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Race Change Service
tordr86b16_ESO
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When are you going to allows us to pay for race changes? If you can't answer that then answer this: Do you have any plants, at all, to implement it this year or the next? Just asking cause I really want to change the race of my vet characters, and willing to throw away my money at ya zos. 
Edited by tordr86b16_ESO on August 30, 2014 4:48PM 19
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Phantax✭✭✭✭✭
✭Have never liked or agreed with Race change facility, BUT... if people want it that's up to them.
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I'm a werewolf. If you vamps don't like it.... Bite me !
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smeeprocketnub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭No. And for RL money it's too much pay2win.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.11 -
MercyKilling✭✭✭✭✭No. Just because you now want to change to some FotM race is no reason to waste developer time on this.
Race, class and sex are things you pick during character creation and simply should not be able to change. Especially on a whim. Otherwise, why pick them in the first place? Why not just have some amorphous, androgynous lump that has all class and race abilities?I am not spending a single penny on the game until changes are made to the game that I want to see.
1) Remove having to be in a guild to sell items to other players at a kiosk.
2) Cosmetic modding for armor and clothing.
3) Difficulty slider.
4) Fully customizable player housing that isn't tied to anything in the game other than having the correct resources and enough gold to build. Don't tie it to PvP, guild membership, or anything at all. Oh, make it instanced so as not to take up world map space, too. Zeni screwed this one up already.
Any /one/ of these things implemented would get me spending again, maybe even subbing.12 -
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✭✭✭✭smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »No. And for RL money it's too much pay2win.
How exactly is it pay to win? And before you answer consider that if any race is so strong that selecting makes you 'win' or gives you such a large bonus it would be considered 'winning' then that race is obviously very broken and needs a nerf, or the others need a serious buff.5 -
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✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »No. And for RL money it's too much pay2win.
How exactly is it pay to win? And before you answer consider that if any race is so strong that selecting makes you 'win' or gives you such a large bonus it would be considered 'winning' then that race is obviously very broken and needs a nerf, or the others need a serious buff.
Oh well since you answered for me....
Some races synergize better with whatever FotM is out there at the moment. If you can pay to optimize your build in anyway, including changing your racial passives, it is pay to win.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.11 -
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✭Class, Gender, Race should never be changed. Char creation is important, letting people do this any time they want just makes the char creation worthless. Paying real money is for those free to play games and those pay to win games. Is there is a reason we pay the sub fee every month!
Also, letting change those aspects of one's char will destroy the RP aspect of the game as well. One has 8 char slots for a reason, if someone wants to change race, gender, class, just roll another alt.Edited by k9mouse on August 30, 2014 7:55PM16 -
AlexDougherty✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Have never liked or agreed with Race change facility, BUT... if people want it that's up to them.
Me neither, the only time I even consider it is when my last MMO released a new race, but I just rolled fresh characters instead.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
Wizard's first rule
Passion rules reason
Wizard's third rule
Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
Wizard's fifth rule
Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
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spoqster✭✭✭✭✭Height change would be good. It's hard to judge the height at character creation. I bet many people are feeling the same.9 -
dodgehopper_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I think the Champion system will help to get rid of differences between races. When I first envisioned my main character 'Dodge Hopper', I was torn between Redgard and Nord. Then I saw them release Imperial, and I saw that for once in the TES series I actually liked what Imperial had. I went for it. I'm still happy with that choice, but I must admit there's a part of me that envies Redgard and Nord from time to time, not that often though. The reality is, I intend to stick with this build. I realize that Magic is the fotm, and that Breton, Altmer or Dunmer are probably more favored. I'd probably rather the Champion system wash out the effects of race. That would be fantastic. Race should be a theme choice more than a power choice, particularly for end game. As for the issue of adjusting height, I'd actually like this as well. Its the one thing I got wrong on my main character... because he was the first and we couldn't actually see what was going on with the first character when the game started.US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
US/EP - Yngmar - Vet Nord Dragon Knight | US/EP - Reloth Ur Fyr - Vet Dunmer Sorcerer
US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
EU/DC - Wuthmir - Vet Nord Sorcerer | EU/DC - Kosh Ragotoro - Vet Khajiit Nightblade
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SaiJinu✭✭No change race please .. u just make an alt is easy and nice.
I got many alts max levels in other mmos4 -
FreedomDude✭✭✭So all those hours I spent in character creation is for nothing? If you rushed your character that's your own fault.8 -
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✭✭✭✭smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »No. And for RL money it's too much pay2win.
How exactly is it pay to win? And before you answer consider that if any race is so strong that selecting makes you 'win' or gives you such a large bonus it would be considered 'winning' then that race is obviously very broken and needs a nerf, or the others need a serious buff.
Oh well since you answered for me....
Some races synergize better with whatever FotM is out there at the moment. If you can pay to optimize your build in anyway, including changing your racial passives, it is pay to win.
Is the imperial edition pay to win for certain factions then? I mean some factions don't have access to some races. By paying for real cash for the option to use a race in a different faction! Isn't that pay to win?Edited by vyndral13preub18_ESO on August 31, 2014 2:55AM4 -
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✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »No. And for RL money it's too much pay2win.
