A Call to Haderus!

Telel

Today Telel's unskilled and pathetic khajiit self got to murder some oh so brave, and most decidedly original and well trained members of the Pact.

In fact these grand hereoes, and most decided icons of their faction were of such a caliber they had obviously grown bored with actually fighting people who could fight back and had instead focused on teaching the most inexperienced of their enemies that they should not try to collect a skyshard right next to their faction's scroll temple. Nor should they even think about trying to ride more than ten meters out of their base camps to the gate.

Fortunately these obviously highly competent, socially well adjusted, and well groomed gentlement with impeccable hygiene were kind enough to die, and die, and then die some more the moment this humble one's friends showed up to say hello.

We wished to say hello some more later once there were enough for a proper siege of the gate keeps but sadly they must have had appointments elsewhere. Or perhaps they were lost amidst the burning hordes of pacters that bravely held off the ten people who could be mustered to fall upon their swords at Blood Mayne.

Oh Telel also, knocked someone off the inner keep with an upper cut today. That was fun. It should also be an achievement.

Blackclouud

Nice work tonight DC!!!!!

Hell of a last few hours!!

WarrioroftheWind_ESO

This is completely and utterly, without a doubt, unacceptable and pitiful conduct from any human being, let alone a member of EP.

The offending guild engaged in the single most horrid example of facilitation of emperor farming I've ever seen before with my own eyes. Members of their group set down oil pots on the GROUND outside the keep, ensuring that the rest of the defenders at the last EMP keep of the night, BRK, would be utterly unable to set up proper defenses. Granted DC had a full raid complement of skilled players, we could have easily held them off with proper defenses and a solid effort from ALL EP players.

But this guild has shown itself time and again they have no consideration for the spirit of proper competition. This guild is poisonous and toxic to its core and does not belong on Haderus or any other campaign server for that matter. There are a dozen other games that are well suited to such outright self-faction griefing. ESO is not one of them. I implore players from AD and DC who support honest pvp to not allow EP to take emperor any more for the duration of the campaign cycle and the following weeks until this stain of a guild has removed itself from the server. Most of us fight to defend and rank up, but these players have demonstrated a hideous disregard for everyone else but themselves.

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Thorjagger

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

This is completely and utterly, without a doubt, unacceptable and pitiful conduct from any human being, let alone a member of EP.

The offending guild engaged in the single most horrid example of facilitation of emperor farming I've ever seen before with my own eyes. Members of their group set down oil pots on the GROUND outside the keep, ensuring that the rest of the defenders at the last EMP keep of the night, BRK, would be utterly unable to set up proper defenses. Granted DC had a full raid complement of skilled players, we could have easily held them off with proper defenses and a solid effort from ALL EP players.

But this guild has shown itself time and again they have no consideration for the spirit of proper competition. This guild is poisonous and toxic to its core and does not belong on Haderus or any other campaign server for that matter. There are a dozen other games that are well suited to such outright self-faction griefing. ESO is not one of them. I implore players from AD and DC who support honest pvp to not allow EP to take emperor any more for the duration of the campaign cycle and the following weeks until this stain of a guild has removed itself from the server. Most of us fight to defend and rank up, but these players have demonstrated a hideous disregard for everyone else but themselves.

This is what I knew from the day this all started that this is what it would become.

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Weberda

Thorjagger wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

This is completely and utterly, without a doubt, unacceptable and pitiful conduct from any human being, let alone a member of EP.

The offending guild (as I like to call them, Imperium Rectum) engaged in the single most horrid example of facilitation of emperor farming I've ever seen before with my own eyes. Members of their group set down oil pots on the GROUND outside the keep, ensuring that the rest of the defenders at the last EMP keep of the night, BRK, would be utterly unable to set up proper defenses. Granted DC had a full raid complement of skilled players, we could have easily held them off with proper defenses and a solid effort from ALL EP players.

