A Call to Haderus!

WarrioroftheWind_ESO

riverdragon72 wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

This server has potential and it can be whatever we make it so lets make it a good server.

Not as long as the red batswarm/impulse/self regenerating plague has it assimilated. How do you beat 15 invisible *** spamming bat swarmers on a flag?

The same way you beat 30+ healingspringsbatswarmrockshieldbarrierretretreatingmaneuvers.

Copious amounts of oil pots, oil cats, meatbags, caltrops, stormies, negates, banners, novas, ele blockade etc. Learn from your enemies. One of the things we praised the AD natives for was that they learned our tactics and either adopted them themselves or learned to counter.

Cody

riverdragon72 wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

This server has potential and it can be whatever we make it so lets make it a good server.

Not as long as the red batswarm/impulse/self regenerating plague has it assimilated. How do you beat 15 invisible *** spamming bat swarmers on a flag?

now do you see how EP and DC have felt about AD for the past 7+ months?

with the CS coming up, and the gigantic skill re-do ZOS claims they are doing, hopefully things will change. Even if its just a little

riverdragon72

Cody wrote: »

riverdragon72 wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

This server has potential and it can be whatever we make it so lets make it a good server.

Not as long as the red batswarm/impulse/self regenerating plague has it assimilated. How do you beat 15 invisible *** spamming bat swarmers on a flag?

now do you see how EP and DC have felt about AD for the past 7+ months?

with the CS coming up, and the gigantic skill re-do ZOS claims they are doing, hopefully things will change. Even if its just a little

Nothing has changed other than it is EP'S buff server now. So continue patting your back for a job well done EP. You saved Haderus! lol

Galalin

Kinda dissapointed in AD's response to PvP in had. Not all of you but the ones who complainabout being out numbered.... really?

Like @WarrioroftheWind_ESO‌ said we have been exposed to a yellow map for months on end any gains were lost usually withing the hour yet we still kept up the fight.

Having the map change colors back and forth for 2days i don't think warrants anything to complain about.

And if you seriously believe over the last few months you AD have fought us EP with equal numbers... i don't even know what to tell you. And to be clear im talking about when we take something multiple raid groups showing up to reclaim against 10-15 ppl if that not the awesome little fights we have.

I know there are a lot of good solid AD native players on had and i encourage them all to not be discouraged and group back up learn and grow as us EP natives have and keep on truckin. We need you as much as you needed us.

DK Scrub out

Jaerlach

They can't be in two places at once. This guild had been a major force on Thornblade. Of course they have ad pugs for lunch. They're good at what they do.

You can't red be sore about activity on a pvp server. IR is a very strong group with a lot more practice than any guild group you've seen on Haderus, except No Mercy during an emp push. But they aren't on thorn if they are there and they aren't on 24/7. You'll have to learn how to fight them. DC pugs on thorn just started learning and that may be why they are on Haderus. Their ap farm on thorn is slowing.

Galalin

riverdragon72 wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

riverdragon72 wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

This server has potential and it can be whatever we make it so lets make it a good server.

Not as long as the red batswarm/impulse/self regenerating plague has it assimilated. How do you beat 15 invisible *** spamming bat swarmers on a flag?

now do you see how EP and DC have felt about AD for the past 7+ months?

with the CS coming up, and the gigantic skill re-do ZOS claims they are doing, hopefully things will change. Even if its just a little

Nothing has changed other than it is EP'S buff server now. So continue patting your back for a job well done EP. You saved Haderus! lol

EP's buff server? Just a tad premature don't you think... the sky is falling.... the sky is falling.

Eglath

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

Eglath wrote: »

Whoaa guys, hold your horses! First of all I like the fact that pvp has come to Haderus, what I don't like is being zerged to oblivion by EP, and yes we AD zerged you few times, but usually you had bigger numbers then we did (Surprise! Surprise!) And our guild was fighting against more EP then we had, ofc we had pugs and rarely pvers, so I admit that you were getting outnunmered at times but not always.

