Thornblade NA 15 February

Minnesinger

Caladriegan wrote: »

"Wah! I'm outnumbered! It's the only reason I lose!" What it seems you want is for ZOS to fix your problems instead of working at fixing them yourselves.

You getting close but I haven´t really made any propositions to ZOS. Seen here some propositions but how practical they are I am not sure.

Better than ZOS is some of EP reroll a DC or AD toon. That is pure fantasy as you seem to think you should hold on this momentum of power as hard as you can. Obviously, you think you deserve the imbalanced pvp due to the fact you were underpopulated for the first months of the game. But as a reminder big part of EP success is thanks to AD (maybe DC) that rerolled.

If not the new players should not choose EP. Hardly possible if they are Skyrim fanbois.

At the moment, AD/DC work together to level up the things, but you must understand it is not the same as healthy numbers in each faction.

In the end, this just a game and you can´t take this very serious. I only play for fun. So not need to show some hurt feelings.

Roechacca

Perichor wrote: »

Leonidas got zerged

and Leonidas was obviously a good DK

He had 300 . Give DC half that and they'll make Leonidas look like a scrub .

Perichor

but lets all be honest


if EP wants Aleswell/Alessia.... there is no duel for the keep.. there is no paper rock scissors... there are numbers... and EP has lost keeps to sheer numbers just like AD and DC so "EP zergs" could be said for all factions
if only there was a different mechanic for how flags actually flip (maybe if there is even one player of the opposing faction on the flags it cannot flip) idk

DisgracefulMind

Perichor wrote: »

but lets all be honest


if EP wants Aleswell/Alessia.... there is no duel for the keep.. there is no paper rock scissors... there are numbers... and EP has lost keeps to sheer numbers just like AD and DC so "EP zergs" could be said for all factions
if only there was a different mechanic for how flags actually flip (maybe if there is even one player of the opposing faction on the flags it cannot flip) idk

Except DC never has similar numbers to the EP zergs...

Perichor

roechacca wrote: »

Perichor wrote: »

Leonidas got zerged

and Leonidas was obviously a good DK

He had 300 . Give DC half that and they'll make Leonidas look like a scrub .

well to be fair DC pop locks at 200 just like all other factions
and DC has been pop locked before
and that being said i think Leonidas proved harder to beat
but still waiting for Blue Monday
#patient

Minnesinger

Perichor wrote: »

but lets all be honest


if EP wants Aleswell/Alessia.... there is no duel for the keep.. there is no paper rock scissors... there are numbers... and EP has lost keeps to sheer numbers just like AD and DC so "EP zergs" could be said for all factions
if only there was a different mechanic for how flags actually flip (maybe if there is even one player of the opposing faction on the flags it cannot flip) idk

I somehow agree how the game works. In the big picture, failure isn´t a bad thing. I have seen Havoc lose some important fights or make a miracle rescue. To me the best part of playing is that the end result isn´t predictable. In all my sports, I follow teams that do well but they lose when I don´t want it. It is not making me less enthusiastic fan. Same applies to my playing. I love to challenge.

The best fights are the ones that are narrowly won thanks to strategy or pure luck

Perichor

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Perichor wrote: »

but lets all be honest


if EP wants Aleswell/Alessia.... there is no duel for the keep.. there is no paper rock scissors... there are numbers... and EP has lost keeps to sheer numbers just like AD and DC so "EP zergs" could be said for all factions
if only there was a different mechanic for how flags actually flip (maybe if there is even one player of the opposing faction on the flags it cannot flip) idk

Except DC never has similar numbers to the EP zergs...

never is a strong word considering i have seen multiple DC zergs
at chalman day in and day out
(in fact: even if ash is yellow dc wants chalman and arrive in droves)
DC zergs arent as effective most of the time
#bluetuesdaymaybe?

Roechacca

Perichor wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Perichor wrote: »

Leonidas got zerged

and Leonidas was obviously a good DK

He had 300 . Give DC half that and they'll make Leonidas look like a scrub .

well to be fair DC pop locks at 200 just like all other factions
and DC has been pop locked before
and that being said i think Leonidas proved harder to beat
but still waiting for Blue Monday
#patient

Dude . This debate about DC pop locked is over . The dev already posted the system readings . You can make up any facts you want , it doesn't support the evidence .