But this guild has shown itself time and again they have no consideration for the spirit of proper competition. This guild is poisonous and toxic to its core and does not belong on Haderus or any other campaign server for that matter. There are a dozen other games that are well suited to such outright self-faction griefing. ESO is not one of them. I implore players from AD and DC who support honest pvp to not allow EP to take emperor any more for the duration of the campaign cycle and the following weeks until this stain of a guild has removed itself from the server. Most of us fight to defend and rank up, but these obscene inconsiderate foul heartless arrogant monstrously incompetent players have demonstrated a hideous disregard for everyone else but themselves.

This is what I knew from the day this all started that this is what it would become.

You mean when Haderus was no longer an AD buff server? C'mon Tyn, that was crappy PVP too then and you know it.

This latest fiasco is sadly an example of what an unregulated guild system will accomplish. If there was a mechanism in place for the guilds to police themselves and help protect the integrity of AVA by hitting offending guilds with sanctions then these things might not happen. Unfortunately as of now there is little a player can do against this kind of garbage play. Last night I brought my AD toon back to Haderus to help AD instead of playing my normal EP toon on Had. It was about all I could do to protest what was going on.

Wyndfoot

The days of Sura holding emperor for 59 days will never occur again on Haderus. Sad thing is IR has the strength to do something like that but would rather have every member in the guild be a former emperor. What they are missing is they are allowing the enemy to get as many former emperors as themselves so their is no gain in power over the competition like they think.

Weberda

Wyndfoot wrote: »

The days of Sura holding emperor for 59 days will never occur again on Haderus. Sad thing is IR has the strength to do something like that but would rather have every member in the guild be a former emperor. What they are missing is they are allowing the enemy to get as many former emperors as themselves so their is no gain in power over the competition like they think.

"We have met the enemy and he is us"

yodased

Really insane the amount of red that has been in Haderus the last week, it seems like they are everywhere and they do some really shady tactics. Sad really.

vortexman11

And then a voice from the heavens came forth, and this voice said to the AD of Haderus

"Go to Chillrend, let those who were once enemies on the battlefield come together as one to crush the blue hoard"
-Morgan Freeman

Weberda

vortexman11 wrote: »

And then a voice from the heavens came forth, and this voice said to the AD of Haderus

"Come to Chillrend, let those who were once enemies on the battlefield come together as one to crush the blue hoard"

That's kinda scary...

vortexman11

And the AD of Haderus listened.

They and all their families were blessed with bags overflowing with AP for the rest of their lives.

yodased

If its in Morgan Freeman's voice, I'm in. See you in chillrend Vortex

Weberda

yodased wrote: »

If its in Morgan Freeman's voice, I'm in. See you in chillrend Vortex

Hmmm. This is the same"voice" that got me to play EP on Haderus.

vortexman11

Weberda wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

If its in Morgan Freeman's voice, I'm in. See you in chillrend Vortex

Hmmm. This is the same"voice" that got me to play EP on Haderus.

Do not question the voice for it only brings good news.

He who is watching did not realize just how bad Haderus has become and did not take everyone's complaints of emp farming seriously. But if it's gotten to the point where your own faction is preventing you from defending keeps by placing useless oil pots as I read. Then all you AD should come to Chillrend and leave whoever these EP are alone to play with themselves .

Remember, they can't farm emp if there is no one to take the keeps back.

Besides, the major plus of being on Chillrend is the fact that DC other than on a few rare occasions, is usually at the lowest pop or just non-existent. While on Chillrend, whether it's PvE-ers or PvP-ers, there's always a group of them. So if we had a group of AD (one that's not just there to crown emp and leave [snip]) it could be a better place to start up some balanced PvP.

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Weberda

vortexman11 wrote: »

Weberda wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

If its in Morgan Freeman's voice, I'm in. See you in chillrend Vortex

Hmmm. This is the same"voice" that got me to play EP on Haderus.

Do not question the voice for it only brings good news.