Conserning Tyndreos, he wasn't gate camper, he was the one saying both in /zone and ts, to leave gates alone and give you some breath. Yes we were fighting at gates, but we refused to camp them.
And honestly he's tired, of constantly defending server against opponents with little help. He barely had any sleep during his emperorship, and even after he got dethroned, so you'd better stop ***-talking about ppl you don't even know.

I might stick to this server but after today tides have turned, I know all EP is happy to zerg the whole map in few hrs, agains like 15 AD at the end. I dearly hope that they will be fair competition between all 3 factions, without bringing Thorn zerg blobs. Campaign with great fights, respect between players, and no zerging others to Oblivion.
But that's just my dream...

Then his problem is he LETS himself get stressed. If things are bad for a day, take a break, do some dungeons, pledges, level an alt. Don't play the game even, go see a movie, go out to dinner (there's various confusion to number/current girlfriend). If he'd allowed us to we coulda posted audio of [snip] conversations how badly he'd get frustrated after a meatgrinder at KC or the gates. He actually did almost quit the game and he's only absent now due to medical reasons.

This server didn't 'become the new Thornblade'. The server is what the players make of it. If AD's PVE guilds want to barge in to recap stuff, let them. We'll fight back just as fiercely as they fought to recap. The biggest problem for EP has been that many of us are subject to needs of daily life. For all you know some of the EP guilds might decide they had their jollies time for something different.

My argument is you need to keep trying. How else will you make any progress?

I think you missed my point, I don't want AD pvers to recap it. All I want is a competitive fights, not getting zerged by Thorn blobs, who quit Haderus 5 min after caping all (yup I saw some reds I thought at Had in Thorn literally 5min after they got our scroll). I enjoy fighting native EP, and I respect them for staying and fighting, but when you are getting wiped in fair fight (like few days ago at brindle when after diying a bit we outsmarted you, and you rage-quit), or can't take keep defended by smaller pug force, than what do you expect?

I'd be more happy to see both AD and EP work towards great pvp experience.

About Tyago, I heard something about what happened to him, I hope he's better now, not that I miss his lethal arrows

[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]

Eglath

Galalin wrote: »

I know there are a lot of good solid AD native players on had and i encourage them all to not be discouraged and group back up learn and grow as us EP natives have and keep on truckin. We need you as much as you needed us.

DK Scrub out

The problem is that you grow in numbers, we lose ppl, ofc I can see many new faces in AD, but not sure for how long they will stay, and most of them is showing when we are already getting kicked. Let's hope more AD pvpers will show up, and stay for longer, so our forces will be equally skilled and numerous.

Telel

Just out of curiosity but have any of the folks Khajiit has been fighting over the last few months even been getting in on the sieges over the last few days?

They've been so busy dodging invisible bat swarms, and synchronized shield rushes they've not been able to pay to much attention to who's murdering them.

It would be a shame for the ones who have been sticking it out to not be enjoying being on the 'winning' side for once.

saintmurray

Ahhhh for the record I'm pretty much the only IR member that's on haderus atm. A few others guest here and there but they still all play over on thornblade.

Galalin

Telel wrote: »

Just out of curiosity but have any of the folks Khajiit has been fighting over the last few months even been getting in on the sieges over the last few days?

They've been so busy dodging invisible bat swarms, and synchronized shield rushes they've not been able to pay to much attention to who's murdering them.

It would be a shame for the ones who have been sticking it out to not be enjoying being on the 'winning' side for once.

Work has got me pinned down for the last 2weeks and prob for about another 2. Price of working 2 careers. So i make it on here and there for an hr or 2 at a time but i can guarantee this sat im going hard. Be warned AD i will bring my flappy flaps of pain to the party hope to see you all there

Your local DK Scrub out

WarrioroftheWind_ESO

AD poplocked, EP at 2 bars, and BRK succumbed to a 100+ zergblob. EP emperor deposed after a stunning record reign of 21 hrs.