Perichor

Minnesinger wrote: »

Perichor wrote: »

but lets all be honest


if EP wants Aleswell/Alessia.... there is no duel for the keep.. there is no paper rock scissors... there are numbers... and EP has lost keeps to sheer numbers just like AD and DC so "EP zergs" could be said for all factions
if only there was a different mechanic for how flags actually flip (maybe if there is even one player of the opposing faction on the flags it cannot flip) idk

I somehow agree how the game works. In the big picture, failure isn´t a bad thing. I have seen Havoc lose some important fights or make a miracle rescue. To me the best part of playing is that the end result isn´t predictable. In all my sports, I follow teams that do well but they lose when I don´t want it. It is not making me less enthusiastic fan. Same applies to my playing. I love to challenge.

The best fights are the ones that are narrowly won thanks to strategy or pure luck

yer or make it reallly reallly hardcore and if there is even one member of the opposing faction on the top floor of the inner keep it cannot be flipped

just to make the victory complete in every sense

so the victor can feel better that they wiped THE ENTIRE OPPOSING RAID
and so the loser can feel even worse

i also would be PRO no NPCS in keeps make it 100% player defended

but thats wishful thinking after all ESO is a PVE game LOL

Perichor

roechacca wrote: »

Perichor wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Perichor wrote: »

Leonidas got zerged

and Leonidas was obviously a good DK

He had 300 . Give DC half that and they'll make Leonidas look like a scrub .

well to be fair DC pop locks at 200 just like all other factions
and DC has been pop locked before
and that being said i think Leonidas proved harder to beat
but still waiting for Blue Monday
#patient

Dude . This debate about DC pop locked is over . The dev already posted the system readings . You can make up any facts you want , it doesn't support the evidence .

i saw the charts

still doesnt mean what i said is false

i said DC gets pop locked meaning you look at the alliance war server list and you will see a blue lock indicating the DC population for that specific server is caped

besides the AvA in the game currently is between AD and EP ... DC'S numbers are irrelevant atm

conclusion: my statement is fact

i also said

Leonidas was a DK

conclusion: he has a sword and shield used invasion,low slash, punture, and lava whip so yes Leonidas was a DK

Caladriegan

It's PvP. Get tougher or quit going. You have the ability to fix your problems but won't. EP spends the first 10 days of every campaign with our back against the wall while we fight off both AD and DC. Do we come on here crying about being double-teamed or do we keep fighting? It isn't our fault that you don't keep the pressure on. It isn't our fault that half of your population would rather hide out on a buff server than play on Thornblade. It isn't our fault that you would rather run in a zerg than break up into smaller units to force us into redirecting our forces and make choices about what resources we want to keep. And it isn't our fault that you find complaining about the injustice of PvP more rewarding than trying to do any of those things but. please, continue crying.

Minnesinger

Perichor wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

Perichor wrote: »

but lets all be honest


if EP wants Aleswell/Alessia.... there is no duel for the keep.. there is no paper rock scissors... there are numbers... and EP has lost keeps to sheer numbers just like AD and DC so "EP zergs" could be said for all factions
if only there was a different mechanic for how flags actually flip (maybe if there is even one player of the opposing faction on the flags it cannot flip) idk

I somehow agree how the game works. In the big picture, failure isn´t a bad thing. I have seen Havoc lose some important fights or make a miracle rescue. To me the best part of playing is that the end result isn´t predictable. In all my sports, I follow teams that do well but they lose when I don´t want it. It is not making me less enthusiastic fan. Same applies to my playing. I love to challenge.

The best fights are the ones that are narrowly won thanks to strategy or pure luck

yer or make it reallly reallly hardcore and if there is even one member of the opposing faction on the top floor of the inner keep it cannot be flipped

just to make the victory complete in every sense

so the victor can feel better that they wiped THE ENTIRE OPPOSING RAID
and so the loser can feel even worse

i also would be PRO no NPCS in keeps make it 100% player defended

but thats wishful thinking after all ESO is a PVE game LOL

I somehow thought that each keep is defended by the Guild that claims its ownership. Well a long time ago when the game wasn´t more than a Beta. It would actually be cool to defend your own guild keep and the attacker was obliged to kill every defender. After that they would be able to rob the guild store. Lol Real medieval style of fighting to the end.