How exactly is it pay to win? And before you answer consider that if any race is so strong that selecting makes you 'win' or gives you such a large bonus it would be considered 'winning' then that race is obviously very broken and needs a nerf, or the others need a serious buff.
Oh well since you answered for me....
Some races synergize better with whatever FotM is out there at the moment. If you can pay to optimize your build in anyway, including changing your racial passives, it is pay to win.
Is the imperial edition pay to win for certain factions then? I mean some factions don't have access to some races. By paying for real cash for the option to use a race in a different faction! Isn't that pay to win?
It's cosmetic and the imperial passives are daft compared to some other races.4 -
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✭✭✭✭tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »No. And for RL money it's too much pay2win.
How exactly is it pay to win? And before you answer consider that if any race is so strong that selecting makes you 'win' or gives you such a large bonus it would be considered 'winning' then that race is obviously very broken and needs a nerf, or the others need a serious buff.
Oh well since you answered for me....
Some races synergize better with whatever FotM is out there at the moment. If you can pay to optimize your build in anyway, including changing your racial passives, it is pay to win.
Is the imperial edition pay to win for certain factions then? I mean some factions don't have access to some races. By paying for real cash for the option to use a race in a different faction! Isn't that pay to win?
It's cosmetic and the imperial passives are daft compared to some other races.
Perhaps I got the name wrong. Was it the preorder then? That allows you to make any race in any faction? I suppose that wouldn't be so bad, the preorders didn't cost extra. I just win because I'm better then you because I signed up first.
But your point about the bonus being daft is actually void as well. Since they claim it is pay to win that in the future some class change might make a new race (like imperial) a better choice. The suddenly every wants to be one and only those paying win.Edited by vyndral13preub18_ESO on August 31, 2014 3:27AM1 -
Iago✭✭✭✭✭If you want a new race start a new character.That which we obtain to cheap we esteem to lightly, it is dearness only that gives everything its value.
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Belitseri✭✭✭I can understand wanting to change races for faction issues... In that case, I'm pro-faction change. Just keep the same race lol. I would like to change my templar's face though. A bit of creative plastic surgery never hurt anyone, right? lol3 -
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✭✭I think its hilarious how many people are suggesting "roll an alt" as a viable option if you wish to play a different race than what you originally chose.
Yeah, because I am totally going to re-do thousands of hours of character development and 7k achievement points.
And I have more time on my hands than most players I would think. If you work full time and have a family, or just have a busy life due to school or whatever, then yeah you aren't going to reroll to change something like race.
It has nothing to do with the power of the racials either, so don't play that card. it has to do with RP, and aesthetics.
I started my Templar as a Dunmer because I wanted to play a tribunal temple ordinator style holy warrior. But now I kind of want to play as a Breton or Imperial Knight type, and I am not going to throw away all those hours. I still love my Dunmer, so its not a big deal, but the point is, rerolling is a ridiculous suggestion to this query.
I assume ZOS likes to make money, considering all the cash grabbing they did pre-launch, so this feature would be a great way to make that happen. Also, being able to change names, appearance, or hair would be great.8 -
Iago✭✭✭✭✭I think its hilarious how many people are suggesting "roll an alt" as a viable option if you wish to play a different race than what you originally chose.
Yeah, because I am totally going to re-do thousands of hours of character development and 7k achievement points.
And I have more time on my hands than most players I would think. If you work full time and have a family, or just have a busy life due to school or whatever, then yeah you aren't going to reroll to change something like race.
It has nothing to do with the power of the racials either, so don't play that card. it has to do with RP, and aesthetics.
I started my Templar as a Dunmer because I wanted to play a tribunal temple ordinator style holy warrior. But now I kind of want to play as a Breton or Imperial Knight type, and I am not going to throw away all those hours. I still love my Dunmer, so its not a big deal, but the point is, rerolling is a ridiculous suggestion to this query.
I assume ZOS likes to make money, considering all the cash grabbing they did pre-launch, so this feature would be a great way to make that happen. Also, being able to change names, appearance, or hair would be great.
First off i doubt anyone has spent even a thousand hours on this game with the excepion of maybe the very first beta testers.
I /played today and ai have spent 22 days, 4 hours and some odd minutes playing. i am VR9 and have done all of the covenant and Dominion quests.
If you dont like questing then the Elderacrolls games probably arent for you.
That which we obtain to cheap we esteem to lightly, it is dearness only that gives everything its value.
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Wolfshead✭✭✭✭Ask for race change service that just show me how much Blizzard have infected mmo gender which all there "extra" service just so the can make extra money i honestly hope we wont see here in ESO for as many say you have have choose that race, class, factions and gender on your char for a reason and when you hit max lvl on vet rank people want to change everything honest live with the choose you have made just like you have to do in real life.
