A Call to Haderus!

mg_78b16_ESO

I have moved my Guild to Chillrend... because wo do NOT Dominate the Campaign. The Smurfs have zero tollerance politics there. They will come in huge numbers even to take back a little resource. I guess they are pretty bored.
Anyway the do a good job and there are quite a few player who got better and better fighting with us. So come to Chillrend and stay there for good to have some good fights

Xexpo

mg_78b16_ESO wrote: »

I have moved my Guild to Chillrend... because wo do NOT Dominate the Campaign. The Smurfs have zero tollerance politics there. They will come in huge numbers even to take back a little resource. I guess they are pretty bored.
Anyway the do a good job and there are quite a few player who got better and better fighting with us. So come to Chillrend and stay there for good to have some good fights

sweet! 's for all!

Ithilwenn

Telel wrote: »

Telel wonders how many times they could dodge roll if they were Emperor Batkhajiit the 1st.

Telel, my friend, as a NB stam empress I can assure you that one can dodge almost endlessly! I think you would make the greatest dodging batkhajiit emperor

Ithilwenn

SafiyerAmitora wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Subtomik wrote: »

Lowering the pop locks just means EP can simultaneously overrun like 3 campaigns at once lol.

It was like had 3 bars, thorn locked, azuras 2 lol

All hail your new red overlords?

Yaaaaay to us for being the new zergball.

What the heck happened to AD's huuuuuge population it used to have? One guild of 12 dudes moving does not change that.

You forgot to mention us dudettes.

And I'm not leaving Had. While I'm still gonna stick with Ty, Ithil, and company, I'll be PvPing on Had. Just not as much though since, seeing as I now have more free time without being called to Had the moment I enter TS (Ithil, don't kill me, pweese! ), I'll be spending more time leveling my v5 and perfecting my build dueling with Legend.

While I am no longer homed in Haderus, I will also not abandon it. Due to many unsavory tactics that have been happening lately, I refuse be homed there but I will support my guild mates who are. So Vjori, my friend, you will lose that bet! And ellie my dear, it is nice not to have to panic when I enter ts everytime as well so I wish you all the fun in the world as you level your bad*** DK and become an impressive dueler

FluffiestOne

Ithilwenn wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

Telel wonders how many times they could dodge roll if they were Emperor Batkhajiit the 1st.

Telel, my friend, as a NB stam empress I can assure you that one can dodge almost endlessly! I think you would make the greatest dodging batkhajiit emperor

LOL YOUR GIVING ADVICE? You dropped like a fly. My codex looks so much better when your emperor. 20 kills just on you while your emp. MUAHHAAHA

Asgari

Subtomik wrote: »

Darklord_Tiberius wrote: »

We squished fixate and his group again at Alswell. He talks a lot in the forums about how great they are, which makes us laugh in PR, but at least they are on Haderus playing. Need the AD population to actually come out and PvP, not just zerg the map with a locked pop until they control it all again. Soon enough they wont be able to zerg the map even with a locked pop

PR runs with a pretty big group, me bbq and ariani had to come for that sweet sweet booty a few times but still hit yall with the /honor


as for the scrolls, LOL, we went for them with 11 people, and proceeded to get worked over .

I missed out on the scroll action. I was solo defending glade as you guys went for it. The archer brigade decided to hide in the shadows and clear all 3 resources of guards that way.

They did however get to feel my sweet nibbly bites of bats multiple times..


[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]

SafiyerAmitora

Ithilwenn wrote: »

While I am no longer homed in Haderus, I will also not abandon it. Due to many unsavory tactics that have been happening lately, I refuse be homed there but I will support my guild mates who are. So Vjori, my friend, you will lose that bet! And ellie my dear, it is nice not to have to panic when I enter ts everytime as well so I wish you all the fun in the world as you level your bad*** DK and become an impressive dueler

Why thank you. ;D Time to kick some v14 butt and maybe or maybe not die in the process. lol

I aspire to one day be as good as Sypher. Gotta duels him moar! Must... Beat... My 3min... Record... Against him...