He who is watching did not realize just how bad Haderus has become and did not take everyone's complaints of emp farming seriously. But if it's gotten to the point where your own faction is preventing you from defending keeps by placing useless oil pots as I read. Then all you AD should come to Chillrend.

Remember, they can't farm emp if there is no one to take the keeps back.

Besides, the major plus of being on Chillrend is the fact that DC other than on a few rare occasions, is usually at the lowest pop or just non-existent. While on Chillrend, whether it's PvE-ers or PvP-ers, there's always a group of them. So if we had a group of AD (one that's not just there to crown emp and leave [snip]) it could be a better place to start up some balanced PvP.

Sadly the oil pot thing is true and there are other factors as well. And I don't think [snip] the others are going to abandon the campaign.

However when I was on Chill Monday we got wiped at BRK by 1,500,000 AD according to your count. In the post above you're trying to recruit more AD?!?!?!!? <facepalm>

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Casandra

Sadly, not only did this guild use oil pots (that could not be used because they were in the middle of the floor) in our way of putting down seige, but, 3 members of this guild willfully and purposely shouted in zone chat a lie that enemies were at a particular keep (BRK) in effort to pull us off of Alessia so the enemy could repel our attack on that keep and take it back.

My challenge is to this guild's leader to come forth with answers to his guild's recent activities on Haderus..... The REAL guilds of Had that have homed there for 9 months and have proven loyalty and honor to all, need an apology for the grievous behaviors of his guild!

The guild I am in..... our Guild Leader.... would of kicked any of us for this blatant misuse of a guild's power.

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WarrioroftheWind_ESO

Casandra wrote: »

Sadly, not only did this guild use oil pots (that could not be used because they were in the middle of the floor) in our way of putting down seige, but, 3 members of this guild willfully and purposely shouted in zone chat a lie that enemies were at a particular keep (BRK) in effort to pull us off of Alessia so the enemy could repel our attack on that keep and take it back.

My challenge is to this guild's leader (I R) to come forth with answers to his guild's recent activities on Haderus..... The REAL guilds of Had that have homed there for 9 months and have proven loyalty and honor to all, need an apology for the grievous behaviors of his guild!

The guild I am in..... our Guild Leader.... would of kicked any of us for this blatant misuse of a guild's power.

I have at least four screenshots showing a nice string of oilpots like a burning necklace lining the ground between the outer wall and the inner postern. There was one player in particular I witnessed placing them, the current I think 3rd or 4th in rank on the leaderboards. The emperor at the time was not present at the defense and dropped rankings immediately after being deposed. Meanwhile roughly 18 or so EP managed a tenuous hold against an attack at Arrius from DC's newly crowned emp, who was at the front lines, visible in plain sight, and kicking EP booty. Stark contrast to the previous EP emp. Additionally 2 members of the offending guild were spotted milling around the keep walls while the rest of EP were trying to retake resources or placing defensive sieges.

I'm told other people took screenies and/or video. I strongly recommend everyone who was there and witnessed what happened file reports and submit your evidence. We can't police these sort of people if the extent of what we can do is waggle our fingers and say 'now that wasn't very nice'.

What really boils my blood is I kept hearing that members of the guild leadership 'did not approve and were very sorry for the actions of their guild members'. In fact the recently deposed emp was spouting off in zone chat earlier that day how we should get along and work together against a common enemy. SURE! work against the common enemy when it SUITS YOU.

I didn't have a problem with earlier emps because they'd at least reign for a day if not slightly more, and were actually present and made concerted efforts to hold their reigns. But this past rash of emps I'm not sure if they're either being pressured for a quick deposing or are just inherently outright ***.

Regardless of what the guild leadership claims, for this to have gone on as long as it is is an insult to the hard work of every other EP guild who have struggled practically uphill against other factions on several campaigns.

I usually try to get in as much pvp as I can on my off days from work and my off time both because I want to rack up points towards my alliance rank (need the skill points!) and to get rank 3 for contribution. Despite it being a paltry sum almost 2000 gold for killing people is decent payment considering how much I spend on various items.