What was that you guys were saying about us resorting to calling Thornblade zergblobs?

riverdragon72

Reap what you sew

Galalin

riverdragon72 wrote: »

Reap what you sew

Sticky note attached here lol

Edit: spelling... 5 dam words and i can't get em right

Telel

Telel still thinks someone is hacking their campaign menu and secretly swapping the thornblade's population bar with Haderus's.

It's just so....weird.

WarrioroftheWind_ESO

I have to say very poor form from AD. At least EPHS and Hijinx had some of their members homed on the server and we had 2 bars but for AD to poplock the server over their buffs then turn around and accuse US of zergblobbing is absurd.

But you know what, I imagine the EP will continue taking things. If AD is going to throw such a fit over their buffs then we won't stop. They took the map tonight but not without a fight and by golly we'll keep fighting.

I'm not angry at the action don't get me wrong. Tonight saw some of the craziest action the server had ever seen. But never before have I seen as big a case as why the nature of PVP buffs need to change and AOE dmg needs to be reworked. Anti zerg might work agaisnt a group of 20 or 40. But certainly not 350+ and that is precisely the numbers we found ourselves up against. I wouldn't say Thornblade 2.0 but certainly Thornblade 1.0005.

Zeni keeps arguing that there needs to be incentive. Why not just remove the whole +armor and +crit and + hp and just increase the gold/xp/ap rewards. Make it a nice little bonus and not something that's viewed as a end all be all must have do or die. Same thing with EMP. Less 1 man army and more strong leader.

Also, Ezareth's heir, you just got a big fat target on your butt. I hope you like blinking and getting sniped alot.

Hypertionb14_ESO

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

Thorjagger wrote: »

I'm sad to say I won't be on Haderus anymore. I'm sick of what it's become and don't seem to be needed there anymore,it was fun while it lasted but I'm done with it all. Good luck to those who remain. Maybe someday I'll come back to Haderus. Tyndreos Lacedion V.

"What it's become"? What has it become? A better question is what WAS it before? It was AD's buff server, because AD didn't want competitive PVP on any other server but Thorn, and it was okay for AD to monopolize entire servers in season 1 and 2 of the old campaigns but not for any other factions. Completely disregarding the fact that [snip] had emperor for 2 MONTHS, [snip] after that for 4 weeks, [snip] for 2 weeks,[snip] for 2 weeks.

But when EP takes emp for even an hour or two its all hands on deck. It's "you're forcing us to pvp" or "you're ruining our AA runs and DSA runs". Does AD even stop to consider the consequences of monopolizing the server for so long? Hell members within the AD faction itself argued that there needed to be valid pvp in the server, that other factions needed to be able to take keeps. How else do you get the capture x farm quests and capture x scrolls and kill x players?

Gate camping? EP suffered through that for months on end. If we took a resource we'd see exponentially more players. We'd hold on for a while but it would always turn into a numbers game and we'd get crushed. We could've quit. We could've xfered to another server, or heck even Azura's Star since that was EP's 'buff server' at the time. Alot of EP actually quit the game due to the heavy infestation of bugs in the game, player-based exploits, and disgust at the mechanics required to remain competitive i.e. batmonkeys and blobbing.

So the tables turn and you just up and give up throw in the towel because you can't have things your way 24/7 7 days a week all through the campaign cycle. We didn't, nor should you. Stick it out. Grow a pair. Aspire to be stronger players, stronger people. PVP is reliant upon the ebb and flow of combat. Factions dominate then over extend then are beaten back and the cycle repeats. Some years you get the Steelers and the Broncos and some years you get the Saints and the Bears. The key is persistence and perseverance.

Don't forget so easily how members of AD begged us to help them dethrone someone who they dubbed ******* because they wanted emperor for their own members. So if you can't have emperor than no one can, is that it? Sour grapes, sore winners, and sore losers that's the impression I'm getting.

Go ahead and run to Thornblade or Chillrend or wherever you want, but I'll bet you won't have nearly as much fun as we have digging in for the longhaul despite all the times we'd capture Kingscrest and hold it there for 3 hours before getting overwhelmed by literally 5 to 1 odds.

