ALL buff servers should be liberated. They are abominations and a disgrace on PvP.It was nice seeing lacideon again even though he said he did not like what haderus became... he was right along side the impulse blobbers....
sigh.
You want to talk about how AD goes to 2 bars? Perhaps that because 30+ep shows up and we know what will happen. Then what happens? EP gets 3 bars in Haderus while we also fight one bar of DC....now let's do the math...thats 4 bars against 2 AD bars, AD never reached 3 bars....and you want to talk about being outnumbered? What a damn joke. As for Lacedion, of course he was there fighting. Alurvelve is in OUR guild and we back and fight for our emps. You want to talk about buff servers...for those NOT homed in Haderus, what happens when AD messes with Azuras? huh? anyone? thats right, zergball mania. EP talks a lot of crap but when will they actually fight DC? Never. Because all EP knows how to do is purple. As for the native Haderus EP, it was fun to fight you again. Vjori, looking forward to it and Galalin...sounds like christmas will be interesting
And lets be honest, AD has no room to play the victim card on Haderus. AD has constantly camped EPs(and DCs) gates. As soon as we would take farragut lumber mill, AD groups 4 times our size would show up and camp us back to our literal spawn points. even the freaking emperor would show up:( Most of the AD of Haderus are selfish people, ruining the game for others over PvE buffs, and have no right to complian when EP or DC makes pushes and actually defeats AD and acquires scrolls and keeps.
I honestly don't know why you and every other AD person making such a big fuss are doing so to begin with. You people will simply wait until DC and EP go to sleep and cap everything back anyway, so stop complaining.
Thorjagger wrote: »I may have camped your gates a few times,but if I had any say I would let you take resource. Half the time I wasen't even on the front line fighting you guys at a bloody resource. I still had to get my points to stay on top.
As for you guys zerging us or should I say outnumbering us bothering me,that's not the part that bothers me,I don't mind the fact that it's a competitive server,I don't like the fact AD on this server is so divided that it's unreal. They're completely disorganized as a whole.
I'm also not playing the victim here. Truthfully I understand why EP wants to bully us,you guys feel bullied by the rest of AD who camped your gates. So you should.
Also if I had my way at any of those resources it would've been evenly matched every time.
DC and EP can say we camped their gates but let us bring some real insight into this. AD PUGS camped your gates. The IV Legion was one of the only guilds that fought and defended haderus before all this crap went down. I know what goes on in our TS and what was said time and again was "stay away from the gates. let them come out. let them do something." we never wanted to camp gates. if and when it happened, was because we had emp and had to out ap the ad farmers. ask the native ep in had, we stayed away for days and we fell on the leaderboards and we could no longer stay away. As a rule though, our guild does not gate camp. I get why EP wants to complain but don't act like the same isn't done to us. In azuras, they *tried* to farm us at the gates...our gates...so it makes them no different. On had, all of our keeps are taken instead of DC and EP fighting each other. That is utter crap. Ty makes great points in this post.
Thorjagger wrote: »It never was,I was never there to see if I could set a record on "How fast can you wipe a defended resource" kinda thing. It was me being a player,I couldn't sit out of the fights or I'd fall and let an AD AP farmer come and sit on the title and never do a thing to defend it or lead.
Look I apologize if you felt that way,but the fact of the matter is,I had to.
Thorjagger wrote: »I may have camped your gates a few times,but if I had any say I would let you take resource. Half the time I wasen't even on the front line fighting you guys at a bloody resource. I still had to get my points to stay on top.
As for you guys zerging us or should I say outnumbering us bothering me,that's not the part that bothers me,I don't mind the fact that it's a competitive server,I don't like the fact AD on this server is so divided that it's unreal. They're completely disorganized as a whole.
I'm also not playing the victim here. Truthfully I understand why EP wants to bully us,you guys feel bullied by the rest of AD who camped your gates. So you should.
Also if I had my way at any of those resources it would've been evenly matched every time.
DC and EP can say we camped their gates but let us bring some real insight into this. AD PUGS camped your gates. The IV Legion was one of the only guilds that fought and defended haderus before all this crap went down. I know what goes on in our TS and what was said time and again was "stay away from the gates. let them come out. let them do something." we never wanted to camp gates. if and when it happened, was because we had emp and had to out ap the ad farmers. ask the native ep in had, we stayed away for days and we fell on the leaderboards and we could no longer stay away. As a rule though, our guild does not gate camp. I get why EP wants to complain but don't act like the same isn't done to us. In azuras, they *tried* to farm us at the gates...our gates...so it makes them no different. On had, all of our keeps are taken instead of DC and EP fighting each other. That is utter crap. Ty makes great points in this post.