Ithilwenn

FluffiestOne wrote: »

Ithilwenn wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

Telel wonders how many times they could dodge roll if they were Emperor Batkhajiit the 1st.

Telel, my friend, as a NB stam empress I can assure you that one can dodge almost endlessly! I think you would make the greatest dodging batkhajiit emperor

LOL YOUR GIVING ADVICE? You dropped like a fly. My codex looks so much better when your emperor. 20 kills just on you while your emp. MUAHHAAHA

I was wondering when your troll self would make an appearance. Note: I mentioned dodging, not fighting. My codex looks amazing as you fall to my arrows. So continue to run at me just so you can fall as you flap your wings at me and continue to get face rolled like you did the other night in Haderus...LOL

FluffiestOne

Ithilwenn wrote: »

FluffiestOne wrote: »

Ithilwenn wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

Telel wonders how many times they could dodge roll if they were Emperor Batkhajiit the 1st.

Telel, my friend, as a NB stam empress I can assure you that one can dodge almost endlessly! I think you would make the greatest dodging batkhajiit emperor

LOL YOUR GIVING ADVICE? You dropped like a fly. My codex looks so much better when your emperor. 20 kills just on you while your emp. MUAHHAAHA

I was wondering when your troll self would make an appearance. Note: I mentioned dodging, not fighting. My codex looks amazing as you fall to my arrows. So continue to run at me just so you can fall as you flap your wings at me and continue to get face rolled like you did the other night in Haderus...LOL

? You had 4 bars. We had 20 people. I don't think AD realize game mechanics, there's a point where it is mathematically impossible to live.

saintmurray

So lemme get this straight, EP brings over a guild or 2 to help out our comrads on haderus and AD roll over and give up?? I mean DC get it handed to them all the time but they keep fighting....

FluffiestOne

saintmurray wrote: »

So lemme get this straight, EP brings over a guild or 2 to help out our comrads on haderus and AD roll over and give up?? I mean DC get it handed to them all the time but they keep fighting....

Telel

saintmurray wrote: »

So lemme get this straight, EP brings over a guild or 2 to help out our comrads on haderus and AD roll over and give up?? I mean DC get it handed to them all the time but they keep fighting....

When did Telel say they gave up?

As the fixed one can attest this one may be many things. A coward, bad at killing people in a fair fight, bad at killing people who are paying attention, quite fond of fleeing at the first sign of trouble, and very very prone to charging a premium for potions, but they are not a quitter. Also quite charming in conversations that don't begin with 'haha I KILT joo stoodpd kat'.

Which is probably why us proud servants of Queen Razum-Dar have been holding our own today and even pushing back a bit when we can get the illiterates to place siege down. 1 bar of pop all day and we've managed to face off against both other factions fairly well despite our less skilled player handicap.

Meanwhile the poor native reds have seemingly been abandoned by their oh so skilled hordes of blobberts, but have still been giving quite the show despite it all.

Though without the fixed one's crew arriving the reds might have been pushed back to their gate keeps as we have just a couple more folks than they do, and our emperor was on.

Cody

I killed Telel today:D

my next target is the pathetic false king known as fixate. His block and casting ways cannot save him forever

FluffiestOne

Cody wrote: »

I killed Telel today:D

my next target is the pathetic false king known as fixate. His block and casting ways cannot save him forever

come kill me, ill let you

Telel

Cody wrote: »

I killed Telel today:D

This is like bragging that you have tasted a slice of bread. A particularly common, and cheap, slice of bread.

Still this one is glad they could amuse you with their horrific yodeling as they futilely tried to dodge roll behind a wall of helpful elves. They will consider it payment for all the people they sniped off of keep overhangs, and manning siege weapons today.

Cody

FluffiestOne wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

I killed Telel today:D

my next target is the pathetic false king known as fixate. His block and casting ways cannot save him forever

come kill me, ill let you

now whats the fun in that? you must fight!!!