Blizzard use there "extra" service for the at start was again merge servers so instead of merge them the put change server for money so the don't have merge then add all the other service with name, race, factions, gender and move guilds to other factions or change server for guild as well for the know people will pay that in the end.If you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled; for you are in Elysium, and you're already deadWhat we do in life, echoes in eternity3 -
Marru✭✭Also, letting change those aspects of one's char will destroy the RP aspect of the game as well. One has 8 char slots for a reason, if someone wants to change race, gender, class, just roll another alt.
Yeah right, someone changing race, gender or name is affecting your RP? You are stalking other people for your RP? It's funny how this community is repeating immersion and RP all the time and everywhere.
So everyone who made the chars during the early access, when you couldn't even zoom should roll and alt because RP police is telling you so. Power Rangers are running through Tamriel, Nords are fighting for Dominium, but... race, name, gender changes of unknown to me player are ruining RP.
How making an alt is not ruining your RP but everything mentioned above is?
It is the same player, probably he can even make similar name but he will be using other race or gender? In the end it will be the same, without loosing progress, achievements, high Alliance rank.
Marru - v12 sorc, r21
Blood-Queen Marru - v14 nb, r19
Marek II Wielki - v6 dk, r11
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✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »Perhaps I got the name wrong. Was it the preorder then? That allows you to make any race in any faction? I suppose that wouldn't be so bad, the preorders didn't cost extra. I just win because I'm better then you because I signed up first.
But your point about the bonus being daft is actually void as well. Since they claim it is pay to win that in the future some class change might make a new race (like imperial) a better choice. The suddenly every wants to be one and only those paying win.
Wrong again, the imperial edition cost extra and no one else can buy the explorer pack which allows you to play any race in any faction. How this results to "i win button" is... just silly. All the racials are minor boosts, some of them being worse than the other.Edited by tordr86b16_ESO on August 31, 2014 2:03PM0 -
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✭✭tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »Perhaps I got the name wrong. Was it the preorder then? That allows you to make any race in any faction? I suppose that wouldn't be so bad, the preorders didn't cost extra. I just win because I'm better then you because I signed up first.
But your point about the bonus being daft is actually void as well. Since they claim it is pay to win that in the future some class change might make a new race (like imperial) a better choice. The suddenly every wants to be one and only those paying win.
Wrong again, the imperial edition cost extra and no one else can buy the explorer pack which allows you to play any race in any faction.
Um, I got the pre-order explorer's pack. I didn't buy the Imperial edition though, just the standard edition.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
Wizard's first rule
Passion rules reason
Wizard's third rule
Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
Wizard's fifth rule
Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
Wizard's tenth rule0 -
Zorrashi✭✭✭✭✭I will be against paid race changes till the day I die. Regardless of the minimal or adequate amount of advantages given to the player via race passives, any amount of changing to optimize a build is what I view as leaning toward pay to win. That seems to be the main reason many want to change their race--to min max and optimize.
Now if the race change was purely cosmetic....Ok, I might let that slide. Still kind of grinds on my principle that character creation should matter though. But its the passives that are my main concern.1 -
brandon✭✭✭✭Absolutely not! You do realize that it would be quicker to just make a new toon then it would be to wait for something that will never happen right? It breaks lore, makes it pay to win and in general is just a stupid design choice that sadly way to many mmos decide to implement.Edited by brandon on August 31, 2014 4:13PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »Perhaps I got the name wrong. Was it the preorder then? That allows you to make any race in any faction? I suppose that wouldn't be so bad, the preorders didn't cost extra. I just win because I'm better then you because I signed up first.
But your point about the bonus being daft is actually void as well. Since they claim it is pay to win that in the future some class change might make a new race (like imperial) a better choice. The suddenly every wants to be one and only those paying win.
Wrong again, the imperial edition cost extra and no one else can buy the explorer pack which allows you to play any race in any faction. How this results to "i win button" is... just silly. All the racials are minor boosts, some of them being worse than the other.
Which actually would make me right. If all the racials are minor boost and arent i win buttons then there is no 'pay to win' going on with a paid race change.0 -
killedbyping✭✭✭✭Absolutely not! You do realize that it would be quicker to just make a new toon then it would be to wait for something that will never happen right? It breaks lore, makes it pay to win and in general is just a stupid design choice that sadly way to many mmos decide to implement.
Pay to win what ? Its not like you paying to morth into non existing overpowered race. You just paying to have an character you would have if you knew abit more before you started your main.
I am ready to pay decent money to avoid another 20-40 hours of grind just to make my NightBalde Breton instead of Khajiit.
Also, we are restricted to 8 characters. Just roll another toon is not possible for every1.1 -
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✭✭✭✭Absolutely not! You do realize that it would be quicker to just make a new toon then it would be to wait for something that will never happen right? It breaks lore, makes it pay to win and in general is just a stupid design choice that sadly way to many mmos decide to implement.
Breaks lore? In two separate quest i can think of off the top of my head Razum-dar changes my race/sex and he ain't even a true mage. true they are just disguises but since i don't really care about the racials i only care about the look that is good enough for me. But still I'm sure ill hear more crying about how looking like something I'm not is now pay to win since people wont know what i am and that is a super secret advantage that destroys game balance.2