I've seen a couple of the AD natives still hanging around. [snip], [snip], and [snip]. Keep making things hard for us. Learn from your defeats as well as your victories. You too [snip] you felt you had to gank me while I was looking at the AD leaderboards to see how many natives were still on the server. Don't take your ball and go home. Get mad, get even, and get stronger. That's the spirit of PVP; unceasing combat and riding that rocky bus all over the hills and valleys. That's what competition means.

Like the EP or DC buff servers, Chillrend and Azuras Star are any Different?

Im pretty sure any other factions in those buff servers see nothing but one color all day, and its not yellow generally.

you act like its some big thing that AD has held a server almost purely to themselves, when all factions are guilty of this in full..

you just happened to have chosen a server where you knew one faction dominated the map, and got pissed when it wasnt your own.

you want to target a faction who are currently the most guilty of being crap in PvP, using exploits, stacking, and everything else you can think of? Target EP....

[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]

Telel

To be fair most of us fighting the last few days weren't hoping to lock things up like that.

OTOH after that incident with the invincible scroll runner. A group of ap farmers taking scrolls just to gank newbs, and then folks from other buff servers coming over just for LOLs...ya kind of gotta expect some push back.

Hopefully things will stabilize and the blob squads will go back to thorn, or settle on Azura to talk poopy about each other, and let us friendly murderers get back to ripping each apart in a mature manner.

Galalin

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

Thorjagger wrote: »

I'm sad to say I won't be on Haderus anymore. I'm sick of what it's become and don't seem to be needed there anymore,it was fun while it lasted but I'm done with it all. Good luck to those who remain. Maybe someday I'll come back to Haderus. Tyndreos Lacedion V.

"What it's become"? What has it become? A better question is what WAS it before? It was AD's buff server, because AD didn't want competitive PVP on any other server but Thorn, and it was okay for AD to monopolize entire servers in season 1 and 2 of the old campaigns but not for any other factions. Completely disregarding the fact that Sura had emperor for 2 MONTHS, Ezareth after that for 4 weeks, Pixysticks for 2 weeks, Cuddler for 2 weeks.

But when EP takes emp for even an hour or two its all hands on deck. It's "you're forcing us to pvp" or "you're ruining our AA runs and DSA runs". Does AD even stop to consider the consequences of monopolizing the server for so long? Hell members within the AD faction itself argued that there needed to be valid pvp in the server, that other factions needed to be able to take keeps. How else do you get the capture x farm quests and capture x scrolls and kill x players?

Gate camping? EP suffered through that for months on end. If we took a resource we'd see exponentially more players. We'd hold on for a while but it would always turn into a numbers game and we'd get crushed. We could've quit. We could've xfered to another server, or heck even Azura's Star since that was EP's 'buff server' at the time. Alot of EP actually quit the game due to the heavy infestation of bugs in the game, player-based exploits, and disgust at the mechanics required to remain competitive i.e. batmonkeys and blobbing.

So the tables turn and you just up and give up throw in the towel because you can't have things your way 24/7 7 days a week all through the campaign cycle. We didn't, nor should you. Stick it out. Grow a pair. Aspire to be stronger players, stronger people. PVP is reliant upon the ebb and flow of combat. Factions dominate then over extend then are beaten back and the cycle repeats. Some years you get the Steelers and the Broncos and some years you get the Saints and the Bears. The key is persistence and perseverance.

Don't forget so easily how members of AD begged us to help them dethrone someone who they dubbed ******* because they wanted emperor for their own members. So if you can't have emperor than no one can, is that it? Sour grapes, sore winners, and sore losers that's the impression I'm getting.

Go ahead and run to Thornblade or Chillrend or wherever you want, but I'll bet you won't have nearly as much fun as we have digging in for the longhaul despite all the times we'd capture Kingscrest and hold it there for 3 hours before getting overwhelmed by literally 5 to 1 odds.