I don't know how far I am this week, but I think after I cap out this week I'll abstain from pvp until at least 1.6 launches or until this guild of chest-thumping butt-monkeys is gone for good. Honestly watching some of what the members of this guild were saying in zone chat made me want to just log off and go play Oblivion for a bit, but the only reason I stayed was because I didn't want ANYONE to get emp. In fact the title remained unclaimed for almost the entire day. Unless DC were complicit in the scheme too, it was probably a mistake for all 2 bars of their population to keep throwing themselves into Bleakers while Ales was taken from them. and I'm sorry if AD gave up and stopped trying after having almost 3 simultaneous sieges being turned back.

Ezareth was a good emp. Lacedion was a good emp. Vortexman was a good emp. Vjori was a good emp.

This guild and every emp they've crowned so far. They do NOT deserve the title or to even be IN this game.

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vortexman11

Weberda wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

Weberda wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

If its in Morgan Freeman's voice, I'm in. See you in chillrend Vortex

Hmmm. This is the same"voice" that got me to play EP on Haderus.

Do not question the voice for it only brings good news.

He who is watching did not realize just how bad Haderus has become and did not take everyone's complaints of emp farming seriously. But if it's gotten to the point where your own faction is preventing you from defending keeps by placing useless oil pots as I read. Then all you AD should come to Chillrend.

Remember, they can't farm emp if there is no one to take the keeps back.

Besides, the major plus of being on Chillrend is the fact that DC other than on a few rare occasions, is usually at the lowest pop or just non-existent. While on Chillrend, whether it's PvE-ers or PvP-ers, there's always a group of them. So if we had a group of AD (one that's not just there to crown emp and leave *cough* WRX *cough*) it could be a better place to start up some balanced PvP.

Sadly the oil pot thing is true and there are other factors as well. And I don't think Benom, Phoenix, and the others are going to abandon the campaign.

However when I was on Chill Monday we got wiped at BRK by 1,500,000 AD according to your count. In the post above you're trying to recruit more AD?!?!?!!? <facepalm>

Fern, we both know that those AD won't even stay for half the duration of the campaign, eventually, once they've completed whatever it is they set out to do, they'll leave.

Darklord_Tiberius

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

This is completely and utterly, without a doubt, unacceptable and pitiful conduct from any human being, let alone a member of EP.

The offending guild engaged in the single most horrid example of facilitation of emperor farming I've ever seen before with my own eyes. Members of their group set down oil pots on the GROUND outside the keep, ensuring that the rest of the defenders at the last EMP keep of the night, BRK, would be utterly unable to set up proper defenses. Granted DC had a full raid complement of skilled players, we could have easily held them off with proper defenses and a solid effort from ALL EP players.

But this guild has shown itself time and again they have no consideration for the spirit of proper competition. This guild is poisonous and toxic to its core and does not belong on Haderus or any other campaign server for that matter. There are a dozen other games that are well suited to such outright self-faction griefing. ESO is not one of them. I implore players from AD and DC who support honest pvp to not allow EP to take emperor any more for the duration of the campaign cycle and the following weeks until this stain of a guild has removed itself from the server. Most of us fight to defend and rank up, but these players have demonstrated a hideous disregard for everyone else but themselves.

They were using an exploit to gain AP from killing certain individuals repeatedly. I will not say how I know this, but I know for certain a GM whispered a handful of those in that guild that were doing it and gave them a warning. They are hands down the worst guild I have seen in any game I have played.

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Darklord_Tiberius

I also have a screenshot of one of their guild members calling out in zone chat not to defend the Emperor keeps because they needed to crown more Emperors.

This server situation is such garbage and always has been. Either reduce the servers down to two PvP servers, a 30 day and 14 day, or revamp guesting and homing. Do not allow people to travel to playing in Cyrodiil, do not allow it to be so cheap to bounce all over to different servers. Once you jump off a campaign you cannot go back until that cycle is done. Do not allow people from longer campaigns to jump freely into lesser campaigns ie 30 day to 7 or 14. Create a grace period on each campaign that people can only change during that time.