Princess_Asgari wrote: »Why are AD such babies? It's a pvp server, not a buff server. QQ less and pvp with the big boys. There is more to this game than fighting AI all day long.
Princess_Asgari wrote: »Why are AD such babies? It's a pvp server, not a buff server. QQ less and pvp with the big boys. There is more to this game than fighting AI all day long.
I honestly dont know. After your group got pushed off of Roe and my group of 6 met your respawning group at Nikel (to my chagrin), it became completely obvious the only organized group left on the campaign was our tiny one and a somewhat larger force pinned down at Alessia.
When we fell back to Roe after Alessia went down (for the final stand for the emp), we barely got back inside the keep in time to just die anyway.
There was a LOT of zone chat arguing over what to do. Me and the other guys I was with just sorta went off to do our own thing, run some kinda interference between spawns, cause we didnt have enough to even be a force.
Red zerg tonight was real, and yellow was completely disorganized, spread out, trying to defend way too many things, and basically embarassed ourselves.
Btw did you like my oil pot I set out by the well south of nikel when you guys were riding down to fare.
I don't pretend to understand the relationships you guys have built over the last year, nor do I really want to, but I was actually at the fare gates last night which you call gate camping I guess.
Remember, I am a complete ESO pvp noobtasticlly fantastic suckathon, so go easy on me.
I think I may be the reason that happened lol.
There was nothing going on and someone said people were at the fare lumbermill, so I went there. We killed a couple of guys then I got roflstomped by a dude name VortexMan11. It was enlightening to see how fast someone who knows what they are doing can melt you from the shadows, so if you are reading this, kudos man that was cool.
Anyway, I spawned and horsed back. There were more AD and they chased them back to the area between the gate and fare.
This is where 12-15 of AD and I would think about 8-12 maybe 15 EP smacked each other for about 45 minutes.
IT WAS AMAZING. lol. soooo much fun.
so I'm sorry if I did something 'wrong', I'm not really up on the Etiquette of PvP. I did make sure that once we killed everyone that we didn't just sit at the gate though, we let them come of the gate and fought them in the open field.
I don't pretend to understand the relationships you guys have built over the last year, nor do I really want to, but I was actually at the fare gates last night which you call gate camping I guess.
Remember, I am a complete ESO pvp noobtasticlly fantastic suckathon, so go easy on me.
I think I may be the reason that happened lol.
There was nothing going on and someone said people were at the fare lumbermill, so I went there. We killed a couple of guys then I got roflstomped by a dude name VortexMan11. It was enlightening to see how fast someone who knows what they are doing can melt you from the shadows, so if you are reading this, kudos man that was cool.
Anyway, I spawned and horsed back. There were more AD and they chased them back to the area between the gate and fare.
This is where 12-15 of AD and I would think about 8-12 maybe 15 EP smacked each other for about 45 minutes.
IT WAS AMAZING. lol. soooo much fun.
so I'm sorry if I did something 'wrong', I'm not really up on the Etiquette of PvP. I did make sure that once we killed everyone that we didn't just sit at the gate though, we let them come of the gate and fought them in the open field.
The main issue with it, comes from last month when EP pretty much quit the campaign for several weeks. Theyve always had a fairly sizeable coordinated group of 15-20 guys, but after a while of being zergbombed into oblivion by 40+ AD every time they so much as sneezed on anything (literally, every single keep, resource, outpost was yellow 100% of the time, or else) they just got fed up and quit.
So a good lot of AD actually just stopped coming to Haderus for a while, myself included. In fact during this time period I was playing my EP toon regularly, just to try to give them one more body on the field.
Then some more red guilds showed up, but you never know with transitionals whether its a one time/on cycle thing or if they plan to actually stay.
My main concern was the transient red guilds that had been coming over the last week or two were done here, and all AD was going to do yesterday was crush to nothing what little fight there was.
They did get Farragut, but we completely shut them down at Arrius until their Thornblade guesters showed up and steamrolled the map (something that was not guaranteed to happen, and shouldnt be assumed)
Its all well and good to have a good fight, but history here has taught us that the more we push red back, the more likely they are to just give up (and rightfully so, ive felt the same way on Chillrend fighting the blue emp group there) and call it a day, which ends PvP for everyone.
PenguinInACan wrote: »I don't pretend to understand the relationships you guys have built over the last year, nor do I really want to, but I was actually at the fare gates last night which you call gate camping I guess.
Remember, I am a complete ESO pvp noobtasticlly fantastic suckathon, so go easy on me.