Psilent

FluffiestOne wrote: »

Ithilwenn wrote: »

FluffiestOne wrote: »

Ithilwenn wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

Telel wonders how many times they could dodge roll if they were Emperor Batkhajiit the 1st.

Telel, my friend, as a NB stam empress I can assure you that one can dodge almost endlessly! I think you would make the greatest dodging batkhajiit emperor

LOL YOUR GIVING ADVICE? You dropped like a fly. My codex looks so much better when your emperor. 20 kills just on you while your emp. MUAHHAAHA

I was wondering when your troll self would make an appearance. Note: I mentioned dodging, not fighting. My codex looks amazing as you fall to my arrows. So continue to run at me just so you can fall as you flap your wings at me and continue to get face rolled like you did the other night in Haderus...LOL

? You had 4 bars. We had 20 people. I don't think AD realize game mechanics, there's a point where it is mathematically impossible to live.

Best. Quote. Ever.

Like today, EP takes two keeps, AD goes to 2 bars.

Cody

Psilent wrote: »

FluffiestOne wrote: »

Ithilwenn wrote: »

FluffiestOne wrote: »

Ithilwenn wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

Telel wonders how many times they could dodge roll if they were Emperor Batkhajiit the 1st.

Telel, my friend, as a NB stam empress I can assure you that one can dodge almost endlessly! I think you would make the greatest dodging batkhajiit emperor

LOL YOUR GIVING ADVICE? You dropped like a fly. My codex looks so much better when your emperor. 20 kills just on you while your emp. MUAHHAAHA

I was wondering when your troll self would make an appearance. Note: I mentioned dodging, not fighting. My codex looks amazing as you fall to my arrows. So continue to run at me just so you can fall as you flap your wings at me and continue to get face rolled like you did the other night in Haderus...LOL

? You had 4 bars. We had 20 people. I don't think AD realize game mechanics, there's a point where it is mathematically impossible to live.

Best. Quote. Ever.

Like today, EP takes two keeps, AD goes to 2 bars.

I thought it was funny the AD had to call in reinforcements to take on people they outnumbered to begin with... yet they come onto this thread talking smack to everyone else....

I will never understand the mindset of those people. Heck the guy that whispered one of ours and talked crap to her, i killed him in a 1v1 only 20 minutes before!! yet he still had the nerve to act all high and mighty as he called in the brigade on us......

some of the AD on had disgust me:( not all, but some

Cody

It was nice seeing lacideon again even though he said he did not like what haderus became... he was right along side the impulse blobbers....

sigh.

Psilent

Haderus exploded tonight! Most fun I've had in a long time; EP will prevail! Under crushing opposition, we will pull through and finally at long last remove one of those abominable buff campaigns.

For the Pact!

Galalin

3 days off at Christmas... my cyrodill decorating plans are as follows.

Mix some yellow and blue's together for green. Then paint em both red.

My simple holiday recipe for EP fun.

Enjoy!

Your local DK scrub out

Ithilwenn

Cody wrote: »

It was nice seeing lacideon again even though he said he did not like what haderus became... he was right along side the impulse blobbers....

sigh.

You want to talk about how AD goes to 2 bars? Perhaps that because 30+ep shows up and we know what will happen. Then what happens? EP gets 3 bars in Haderus while we also fight one bar of DC....now let's do the math...thats 4 bars against 2 AD bars, AD never reached 3 bars....and you want to talk about being outnumbered? What a damn joke. As for Lacedion, of course he was there fighting. Alurvelve is in OUR guild and we back and fight for our emps. You want to talk about buff servers...for those NOT homed in Haderus, what happens when AD messes with Azuras? huh? anyone? thats right, zergball mania. EP talks a lot of crap but when will they actually fight DC? Never. Because all EP knows how to do is purple. As for the native Haderus EP, it was fun to fight you again. Vjori, looking forward to it and Galalin...sounds like christmas will be interesting

Thorjagger

I was there to defend a (Or atleast attempt) a guildies Emperor title. Any time I come over I'm only doing PvE quests because of transit lines. Besides,what does it matter if I leave and home elsewhere and never come back? It doesn't. I'm not the heart and soul of the Aldmeri Dominion. What Ithil says is true,while AD is sitting at two bars,EP jumps to three and continue to zergball us instead of pushing the weaker DC force that was there. I've been on Haderus from the start and what it was,was small scale PvP where you had to use tactics to fight one another,not zerg/batswarm/impulse spam. That's what Haderus was,if they took a keep they took a keep and we had fun at it,EP and AD. What it is now is a shadow of it's former self and will never be the same.