Create a loyalty program on PvP servers so that you need to fulfill that requirement also and not just get some AP. A monkey with a wrench smashing his keyboard could get emperor if it was at least getting AP. Say for example, requirement for Emperor on Haderus: Must be homed here 8 weeks and get XX AP to qualify for Emperor.

This stuff is not rocket science people. You are cracking down on trolling on the forums; here is an idea, how about you crack down on the clowns trolling your actual game mechanics?

Obviously, the PvP servers wont be addressed at all until after July, which I am not going to hold my breath even at that point, so any hope of a solution to this issue is a long way off sadly. The only thing we can do is as a community of players is blacklist this guild and their activities. Other than that, they are free to exploit this game to their hearts desire....

WarrioroftheWind_ESO

Weberda wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

If its in Morgan Freeman's voice, I'm in. See you in chillrend Vortex

Hmmm. This is the same"voice" that got me to play EP on Haderus.

Is this what you sound like on voice chat? Why you so shy then? Get a mike and assail everyone's ears with your sweet sweet voice.

I myself and others will probably weather the storm on Had out of sheer principle, but these sorts of tactics have been going on long enough. A line needs to be drawn, and people guilty of such actions need to be held accountable.

Galalin

After coming back 2 days ago it makes me sick to be EP on Had right now. I'm lost for words and can only apologize to the legit DC/AD players on the server. I don't speak for all EP on Had but I can tell you almost all of us EP are sick of this exploiting, demining, lying and selfish guild as I'm sure most of you are. I used to have a ton of respect for this guild but it seems they have just let any trash join the party and make a mockery of a once great guild

DK Scrub Out

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Telel

So Telel must ask. Does this mean we should simply stop dethroning the Pacters in order to rpevent them from abusing the system further yes?

If so this one and the pups will begin suggesting such a thing this evening when they roll in to help on Haderus.

If that does not work then The Batkhajiit will likely move their guild somewhere else for a week or two until these oh so grandly 'skilled' people get bored of being unable to compete at the same level as a third rate player such as Telel.

A change of scenery may help this one train up the new meat we've gathered recently, as well as give us time to go skyshard nomming.

Panda244

vortexman11 wrote: »

And then a voice from the heavens came forth, and this voice said to the AD of Haderus

"Go to Chillrend, let those who were once enemies on the battlefield come together as one to crush the blue hoard"
-Morgan Freeman

I'd like you to know I was on Chillrend before it was a thing, back when Kami was Empress. I usually just poked Bloodmayne and Black Boot and killed whoever showed up, nothing big. When I get a new laptop I'll come back to crush the overwhelming blue PvE horde. I will however say this Vortex, when the last blue flag is ripped down from the battlements, I shall turn to you, sword in hand, and stab you right in the kidney, as you only need one.

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

Weberda wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

If its in Morgan Freeman's voice, I'm in. See you in chillrend Vortex

Hmmm. This is the same"voice" that got me to play EP on Haderus.

Is this what you sound like on voice chat? Why you so shy then? Get a mike and assail everyone's ears with your sweet sweet voice.

I myself and others will probably weather the storm on Had out of sheer principle, but these sorts of tactics have been going on long enough. A line needs to be drawn, and people guilty of such actions need to be held accountable.

No wind, he sounds just like me, he is the TS text-to-speech voice.

Panda244

Telel wrote: »

So Telel must ask. Does this mean we should simply stop dethroning the Pacters in order to rpevent them from abusing the system further yes?

If so this one and the pups will begin suggesting such a thing this evening when they roll in to help on Haderus.

If that does not work then The Batkhajiit will likely move their guild somewhere else for a week or two until these oh so grandly 'skilled' people get bored of being unable to compete at the same level as a third rate player such as Telel.

A change of scenery may help this one train up the new meat we've gathered recently, as well as give us time to go skyshard nomming.