I think I may be the reason that happened lol.
There was nothing going on and someone said people were at the fare lumbermill, so I went there. We killed a couple of guys then I got roflstomped by a dude name VortexMan11. It was enlightening to see how fast someone who knows what they are doing can melt you from the shadows, so if you are reading this, kudos man that was cool.
Anyway, I spawned and horsed back. There were more AD and they chased them back to the area between the gate and fare.
This is where 12-15 of AD and I would think about 8-12 maybe 15 EP smacked each other for about 45 minutes.
IT WAS AMAZING. lol. soooo much fun.
so I'm sorry if I did something 'wrong', I'm not really up on the Etiquette of PvP. I did make sure that once we killed everyone that we didn't just sit at the gate though, we let them come of the gate and fought them in the open field.
The main issue with it, comes from last month when EP pretty much quit the campaign for several weeks. Theyve always had a fairly sizeable coordinated group of 15-20 guys, but after a while of being zergbombed into oblivion by 40+ AD every time they so much as sneezed on anything (literally, every single keep, resource, outpost was yellow 100% of the time, or else) they just got fed up and quit.
So a good lot of AD actually just stopped coming to Haderus for a while, myself included. In fact during this time period I was playing my EP toon regularly, just to try to give them one more body on the field.
Then some more red guilds showed up, but you never know with transitionals whether its a one time/on cycle thing or if they plan to actually stay.
My main concern was the transient red guilds that had been coming over the last week or two were done here, and all AD was going to do yesterday was crush to nothing what little fight there was.
They did get Farragut, but we completely shut them down at Arrius until their Thornblade guesters showed up and steamrolled the map (something that was not guaranteed to happen, and shouldnt be assumed)
Its all well and good to have a good fight, but history here has taught us that the more we push red back, the more likely they are to just give up (and rightfully so, ive felt the same way on Chillrend fighting the blue emp group there) and call it a day, which ends PvP for everyone.
This happens on every "buff" server. If DC had the numbers that EP have right now and came onto Azuras, EP would be wondering why they are getting focused so hard all of a sudden.
I've gotten pushed to the gates on Chillrend and Azuras. It happens. Like you said, go away until its not buff server PvP or find a new home.
The had AD need to learn that they won't get better overwhelming anybody that shows interest on the server. You get better being the one outnumbered.
We need regular blues, not fixate's stacked crew from time to time. Blues who are going to fight reds, since I see a purple tendency lately in most servers.
And you want to know why some ppl (including me) don't like had? It's not because of blues, It's not because of reds, since zergs spend less time in there Had is more pleasant. I don't like it because of AD. Yes I'm gonna complain about my own faction, during most of the time there is about 4-5 ppl who actually know what is going on around them. How can one play with ppl who can't take undefended keep in group of 15, because they are wiping on guards... I get it that there are new players and they need to be educated, but all of them... So really if you are getting owned by equal amount of pvers I have bad news for you.
I saw you guys there the 2 times I tried Azura's cause everything was dead or locked out. You guys must have made a killing. Did you guys see us raming the inner postern?Thorjagger wrote: »
I've been on Azura's star and as soon as we touched a scroll we were literally out numbered from 9 of us against 35 of them at Aleswell. EP PvE players with ranks as high as Veteran. No further. Aside from the local PvPer's fighting to get their buffs back, right now,Azura's star stands red and giving buffs to the PvEr's out there doing what they do.
I saw you guys there the 2 times I tried Azura's cause everything was dead or locked out. You guys must have made a killing. Did you guys see us raming the inner postern?Thorjagger wrote: »
I've been on Azura's star and as soon as we touched a scroll we were literally out numbered from 9 of us against 35 of them at Aleswell. EP PvE players with ranks as high as Veteran. No further. Aside from the local PvPer's fighting to get their buffs back, right now,Azura's star stands red and giving buffs to the PvEr's out there doing what they do.
That day I think there were 20 people in the group and only 7 willing to get in TS. You tell people "everyone needs to have 2 stone ballistas. If you can't afford it tell me and I will buy you one". One guy asks for them, head to keep, fire ballistas everywhere (even from the people you gave stone too) and people who don't have any siege. And of course the ram at the side door blocking ballista real estate. When we wipe they complain about AD picking on their buff server.
Soon as you guys pushed us while we outnumbered you, stealthed up at chalman mine, the TS filled up with QQ in the middle of the fight, "how are they wiping us" "run" "freaking pvpers". I lost it in TS and started raging. "Shut up! and fight!, it's not over yet!" I quit an hour later before I really lost it in TS. The pvper that was leading that had the patience of a saint.