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In case anyone is wondering why AoE Caps are being removed..Here is the video

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  • dcincali
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    Working as intended 15 dollars please. AAA mmo right thur.
  • Komma
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    Wow...just...wow.. I don't even have a destroy staff or use any aoe's actually. Glad I wasn't there for this.
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  • Xsorus
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    I actually msged Perichor (sping) and asked him how he was doing while standing in the middle of that...He's from Ad...that should tell you how *** the PvP was.

    Now some are probably wondering..Why not throw down Oil....We tried...The lag basically gobbled it up and made it non usable like in the previous videos of this i've done.

  • Gilvoth
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    i dont understand how zenimax can consider this type of spamming that happens constantly in cryodiil with the fire staffs and all the area of effect spamming to be considered fun and pvp at all.
  • Komma
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    If it isn't fun why is everyone doing it? O.o
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  • Gilvoth
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    because it's thier only way of killing other people, they obviously have no skills nor ability to actually use the abilites provided with thier class. instead they spam all thier efforts into one single targetable option and spam it with all thier friends.
    thats supose to be considered "fun" and pvp ??
  • Gilvoth
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    this thing has been going on for 6 months like this and that's the only thing they do constantly, stand there with staffs in large groups and spam fire rings with bats and got thier pvp titles by this method alone, they even have the guts to come up here to eso forums and make threads congratulating themselves on what they see as a huge victory in wining a campaign by this method alone.
    Edited by Gilvoth on October 3, 2014 5:02AM
  • frosth.darkomenb16_ESO
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    Komma wrote: »
    If it isn't fun why is everyone doing it? O.o

    Because it isn't a choice.
    Either you stack, or you are gimped.

    Keep in mind that for a group of 24, the target cap and the stacking tactic mean they gain 75% dodge chance against aoes.
    Thi is not something players can ignore.
  • Siliconhobbit_ESO
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    I'm not really sure I understand what's going on in this video.

    Can someone please enlighten me?

    Seriously.
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  • Ackwalan
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    I'm not really sure I understand what's going on in this video.

    Can someone please enlighten me?

    Seriously.

    Because of AOE caps and lag he is basically immune to all damage.

  • Tintinabula
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    the most efficient way to take a flag is to stand in one spot and spam fire ring.
    the most efficient way to siege a keep is to stand in one spot and spam fire ring.
    the most efficient way to PvP in cyrodiil is to stand in one spot and spam fire ring.
  • Gilvoth
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    I'm not really sure I understand what's going on in this video.

    Can someone please enlighten me?

    Seriously.

    Because of AOE caps and lag he is basically immune to all damage.

    not just him but all people in that area. cause you can see him trying to attack people and not being able to do any damage to anyone.

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    Yea I tried single targeting... but lag made that impossible.

    Couldn't throw down Oil...Hell if ya think.."Well why didn't ya go outside and just kill people there" because I tried that....The whole area was lagged.... Hell i think it was lagging the whole server at the time.

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    yeah i know, i saw you try to leave by the doors and couldnt leave. so it's obvious you were trying to get out or find a way to fight and nothing worked.

    my complaint is this-

    when you think of a pvp castle fight the first thing comes to mind is people actually fighting inside the castle and alot of realy hard fighting and skills being used.
    but
    here in this video we see the true and actual pvp that is prety much all that realy happens "most" of the time in cryodiil.
    because i will admit this is not allways the case, there are times when we do see real fighting and pvp, but most of the time what you see in this video is exactly what takes place in most of the castles in cryodiil.

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    impluse monkey spammers
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    Komma wrote: »
    If it isn't fun why is everyone doing it? O.o

    Because it isn't a choice.
    Either you stack, or you are gimped.

    Keep in mind that for a group of 24, the target cap and the stacking tactic mean they gain 75% dodge chance against aoes.
    Thi is not something players can ignore.

    There is a choice. Become a better player. This style of play and clear exploitation of a broken mechanic annoys the *** out of me. Recently I have been having trouble finding a reason to log on and when I do and actually find a fight, I really don't feel like playing through that nonsense. So it's a choice for the AOE spammers; either you cut it out or eventually you'll end up with an empty PvP server.
    Edited by JaJaLuka on October 3, 2014 5:37AM
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  • Domander
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    unfortunately without aoe caps that fight would be over really really fast, I don't know what the solution is... but super fast aoe smackdown fights don't sound fun either.
    Edited by Domander on October 3, 2014 5:41AM
  • Grim13
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    ROFL!