Head to Chillrend, destroy the blue buff server. Simple as that.

diskiukas

That guild maybe doing it very blatantly, but believe me they are not the only ones disregarding other players and treat the server as their personal playground.

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yodased

See I get called a 'carebear' alot more than I ever thought and that is because I have genuine respect and courtesy that is lacking especially in the player vs player community of any game really. The general concept of making other people feel bad just to see if you can is something I am not familiar with or comfortable with, so it bothers me immensely when I see it happen continually.

The actions of a small minority of people really taint the perception of the community as a whole. I have met some amazing people through battles on Haderus, I have also seen the worst of the worst there.

Simple rules of don't be a *** should be enough to keep us all playing nice with each other, even in the heat of battle, but unfortunately that rule isn't as common to people as it once was.

If people would just take a second and stop and think about their actions reflecting their community and more importantly their IRL self, they may realize that they are representing a horrible section of humanity.

TL:DR Haderus is completely toxic because of a few rotten apples and it's causing the entire community to degrade.

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vortexman11

Panda244 wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

And then a voice from the heavens came forth, and this voice said to the AD of Haderus

"Go to Chillrend, let those who were once enemies on the battlefield come together as one to crush the blue hoard"
-Morgan Freeman

I'd like you to know I was on Chillrend before it was a thing, back when Kami was Empress. I usually just poked Bloodmayne and Black Boot and killed whoever showed up, nothing big. When I get a new laptop I'll come back to crush the overwhelming blue PvE horde. I will however say this Vortex, when the last blue flag is ripped down from the battlements, I shall turn to you, sword in hand, and stab you right in the kidney, as you only need one.

I'd like you to know I was there with you as I've always switched between Haderus and Chillrend. And sshhhhh, I didn't mention that last part for a reason.

Panda244

yodased wrote: »

See I get called a 'carebear' alot more than I ever thought and that is because I have genuine respect and courtesy that is lacking especially in the player vs player community of any game really. The general concept of making other people feel bad just to see if you can is something I am not familiar with or comfortable with, so it bothers me immensely when I see it happen continually.

The actions of a small minority of people really taint the perception of the community as a whole. I have met some amazing people through battles on Haderus, I have also seen the worst of the worst there.

Simple rules of don't be a *** should be enough to keep us all playing nice with each other, even in the heat of battle, but unfortunately that rule isn't as common to people as it once was.

If people would just take a second and stop and think about their actions reflecting their community and more importantly their IRL self, they may realize that they are representing a horrible section of humanity.

TL:DR Haderus is completely toxic because of a few rotten apples and it's causing the entire community to degrade.

@yodased But you're my carebear... We exploit all the time together because we're DKs?!? Talons Spam, Reflect Spam, Dragon Leap!!!

As for the few rotten apples, there isn't a thing any of us can do but ignore them. I for one have turned off zone chat in Haderus and Thornblade for this reason, the chat that goes on between AD is... It's just volatile, more volatile than @Gorthax Volatile Familiar

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Panda244

vortexman11 wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

And then a voice from the heavens came forth, and this voice said to the AD of Haderus

"Go to Chillrend, let those who were once enemies on the battlefield come together as one to crush the blue hoard"
-Morgan Freeman

I'd like you to know I was on Chillrend before it was a thing, back when Kami was Empress. I usually just poked Bloodmayne and Black Boot and killed whoever showed up, nothing big. When I get a new laptop I'll come back to crush the overwhelming blue PvE horde. I will however say this Vortex, when the last blue flag is ripped down from the battlements, I shall turn to you, sword in hand, and stab you right in the kidney, as you only need one.

I'd like you to know I was there with you as I've always switched between Haderus and Chillrend. And sshhhhh, I didn't mention that last part for a reason.

Oh.... You still want it to be a secret? I mean I was going to put it in my signature, and add the EP character that I'm going to grind for you.. But uhh. Secret. Right. Quiet then... Silence... Pancakes!!!