Jaerlach

Ithilwenn wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

It was nice seeing lacideon again even though he said he did not like what haderus became... he was right along side the impulse blobbers....

sigh.

You want to talk about how AD goes to 2 bars? Perhaps that because 30+ep shows up and we know what will happen. Then what happens? EP gets 3 bars in Haderus while we also fight one bar of DC....now let's do the math...thats 4 bars against 2 AD bars, AD never reached 3 bars....and you want to talk about being outnumbered? What a damn joke. As for Lacedion, of course he was there fighting. Alurvelve is in OUR guild and we back and fight for our emps. You want to talk about buff servers...for those NOT homed in Haderus, what happens when AD messes with Azuras? huh? anyone? thats right, zergball mania. EP talks a lot of crap but when will they actually fight DC? Never. Because all EP knows how to do is purple. As for the native Haderus EP, it was fun to fight you again. Vjori, looking forward to it and Galalin...sounds like christmas will be interesting

Every time I have done something more meaningful than farm a resouce on Haderus, we have definitely fought active EP. Hijinx messed up the emp push for Treassach a couple weeks ago, and we've fought no shortage of the IR/PR visitors when we were doing other things.

Its a buff server, of course you're the main target. Do you think EP and AD fight each other on Chillrend? Of course not, they're outnumbered 5:1.

Not all bars are created equal, especially 1 bar - acting like 1 bar of DC is 1/3 the people of 3 bars of someone else is silly - ususally that 1 bar of DC is 25 or less people, a 3/4 full raid of one guild and maybe 10 other people somewhere else.

Outside these recent massive EP invasions, its silly to act like you do anything but outnumber your opponents 2:1 or 3:1. Again, thats what happens on a buff server, and its exactly WHY people come to fight you - lots of people to kill and not as many people to share it with.

You get more non-farm activity because you're a 7 day server - its a lot harder to make an emp push on a 30 day like Azura's Star or a 14 day like Chillrend. Someone can push at the start of a week for a few days on Haderus and be positioned for an emp push on the weekend if their friends are interested.

That seems positive, cause it means you're more likely to see meaningful activity. There aren't often emp pushes against Chill or Azura's because its so hard for people to get positioned for them. You'll always get your emperors back, so you guys should probably be less indignant about people having the gall to mess with you a little.

Cody

of course EP is going to focus the AD to death!! you people have camped us at the gates and held the server to yourselves for over THREE MONTHS. Why the f*** do you think EP is focusing on AD(Haderus) constantly? NONE of you have ANY room to play the victim card. NONE of you.

tonight was fun though, lots of good fights. Hopefully EP does not turn it into a buff server, hopefully DC shows up and takes their stuff, and hopefully, haderus, at some point, becomes a competitive server.

Ithilwenn

Jaerlach wrote: »

Ithilwenn wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

It was nice seeing lacideon again even though he said he did not like what haderus became... he was right along side the impulse blobbers....

sigh.

You want to talk about how AD goes to 2 bars? Perhaps that because 30+ep shows up and we know what will happen. Then what happens? EP gets 3 bars in Haderus while we also fight one bar of DC....now let's do the math...thats 4 bars against 2 AD bars, AD never reached 3 bars....and you want to talk about being outnumbered? What a damn joke. As for Lacedion, of course he was there fighting. Alurvelve is in OUR guild and we back and fight for our emps. You want to talk about buff servers...for those NOT homed in Haderus, what happens when AD messes with Azuras? huh? anyone? thats right, zergball mania. EP talks a lot of crap but when will they actually fight DC? Never. Because all EP knows how to do is purple. As for the native Haderus EP, it was fun to fight you again. Vjori, looking forward to it and Galalin...sounds like christmas will be interesting

Every time I have done something more meaningful than farm a resouce on Haderus, we have definitely fought active EP. Hijinx messed up the emp push for Treassach a couple weeks ago, and we've fought no shortage of the IR/PR visitors when we were doing other things.