I've seen a couple of the AD natives still hanging around. Alurverve, Vinyamar, and Joebaghofdonuts. Keep making things hard for us. Learn from your defeats as well as your victories. You too Stacey you felt you had to gank me while I was looking at the AD leaderboards to see how many natives were still on the server. Don't take your ball and go home. Get mad, get even, and get stronger. That's the spirit of PVP; unceasing combat and riding that rocky bus all over the hills and valleys. That's what competition means.

Like the EP or DC buff servers, Chillrend and Azuras Star are any Different?

Im pretty sure any other factions in those buff servers see nothing but one color all day, and its not yellow generally.

you act like its some big thing that AD has held a server almost purely to themselves, when all factions are guilty of this in full..

you just happened to have chosen a server where you knew one faction dominated the map, and got pissed when it wasnt your own.

you want to target a faction who are currently the most guilty of being crap in PvP, using exploits, stacking, and everything else you can think of? Target EP....

Not a haderus native im guessing ^^^

Psilent

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

Thorjagger wrote: »

I'm sad to say I won't be on Haderus anymore. I'm sick of what it's become and don't seem to be needed there anymore,it was fun while it lasted but I'm done with it all. Good luck to those who remain. Maybe someday I'll come back to Haderus. Tyndreos Lacedion V.

"What it's become"? What has it become? A better question is what WAS it before? It was AD's buff server, because AD didn't want competitive PVP on any other server but Thorn, and it was okay for AD to monopolize entire servers in season 1 and 2 of the old campaigns but not for any other factions. Completely disregarding the fact that Sura had emperor for 2 MONTHS, Ezareth after that for 4 weeks, Pixysticks for 2 weeks, Cuddler for 2 weeks.

But when EP takes emp for even an hour or two its all hands on deck. It's "you're forcing us to pvp" or "you're ruining our AA runs and DSA runs". Does AD even stop to consider the consequences of monopolizing the server for so long? Hell members within the AD faction itself argued that there needed to be valid pvp in the server, that other factions needed to be able to take keeps. How else do you get the capture x farm quests and capture x scrolls and kill x players?

Gate camping? EP suffered through that for months on end. If we took a resource we'd see exponentially more players. We'd hold on for a while but it would always turn into a numbers game and we'd get crushed. We could've quit. We could've xfered to another server, or heck even Azura's Star since that was EP's 'buff server' at the time. Alot of EP actually quit the game due to the heavy infestation of bugs in the game, player-based exploits, and disgust at the mechanics required to remain competitive i.e. batmonkeys and blobbing.

So the tables turn and you just up and give up throw in the towel because you can't have things your way 24/7 7 days a week all through the campaign cycle. We didn't, nor should you. Stick it out. Grow a pair. Aspire to be stronger players, stronger people. PVP is reliant upon the ebb and flow of combat. Factions dominate then over extend then are beaten back and the cycle repeats. Some years you get the Steelers and the Broncos and some years you get the Saints and the Bears. The key is persistence and perseverance.

Don't forget so easily how members of AD begged us to help them dethrone someone who they dubbed ******* because they wanted emperor for their own members. So if you can't have emperor than no one can, is that it? Sour grapes, sore winners, and sore losers that's the impression I'm getting.

Go ahead and run to Thornblade or Chillrend or wherever you want, but I'll bet you won't have nearly as much fun as we have digging in for the longhaul despite all the times we'd capture Kingscrest and hold it there for 3 hours before getting overwhelmed by literally 5 to 1 odds.

I've seen a couple of the AD natives still hanging around. Alurverve, Vinyamar, and Joebaghofdonuts. Keep making things hard for us. Learn from your defeats as well as your victories. You too Stacey you felt you had to gank me while I was looking at the AD leaderboards to see how many natives were still on the server. Don't take your ball and go home. Get mad, get even, and get stronger. That's the spirit of PVP; unceasing combat and riding that rocky bus all over the hills and valleys. That's what competition means.

