Race Change Service

Mondo

1. You are wrong big time^^
2. It will bring much much much more money
3. Did you visit some higher school or do you work in salebusiness? I think i know the answer
4. No but i find it funny cause your arguments are pointless crap sorry. No one will leave because of race change just a few kind of weird people like you. I dont mean it in a bad way perhaps you are a nice guy, sorry when this sound bad my english is not that good

brandon

Mondo wrote: »

1. You are wrong big time^^
2. It will bring much much much more money
3. Did you visit some higher school or do you work in salebusiness? I think i know the answer
4. No but i find it funny cause your arguments are pointless crap sorry. No one will leave because of race change just a few kind of weird people like you. I dont mean it in a bad way perhaps you are a nice guy, sorry when this sound bad my english is not that good

1 Not quite
2 I think most people playing this game are elder scrolls players, not mmo players and I don't think they would care much about a race change. So no I don't think it will bring in that much money. Again it would be using f2p tactics in a sub game which is a terrible idea.
3 Pointless question so no point in answering it.
4 My arguments are "pointless crap" huh? That's funny coming from the side of people who only want to change because they are bored with their character or want to be a flavor of the month.

The English is fine.

Mondo

You got the same Service in other MMOs with and without sub like WoW and Tera. Big profit you know

Varicite

lol, people unsubbing because of paid race changes?

Right, I'll believe that when I see it. Considering past history, this has hasn't occurred in any other games that have introduced this service, it likely won't happen here either.

There are much better reasons to unsub from a game, like not having fun, bugs, etc.

Something like this that doesn't effect other players in the least probably won't be on the list.

Probably about the same number of people who unsubbed because they sell the Imperial Edition and Palomino horse in the store already (FAR more intrusive than changing your race to another race you could have already picked), which is.. well, pretty close to zero.

AlexDougherty

Just to remind everyone, keep it polite.

Mods do police these forums, and will hand out bans if they think people are breaking forum rules.

It's ok to defend your opinion on a matter, but don't name-call, insult or antagonise each other.

You might want to go back and edit some of these posts too.

Aeratus

This "choices should have consequence" argument is bs really.

If it were so, your character should be permanently dead after dying once. But no, games are made for entertainment.

SaiJinu

No change race ..this is silly and stupid. Just make fast an alt with the race/gender you want and problem is solved.

Varicite

SaiJinu wrote: »

No change race ..this is silly and stupid. Just make fast an alt with the race/gender you want and problem is solved.

Minus the content and achievements that you've already done on the exact same class, and grinding through VR content, sure.

This is like saying you should start back over in elementary school if you want to major in something else in college...

rusila22

Ya i agree make a new alt or do like me:

At the beginning of TESO i had a v12 nordic templar in EU shard but not fun to play so i made a new 1 in NA shard !

now i have a an Elf DK V12 and i'm so happy !

well it will take you 9-10days of playing TESO to reach V12
!So what are you waiting for ?? Oo>>>>gogogo to Tamriel

Mondo

I agree with Varicite. Make an alt is just a stupid argument

AlexDougherty

Mondo wrote: »

I agree with Varicite. Make an alt is just a stupid argument

There is a thread in either new players or players guide forums, saying you can get from creation to VR12 in a week.

So rolling a new alt isn't that daft an idea.

Edit~ My position is it's ok as long as it happens out of the game.
Just pointing out there is a basis for the create an alt arguement, just as there is a basis for the arguement for race change service.

TehMagnus

Races: I hope never. But when are Alliance changes coming?

That way all EU server can just be done with it and go to Aldmeri to have PVP buffs all the time.

Mondo

@magnusnet‌
1. Aldmeri only 7 Day campaign; 30 Day Ebon dominate
2. Personal i want change race i just will recreate my char

TehMagnus

Mondo wrote: »

@magnusnet‌
1. Aldmeri only 7 Day campaign; 30 Day Ebon dominate
2. Personal i want change race i just will recreate my char

in EU? EP never has permanent PVP buffs since we lost bow of shadows.

Soloeus

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

When are you going to allows us to pay for race changes? If you can't answer that then answer this: Do you have any plants, at all, to implement it this year or the next? Just asking cause I really want to change the race of my vet characters, and willing to throw away my money at ya zos.

Much prefer in-game options to change race/class, especially post "changes."

Don't prefer making it a "service."

philip.ploegerb16_ESO

Soloeus wrote: »

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

When are you going to allows us to pay for race changes? If you can't answer that then answer this: Do you have any plants, at all, to implement it this year or the next? Just asking cause I really want to change the race of my vet characters, and willing to throw away my money at ya zos.