Its a buff server, of course you're the main target. Do you think EP and AD fight each other on Chillrend? Of course not, they're outnumbered 5:1.

Not all bars are created equal, especially 1 bar - acting like 1 bar of DC is 1/3 the people of 3 bars of someone else is silly - ususally that 1 bar of DC is 25 or less people, a 3/4 full raid of one guild and maybe 10 other people somewhere else.

Outside these recent massive EP invasions, its silly to act like you do anything but outnumber your opponents 2:1 or 3:1. Again, thats what happens on a buff server, and its exactly WHY people come to fight you - lots of people to kill and not as many people to share it with.

You get more non-farm activity because you're a 7 day server - its a lot harder to make an emp push on a 30 day like Azura's Star or a 14 day like Chillrend. Someone can push at the start of a week for a few days on Haderus and be positioned for an emp push on the weekend if their friends are interested.

That seems positive, cause it means you're more likely to see meaningful activity. There aren't often emp pushes against Chill or Azura's because its so hard for people to get positioned for them. You'll always get your emperors back, so you guys should probably be less indignant about people having the gall to mess with you a little.

Some people may think I prefer Haderus to be yellow constantly and that actually is not the case. I like the competition. What I don't like is simply what Haderus has become and that is thornblade 2.0. I don't care if Haderus is a 7 day server, we hardly ever get any peace. Everyday is a fight for emp and it has become lag central. No one wants to play like that.

You make some good points about the size of forces, however, we fight DC and EP on both fronts and whenever lord ***...I mean fixate comes around, numbers are no less than 20-25.

Despite numbers, Haderus has become one big blue zergball and one red zerball of nothing but batswarming impulse monkeys who use no tactics to fight. Step one: gather in one ball, step 2: zerg and impulse spam, step 3: bat swarm, all up one side of the stairs and rinse and repeat down the other. I will give credit where it is due and that credit is this...the native EP of haderus use skills and tactics and thats why we stayed and fought them but sadly, they have become mixed with the red zergballers with no talent from thorn. Great you decimate people in 3 seconds, feel proud of yourself as you fight with no honor or dignity. My guild may lose but we fight with honor and we use skills and tactics. I would rather die and lose a thousand times over then become a spamming batswarming impulse monkey with no talent.

heres an idea: dc and fixate can go mess with azuras and ep can go mess with chillrend considering the longer campaign times because zerballing haderus proves nothing except that people have no skill. haderus' new ep can go back to thorn and leave the fighting between the native ad and the native ep. dont like that idea? too bad. that is why people quit. even telel, who is my friend, almost raged quit and that is saying quite alot.

the new tactics, if you can call them that, are pathetic. I still fight because I am not defeated. I will just not home in a campaign that has become thornlag 2.0 and makes the most decent and patient people not want to be there.

Thorjagger

I may have camped your gates a few times,but if I had any say I would let you take resource. Half the time I wasen't even on the front line fighting you guys at a bloody resource. I still had to get my points to stay on top.

As for you guys zerging us or should I say outnumbering us bothering me,that's not the part that bothers me,I don't mind the fact that it's a competitive server,I don't like the fact AD on this server is so divided that it's unreal. They're completely disorganized as a whole.

I'm also not playing the victim here. Truthfully I understand why EP wants to bully us,you guys feel bullied by the rest of AD who camped your gates. So you should.

Also if I had my way at any of those resources it would've been evenly matched every time.

Cody

Ithilwenn wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

It was nice seeing lacideon again even though he said he did not like what haderus became... he was right along side the impulse blobbers....

sigh.