I agree it feels stupid to defend a keep and run away from the fight because the flags are taken. Seen this many time. I even go outdoors to tag the last running defenders/attackers to get free ap.

Perichor

Leonidas obviously didn't have his reflective scales up and got hit with a lethal arrow and died shortly after so yes Leonidas was a DK

Minnesinger wrote: »

Perichor wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

Perichor wrote: »

but lets all be honest


if EP wants Aleswell/Alessia.... there is no duel for the keep.. there is no paper rock scissors... there are numbers... and EP has lost keeps to sheer numbers just like AD and DC so "EP zergs" could be said for all factions
if only there was a different mechanic for how flags actually flip (maybe if there is even one player of the opposing faction on the flags it cannot flip) idk

I somehow agree how the game works. In the big picture, failure isn´t a bad thing. I have seen Havoc lose some important fights or make a miracle rescue. To me the best part of playing is that the end result isn´t predictable. In all my sports, I follow teams that do well but they lose when I don´t want it. It is not making me less enthusiastic fan. Same applies to my playing. I love to challenge.

The best fights are the ones that are narrowly won thanks to strategy or pure luck

yer or make it reallly reallly hardcore and if there is even one member of the opposing faction on the top floor of the inner keep it cannot be flipped

just to make the victory complete in every sense

so the victor can feel better that they wiped THE ENTIRE OPPOSING RAID
and so the loser can feel even worse

i also would be PRO no NPCS in keeps make it 100% player defended

but thats wishful thinking after all ESO is a PVE game LOL

I somehow thought that each keep is defended by the Guild that claims its ownership. Well a long time ago when the game wasn´t more than a Beta. It would actually be cool to defend your own guild keep and the attacker was obliged to kill every defender. After that they would be able to rob the guild store. Lol Real medieval style of fighting to the end.

I agree it feels stupid to defend a keep and run away from the fight because the flags are taken. Seen this many time. I even go outdoors to tag the last running defenders/attackers to get free ap.

it would be a very interesting concept to see
but i would put nothing but stinkhorn in the guild bank just for the lawl
in a case where we would loose the keep lol

Minnesinger

Caladriegan wrote: »

It's PvP. Get tougher or quit going. You have the ability to fix your problems but won't. EP spends the first 10 days of every campaign with our back against the wall while we fight off both AD and DC. Do we come on here crying about being double-teamed or do we keep fighting? It isn't our fault that you don't keep the pressure on. It isn't our fault that half of your population would rather hide out on a buff server than play on Thornblade. It isn't our fault that you would rather run in a zerg than break up into smaller units to force us into redirecting our forces and make choices about what resources we want to keep. And it isn't our fault that you find complaining about the injustice of PvP more rewarding than trying to do any of those things but. please, continue crying.

OK

Perichor

@‌Minnesinger

that would be asking for PVP content
and you know ESO devs are against anything content related to PVP lol
in fact

we no longer have deer as content in pvp so there you go

oh how i enjoyed deer......

KBKB

Shocker this thread hasn't been modded to the high heavens yet.

Perichor

KBKB wrote: »

Shocker this thread hasn't been modded to the high heavens yet.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL right

Minnesinger

Perichor wrote: »

@‌Minnesinger

that would be asking for PVP content
and you know ESO devs are against anything content related to PVP lol
in fact

we no longer have deer as content in pvp so there you go

oh how i enjoyed deer......

Yes pvp content is the Imperial City, not sure when. Otherwise the new AVA skills are of interest.

Oh deer the poor fauna of Cyrodiil.

Anyways, good fights to you. Nice to have a not hot headed discussion of pvp. Instead of deers you can always be a trophy in my Kill Counter. Could do with some more kbs.

Perichor

Minnesinger wrote: »

Perichor wrote: »

@‌Minnesinger

that would be asking for PVP content
and you know ESO devs are against anything content related to PVP lol
in fact

we no longer have deer as content in pvp so there you go

oh how i enjoyed deer......

Yes pvp content is the Imperial City, not sure when. Otherwise the new AVA skills are of interest.

Oh deer the poor fauna of Cyrodiil.

Anyways, good fights to you. Nice to have a not hot headed discussion of pvp. Instead of deers you can always be a trophy in my Kill Counter. Could do with some more kbs.

back at ya brotha

have fun

Rylana

Caladriegan wrote: »

"Wah! I'm outnumbered! It's the only reason I lose!"