Like the EP or DC buff servers, Chillrend and Azuras Star are any Different?

Im pretty sure any other factions in those buff servers see nothing but one color all day, and its not yellow generally.

you act like its some big thing that AD has held a server almost purely to themselves, when all factions are guilty of this in full..

you just happened to have chosen a server where you knew one faction dominated the map, and got pissed when it wasnt your own.

you want to target a faction who are currently the most guilty of being crap in PvP, using exploits, stacking, and everything else you can think of? Target EP....

I do not believe in buff servers nor do I condone them. No one deserves a buff server; I don't home on Azura's Star. I will always fight to one day see Haderus become a competitive PvP campaign.

I did enjoy taking the Elder Scroll of Altadoon from the temple this afternoon. I have never seen that scroll get picked up since I came to Haderus a few months ago, maybe it was the first time? I don't know about Sura's reign.

WarrioroftheWind_ESO

Telel wrote: »

To be fair most of us fighting the last few days weren't hoping to lock things up like that.

OTOH after that incident with the invincible scroll runner. A group of ap farmers taking scrolls just to gank newbs, and then folks from other buff servers coming over just for LOLs...ya kind of gotta expect some push back.

Hopefully things will stabilize and the blob squads will go back to thorn, or settle on Azura to talk poopy about each other, and let us friendly murderers get back to ripping each apart in a mature manner.

If you're talking about the DC's nabbing of their scrolls, you notice how they were conspicuously absent from tonight's mayhem. All the AP to be had kind of strange they didn't even go after the ring...

But this is part of the argument alot of us have been railing about for weeks if not months: there should BE no buff servers. You have people complaining unceasingly how bad lag is in Thornblade and it took reducing the pop cap to get people to try fighting elsewhere. And when they do you have those who want the buffs all the time making a fuss about it. Populations need to spread out more. If they refuse to, then we'll keep doing our thing. If AD want the buffs, they gonna fight for them like they supposed to.

but was happy to see some of the natives rolling along with the sieges. Told you you guys needed to just persist.

Telel

If Telel's many (and incredibly closesly spaced) deaths has taught them anything it is persistence. Incidentally today's persistence comes out to 14 hours on and off.

Well that, and to not flail so wildly that they fall out of their chair after they are yet again stunlocked and unable to do their happy dodge dance for just a few seconds longer. >:

Oh also hydration and stretching. Both key factors especially due to my issue with muscle spasms.

Asgari

Who cares about the scoreboard its all about that AP gain!

PenguinInACan

Everybody is complaining about map flips on had and we've flipped Azuras twice in as many days. We get our fair share of angry whispers. Apparently AD is just louder and more active on the forums than EP. Server pop in imbalance is not a new thing.

Psilent

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Who cares about the scoreboard its all about that AP gain!

Ariana, if only you were there; you would have had enough material to make your next video, plus huge amounts of AP.

AD doesn't like it when you take away their buffs!

Rylana

Situps, pushups, and plenty of juice.

Asgari

Psilent wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Who cares about the scoreboard its all about that AP gain!

Ariana, if only you were there; you would have had enough material to make your next video, plus huge amounts of AP.

AD doesn't like it when you take away their buffs!

I missed out on a lot the past day. Made a Templar as I'm missing that class and finished grinding my stam blade to v14 and made it magicka.

I'll be on much more this weekend. Gunna go keep to keep soloing resources and cutting port to troll AD. Should be fun!

yodased

I actually had fun in PvP last night. Wasn't too bad for my first foray into the dark side.

Not sure what I was doing, but good times all around. You will be seeing more of me in the coming days though, caltrops seems amazing.

diskiukas

It was frustrating early in the day being farmed by EP, it was fun later in the evening when I had record of kills and deaths ratio. You lose some , you win some and I am OK with it.

Radolfus

Cody wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

Thorjagger wrote: »

I'm sad to say I won't be on Haderus anymore. I'm sick of what it's become and don't seem to be needed there anymore,it was fun while it lasted but I'm done with it all. Good luck to those who remain. Maybe someday I'll come back to Haderus. Tyndreos Lacedion V.