You want to talk about how AD goes to 2 bars? Perhaps that because 30+ep shows up and we know what will happen. Then what happens? EP gets 3 bars in Haderus while we also fight one bar of DC....now let's do the math...thats 4 bars against 2 AD bars, AD never reached 3 bars....and you want to talk about being outnumbered? What a damn joke. As for Lacedion, of course he was there fighting. Alurvelve is in OUR guild and we back and fight for our emps. You want to talk about buff servers...for those NOT homed in Haderus, what happens when AD messes with Azuras? huh? anyone? thats right, zergball mania. EP talks a lot of crap but when will they actually fight DC? Never. Because all EP knows how to do is purple. As for the native Haderus EP, it was fun to fight you again. Vjori, looking forward to it and Galalin...sounds like christmas will be interesting

ALL buff servers should be liberated. They are abominations and a disgrace on PvP.

And lets be honest, AD has no room to play the victim card on Haderus. AD has constantly camped EPs(and DCs) gates. As soon as we would take farragut lumber mill, AD groups 4 times our size would show up and camp us back to our literal spawn points. even the freaking emperor would show up:( Most of the AD of Haderus are selfish people, ruining the game for others over PvE buffs, and have no right to complian when EP or DC makes pushes and actually defeats AD and acquires scrolls and keeps.

I honestly don't know why you and every other AD person making such a big fuss are doing so to begin with. You people will simply wait until DC and EP go to sleep and cap everything back anyway, so stop complaining.

Jaerlach

Cody wrote: »

of course EP is going to focus the AD to death!! you people have camped us at the gates and held the server to yourselves for over THREE MONTHS. Why the f*** do you think EP is focusing on AD(Haderus) constantly? NONE of you have ANY room to play the victim card. NONE of you.

tonight was fun though, lots of good fights. Hopefully EP does not turn it into a buff server, hopefully DC shows up and takes their stuff, and hopefully, haderus, at some point, becomes a competitive server.

That won't ever happen as long as there are 4 veteran rank servers, because there are just too many PVE-focused players who need buffs, its too logical to break down the system. They get great incentive for maintaining a buff server (10% exp buff, relevant pve damage and health buffs for speed running or high end content, etc), and each faction has a lot of those people who have a strong incentive to maintain it and no investment in pvp health.

EP is only in Haderus because of the low pop cap forcing people to go somewhere that isnt Thornblade.

It won't last, becuase the nightcap will make it all yellow again every day, and the campaign isn't legitimately fun if you lose your progress every day. The only value of playing on Haderus is AP and former Emp buffs, in the long term.

Ithilwenn

Thorjagger wrote: »

I may have camped your gates a few times,but if I had any say I would let you take resource. Half the time I wasen't even on the front line fighting you guys at a bloody resource. I still had to get my points to stay on top.

As for you guys zerging us or should I say outnumbering us bothering me,that's not the part that bothers me,I don't mind the fact that it's a competitive server,I don't like the fact AD on this server is so divided that it's unreal. They're completely disorganized as a whole.

I'm also not playing the victim here. Truthfully I understand why EP wants to bully us,you guys feel bullied by the rest of AD who camped your gates. So you should.

Also if I had my way at any of those resources it would've been evenly matched every time.

DC and EP can say we camped their gates but let us bring some real insight into this. AD PUGS camped your gates. The IV Legion was one of the only guilds that fought and defended haderus before all this crap went down. I know what goes on in our TS and what was said time and again was "stay away from the gates. let them come out. let them do something." we never wanted to camp gates. if and when it happened, was because we had emp and had to out ap the ad farmers. ask the native ep in had, we stayed away for days and we fell on the leaderboards and we could no longer stay away. As a rule though, our guild does not gate camp. I get why EP wants to complain but don't act like the same isn't done to us. In azuras, they *tried* to farm us at the gates...our gates...so it makes them no different. On had, all of our keeps are taken instead of DC and EP fighting each other. That is utter crap. Ty makes great points in this post.