Much prefer in-game options to change race/class, especially post "changes."

Don't prefer making it a "service."

I think it must be a service, because otherwise, people would i. e. change their race when they go tanking to nord, then they'd change to dark-elf before PvP, and to breton whenever they need to heal a.s.o.

MornaBaine

I don't agree with allowing class or race changes because these things have a definite effect on game mechanics. However, changing names, sex, and appearance should all be options as these do nothing to affect game mechanics. Zenimax would be pretty smart to make each of those a paid service.

As an only slightly related aside, I'd like to see each individual character have an option to change their hairstyle whenever they wanted. You would purchase additional hairstyles and once you had one (or more) you could choose to use that hairstyle rather than your regular one any time you wished. Ditto for haircolors.

OutlandishMachine

For all of you who are being complete spastics and saying that it's an issue that people want to change their races, let me start off by saying that it's really not. Look, I personally rolled an Imperial, but now I feel like an Altmer would be a better fit for my personality and playstyle. Some of you will undoubtedly say, "Just make a new character, and delete the one you don't want." I find this argument to be both unreasonable and unjustifiable. I personally (and every reasonable person I know) bond with my characters as I level, and once they are V14 I can't just delete them after everything I've done, as that would render all the time I spent on that character irrelevant. Therefore, I feel that a race change service would be just fine.

Zorrashi wrote: »

Regardless of the minimal or adequate amount of advantages given to the player via race passives, any amount of changing to optimize a build is what I view as leaning toward pay to win.

I don't feel that this is even a valid argument to make, as anybody is completely capable of creating a character with your definition of "overpowered", just by choosing the right race/class combination. A race change service won't make this pay to win, and I find it counter-intuitive that you think a race change to a different race will make everybody too overpowered and unbalance the workings of the game.

Iago wrote: »

If you dont like questing then the Elderacrolls games probably arent for you.

How this relates to the partiality of anybody to questing, I am absolutely mystified. Just because someone hasn't made a choice they are now happy with, it doesn't mean you should force them to redo a huge amount of time and dedication as opposed to simply continuing with life, albeit $20 poorer.

Also, I see people complaining about this being "lore breaking." You obviously haven't been paying very good attention. Look around, morons, there are humans fighting for the Dominion. ZOS broke alliance lore as soon as they allowed any humans to join the Aldmeri Dominion (It is actually lore viable that Altmer/Bosmer/Khajiit join the Pact or the Covenant. There are plenty of dissidents to the Dominion who simply leave, but I don't think that should have been included either, as you can't simply do one without the others.). I don't particularly like the fact that any race can join any alliance, but I feel like players should know well enough to not play a human in the Dominion. Its... not right, considering that the Dominion's aim is sorta to kill humans off and recreate the Dawn Era (please correct me if I'm wrong).

The only reason people want a race change service is so that they don't have to reroll a character all the way from level 1 to V14, and just because you people feel like the entire world revolves around you and your overinflated egos, it doesn't mean that they should have to.

Vorpal_Spork

Race changes should come with a name change as well for those of us who follow the racial naming conventions. An imperial is going to look silly with an argonian name. Runs-with-scissors the imperial should be able to change his name to something suitably Roman.

OrphanHelgen

Those who have been lucky with picking their race, are against.
Those who have been unlucky with picking their race, are supporting race change.

Tooltip sucks, no way any of you as a starting player actually knew how your race and class would be end game.

Vorpal_Spork

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

brandon wrote: »

Absolutely not! You do realize that it would be quicker to just make a new toon then it would be to wait for something that will never happen right? It breaks lore, makes it pay to win and in general is just a stupid design choice that sadly way to many mmos decide to implement.

Breaks lore? In two separate quest i can think of off the top of my head Razum-dar changes my race/sex and he ain't even a true mage. true they are just disguises but since i don't really care about the racials i only care about the look that is good enough for me. But still I'm sure ill hear more crying about how looking like something I'm not is now pay to win since people wont know what i am and that is a super secret advantage that destroys game balance.

It is a valid gameplay complaint though. People shouldn't have to guess whether that dark elf actually has fire resistance or not.

G0ku

OutlandishMachine wrote: »

For all of you who are being complete spastics

First words already disqualifies anything you say. You should not use a term for people with damage on spinal core / braincells as an insult if you want people to listen. Furthermore it´s major offending for affected or their relatives and extremely inappropriate.

Racechange was already announced so why bother necroing a thread....