Wow thats the EP rally cry from six months ago.

RedTalon

Huntler wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

People respond when you call them no-skill baddies. This is why you get EP boasts here. If DC wants to call Pride a bunch of scrubs, Pride will kindly point out how easy they roll DC players.

Drop the trash talking if you don't want to be trash talked.

I honestly have no idea who Pride is.... 0 clue... whatsoever.

And i can't speak spanish

qué lástima

Not really a pity, probbly just doesn't like using google translator

Roechacca

KBKB wrote: »

Shocker this thread hasn't been modded to the high heavens yet.

Why should it be ? I'm glad the moderation has toned down . People should be able to hash thing out without everyone running to the moderators because some feelings got hurt . Nothing posted so far would be moderated on any regular adult forum . It's been tame here . Unless the word crying honestly offends someone that much .

DisgracefulMind

Perichor wrote: »

@‌Minnesinger

that would be asking for PVP content
and you know ESO devs are against anything content related to PVP lol
in fact

we no longer have deer as content in pvp so there you go

oh how i enjoyed deer......

You are incorrect, sir! I have sighted deer before and again recently!!!

Tripwyr

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Perichor wrote: »

@‌Minnesinger

that would be asking for PVP content
and you know ESO devs are against anything content related to PVP lol
in fact

we no longer have deer as content in pvp so there you go

oh how i enjoyed deer......

You are incorrect, sir! I have sighted deer before and again recently!!!

They're actually reindeer, just improperly named. If you watch from a distance sometimes you can catch them flying.

DisgracefulMind

Tripwyr wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Perichor wrote: »

@‌Minnesinger

that would be asking for PVP content
and you know ESO devs are against anything content related to PVP lol
in fact

we no longer have deer as content in pvp so there you go

oh how i enjoyed deer......

You are incorrect, sir! I have sighted deer before and again recently!!!

They're actually reindeer, just improperly named. If you watch from a distance sometimes you can catch them flying.

There is even one to the top left of the screencap! dis conspiracy continues to thrive!

Angavar

All I'm reading from EP in this thread is 'we know we have a numbers advantage but we'd rather sponge from that to win than balance the factions and have a competitive campaign for once.'

As for caladriegan, yes, it is your fault. People get sick of logging in to a red map after nightcaps, and being zerged by double their population in offpeak, or lagged out during prime time. So they move campaigns or stop pvping.

If your faction wasn't so hellbent on being anticompetitive, more people might be interested in playing on thornblade.

Killer808

Rylana wrote: »

Caladriegan wrote: »

"Wah! I'm outnumbered! It's the only reason I lose!"

Wow thats the EP rally cry from six months ago.

And now it is the AD DiEcebelacrity cry...

KBKB

Angavar wrote: »

All I'm reading from EP in this thread is 'we know we have a numbers advantage but we'd rather sponge from that to win than balance the factions and have a competitive campaign for once.'

As for caladriegan, yes, it is your fault. People get sick of logging in to a red map after nightcaps, and being zerged by double their population in offpeak, or lagged out during prime time. So they move campaigns or stop pvping.

If your faction wasn't so hellbent on being anticompetitive, more people might be interested in playing on thornblade.

Beautifully put old sausage.

Caladriegan

Angavar wrote: »

All I'm reading from EP in this thread is 'we know we have a numbers advantage but we'd rather sponge from that to win than balance the factions and have a competitive campaign for once.'

As for caladriegan, yes, it is your fault. People get sick of logging in to a red map after nightcaps, and being zerged by double their population in offpeak, or lagged out during prime time. So they move campaigns or stop pvping.

If your faction wasn't so hellbent on being anticompetitive, more people might be interested in playing on thornblade.

Yep. Too busy complaining to put in the effort. EP logged in to an all yellow server for months. And kept on trying. Too bad you'd rather quit than make the effort.

Tripwyr

Killer808 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Caladriegan wrote: »

"Wah! I'm outnumbered! It's the only reason I lose!"

Wow thats the EP rally cry from six months ago.

And now it is the AD DiEcebelacrity cry...

Just because your guild decided they don't care about their faction doesn't mean every other guild feels the same way.