    At around the 5 minute mark of your video I went up top of the keep and stood beside Grunt, not even bothering to pretend to fight one another, and bemusedly watched the circus below.

    Surreal.

    Zenimax are the hacks of the gaming world, as far as I am concerned,... the mickey mouse outfit masquerading as mmo programmers. I really hope they can get their *** together because the game can be a lot of fun when it wants to be... but my cynicism towards their odds of making it are increasing exponentially.
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    I see people saying its the most efficient way to win...That didn't look efficient at all. It looked like a bunch of clowns who cause the lag and complain to zenimax that there is lag. If there were no lag I could see the argument for aoe caps being removed. They don't force you to fight pvp like you fight pve. That is your choice and when they remove aoe caps folks will find the next non skill way of playing.
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  • æxæ
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    got nothing to add but same crap on EU server.

    Would you be so kind to tell me the artist and title of the background music you've used, appreciated!

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    Komma wrote: »
    I see people saying its the most efficient way to win...That didn't look efficient at all. It looked like a bunch of clowns who cause the lag and complain to zenimax that there is lag. If there were no lag I could see the argument for aoe caps being removed. They don't force you to fight pvp like you fight pve. That is your choice and when they remove aoe caps folks will find the next non skill way of playing.

    That's like blaming someone driving a vehicle with a manufacturing defect for using the gas pedal.
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    Players who rely on this garbage deserve to be the butt of everyone's derision.
  • JaJaLuka
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    Columba wrote: »
    Players who rely on this garbage deserve to be the butt of everyone's derision.

    agreed.
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    Might I suggest this as a soundtrack for the next video of blobvblob

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpYzTMyXTns
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  • Nazon_Katts
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    The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that not only caps have to removed, but AOE altogether. Atleast nobrain spammable PBAOE. A single target centric pvp should be more aesthetically pleasing. If there's AOEs, they should be ranged, channeled or with considerable cast time and powerful in the moment, situational and evadable, not the goto source for sustainable damage.

    I have no interest in joining what was just shown here.
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    It's discouraging. I logged out tonight bummed out. It seems like keep sieges are PvE and you become a mindless mob if you try to enter through a hole in the wall or into inner keep.

    How do you counter blob AoE? Jump off the side of the keep and sneak away. Let them farm people who haven't learned until they learn. .




  • frosth.darkomenb16_ESO
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    JaJaLuka wrote: »
    Komma wrote: »
    If it isn't fun why is everyone doing it? O.o

    Because it isn't a choice.
    Either you stack, or you are gimped.

    Keep in mind that for a group of 24, the target cap and the stacking tactic mean they gain 75% dodge chance against aoes.
    Thi is not something players can ignore.

    There is a choice. Become a better player. This style of play and clear exploitation of a broken mechanic annoys the *** out of me. Recently I have been having trouble finding a reason to log on and when I do and actually find a fight, I really don't feel like playing through that nonsense. So it's a choice for the AOE spammers; either you cut it out or eventually you'll end up with an empty PvP server.

    Yes there is a "possible choice" but not a meaningful one.
    You have the choice to go in battle without armor or weapons, or without any abilities equiped on your hotbar, but would you?

    Being better at the game means recognising advantages and learning how to use them. Stacking is an advantage with no drawbacks, to use it is a natural conclusion. This is just an observation, not an endorsment.
    As they say, "hate the game, not the player".

    This is the core of the "campaign" against aoe caps, with them implemented, the skill ceiling is blocked at "knowing how to stack".
    That's what it currently means to be "better at eso".

    The game is otherwise well designed, I have been in battles where both sides didn't know about the caps, and it worked great. Without target caps, you can see other tactics appearing and getting used, natural line of skrimage and melee/range/healer lines forming organically.

    I look forward to the future without caps.
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Might I suggest this as a soundtrack for the next video of blobvblob

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpYzTMyXTns

    Use the appropriate version please...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwLN3fdsph0
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  • MiyaTheUnbroken
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    Forgive me, as I am new to PvP, but I thought standing on the flag and pushing buttons as fast as you can is what you're supposed to do. Is it specifically the area effect skills you're upset about? Or the lag? Or the stand on the flag and attack like crazy method?

    For me it's the lag. Earlier we were defending a keep from both enemies, and even though outer hadn't even been breached I was lagging so bad I couldn't take damage and my stealth wouldn't break. The downside was that no one else seemed to be taking damage either, but I did feel like a super ninja for a while.
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    I saw my alt I'm leveling up. (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
    This one was rekt by Zenimax
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