"What it's become"? What has it become? A better question is what WAS it before? It was AD's buff server, because AD didn't want competitive PVP on any other server but Thorn, and it was okay for AD to monopolize entire servers in season 1 and 2 of the old campaigns but not for any other factions. Completely disregarding the fact that Sura had emperor for 2 MONTHS, Ezareth after that for 4 weeks, Pixysticks for 2 weeks, Cuddler for 2 weeks.

But when EP takes emp for even an hour or two its all hands on deck. It's "you're forcing us to pvp" or "you're ruining our AA runs and DSA runs". Does AD even stop to consider the consequences of monopolizing the server for so long? Hell members within the AD faction itself argued that there needed to be valid pvp in the server, that other factions needed to be able to take keeps. How else do you get the capture x farm quests and capture x scrolls and kill x players?

Gate camping? EP suffered through that for months on end. If we took a resource we'd see exponentially more players. We'd hold on for a while but it would always turn into a numbers game and we'd get crushed. We could've quit. We could've xfered to another server, or heck even Azura's Star since that was EP's 'buff server' at the time. Alot of EP actually quit the game due to the heavy infestation of bugs in the game, player-based exploits, and disgust at the mechanics required to remain competitive i.e. batmonkeys and blobbing.

So the tables turn and you just up and give up throw in the towel because you can't have things your way 24/7 7 days a week all through the campaign cycle. We didn't, nor should you. Stick it out. Grow a pair. Aspire to be stronger players, stronger people. PVP is reliant upon the ebb and flow of combat. Factions dominate then over extend then are beaten back and the cycle repeats. Some years you get the Steelers and the Broncos and some years you get the Saints and the Bears. The key is persistence and perseverance.

Don't forget so easily how members of AD begged us to help them dethrone someone who they dubbed ******* because they wanted emperor for their own members. So if you can't have emperor than no one can, is that it? Sour grapes, sore winners, and sore losers that's the impression I'm getting.

Go ahead and run to Thornblade or Chillrend or wherever you want, but I'll bet you won't have nearly as much fun as we have digging in for the longhaul despite all the times we'd capture Kingscrest and hold it there for 3 hours before getting overwhelmed by literally 5 to 1 odds.

I've seen a couple of the AD natives still hanging around. Alurverve, Vinyamar, and Joebaghofdonuts. Keep making things hard for us. Learn from your defeats as well as your victories. You too Stacey you felt you had to gank me while I was looking at the AD leaderboards to see how many natives were still on the server. Don't take your ball and go home. Get mad, get even, and get stronger. That's the spirit of PVP; unceasing combat and riding that rocky bus all over the hills and valleys. That's what competition means.

[snip] is not that bad.... she(he?) can spam flying blade like a pro!:D

in all seriousness, not all the AD in haderus were pathetic gate camping [snip] like [snip] and all the other ones involved(and yes, my post to [snip] was sarcastic, i shead no tears at his departure, and hope he never returns) some of them are actually fun to do battle with.

It is a nice change to see everything not be yellow, and to see that EP and DC actually has stuff now. Hopefully Haderus becomes a competitive PvP server and does not turn into a buff server ever again.

To all the AD gate campers: If y'all want to leave, then leave. Just go, leave and never return. You people have put EP and DC through absolute hell the last 2-4 months, camping our gates as soon as we as so much took a lumber mill, having to have a gigantic impulse blob just to take a keep when you outnumbered your enemies 5-1, and many other dispicable acts. Maybe being forced into one of the other three buff servers(i consider thronblade a buff server due to EPs' actions) will show you people how we have felt for months on end.

Maybe, if y'all do return, you will actually fight instead of running to your huge lag blobs to do the fighting for you.

Agree with what u said bro but... I haven't seen u on Thornblade (ever) so please don't talk on OUR behalf to other guys

--(the EP peeps who won it)

[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]