Add children to ESO?

Malpherian

Yes, add them

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Malpherian wrote: »

cyclonus11 wrote: »

Killable children were removed from Skyrim for a reason. They couldn't sell the game in some parts of the world, since some countries ban depictions of violence against children.

And thats why us modders made the "Killable Children Patch". Because the governments policy can't stop Freeware, and people right to choose to download something of their own volition and will...

Don't worry Zenni and Beth, the Modders got your back, when Big Brother steps on it! Well come in and re-add what they made you remove

Yes, that was a really valuable effort there. Good for you. You made a mod that allowed people to slaughter children. What a great political statement. I'm sure Gandhi would be proud.

My 1,000,000+ Subscribers and over 300,000 Favorites say it was....... Just saying...

ndantony

Yes, add them

Hmm... maybe zos doesn't want you start killing children npc, giving the game bad image yet?? LOL

UnholyPerfection

No, don't add them

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Add children, make them killable.

I would even go so far as to suggest babies. That scream, and can be silenced.

I know you're trying to be funny but as a parent I find that sick.

Requiemslove

Yes, add them

I am with Hurbster on this. If a game based around doing all sorts of heinous acts WONT stoop to child killing, as in the GTA series, neither should ANY MMO. Or any kind of game for that matter. But I do feel they should be in ESO.

Requiemslove

Yes, add them

Malpherian wrote: »

Hurbster wrote: »

Oh yeah, the Daily Mail will just love this, I can imagine the headlines now...


"Sick internet game allows child murder".

First of all the game will get banned in Germany and Australia - and there will be a public outcry and possibly a governmental review as MPs jump on the latest controversy bandwagon. Millions will be wiped off Zenimax stock - the directors will not be happy. The game gets pulled while changes have to be made, but it's too late and sub numbers never recover and the game gets pulled before it can do Zenimax any more damage.

So, no I don't think this is a good idea.

Honestly I think that's a bit overdone. Australia and Germany will not ban any game rated M or "adult" for any reason regardless of content. They Ban games rated T for such content. ESO is rated M which inherently covers that type of content as a possibility in it's Genre and basis.

They didn't ban GTA 5. I seriously doubt they will ban ESO.

Only they had no child killing in GTA 5, I know having played it a lot recently.

isengrimb16_ESO

Where's the option for "add them, but only if we can shoot their snotty butts full of arrows"? If people want to kill cats, then I want to put an arrow in the butt of some snotty BRAT who mistakes me for a servant.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

Yes, add them

Malpherian wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Malpherian wrote: »

cyclonus11 wrote: »

Killable children were removed from Skyrim for a reason. They couldn't sell the game in some parts of the world, since some countries ban depictions of violence against children.

And thats why us modders made the "Killable Children Patch". Because the governments policy can't stop Freeware, and people right to choose to download something of their own volition and will...

Don't worry Zenni and Beth, the Modders got your back, when Big Brother steps on it! Well come in and re-add what they made you remove

Yes, that was a really valuable effort there. Good for you. You made a mod that allowed people to slaughter children. What a great political statement. I'm sure Gandhi would be proud.

My 1,000,000+ Subscribers and over 300,000 Favorites say it was....... Just saying...

omg, downloading that mod. So many times I've had children reveal me while sneaking in skyrim.

If we get children they must be killable. Otherwise I don't want them in the game.

Children are inherently evil creatures with questionable morals anyway.

No one is advocating killing real children, that would be screwed up. But imaginary children should be fair game.

UnholyPerfection wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Add children, make them killable.

I would even go so far as to suggest babies. That scream, and can be silenced.

I know you're trying to be funny but as a parent I find that sick.

funny? I was being serious. I can separate fantasy and reality just fine, like most people, and am capable of playing an imaginary sociopath while being a complete pacifist in real life.

tbh, the switch makes it more fun. If I was an awful human being in real life, I'd probably play good guys in games so that makes me question the motives of people who -don't- want killable kids.

Malpherian

Yes, add them

Requiemslove wrote: »

Malpherian wrote: »

Hurbster wrote: »

Oh yeah, the Daily Mail will just love this, I can imagine the headlines now...


"Sick internet game allows child murder".

First of all the game will get banned in Germany and Australia - and there will be a public outcry and possibly a governmental review as MPs jump on the latest controversy bandwagon. Millions will be wiped off Zenimax stock - the directors will not be happy. The game gets pulled while changes have to be made, but it's too late and sub numbers never recover and the game gets pulled before it can do Zenimax any more damage.

So, no I don't think this is a good idea.

Honestly I think that's a bit overdone. Australia and Germany will not ban any game rated M or "adult" for any reason regardless of content. They Ban games rated T for such content. ESO is rated M which inherently covers that type of content as a possibility in it's Genre and basis.

They didn't ban GTA 5. I seriously doubt they will ban ESO.

Only they had no child killing in GTA 5, I know having played it a lot recently.

true but is killing a child any worse then hiring a hooker then beating her repeatedly stealing her money and then capping her in the head while she tries to crawl away?

My point was that the supposed immorality of killing a child is no worse then what I just stated, which is possible in GTA 5. Not to mention in GTA 5 you can literally torcher people, cut their fingers off and smash them in the nuts while electrocuting them while they are tied to a chair. Is that any better?

I don't think so.

Crumpy

I enjoyed modding Skyrim so my vampire could adopt kids and have a nice bloodbank at home.

Tabbycat

Yes, add them

This isn't GTA 5.

DarkL88

Yes, add them

There are a lot of if's an but's, many valid, but I had a few thoughts as well!

Can I point out all 'friendly' NPC's are already invincible, you can't kill or attack guards, merchants, townsfolk as it is. There would be no justification to make children or any other introduced and allied NPC suddenly neutral (attackable)....

Just saying.

Also, what I'd love to see, is obviously cities full of children running around playing (to liven what are already rather livened up areas), and they could gather and follow you annoyingly around town in awe and wonder of your hero-esque epicness (made up words), and when you draw your weapon or turn to chase them they would flee! Possibly into hiding spaces/under buildings, behind closed doors, etc (adding to their already invincible goodness).

I'm sure that would get very annoying after the first few hours. But would still be amusing to see, and completely concievable. I can imagine there would be a few souls out there who would lose 10's of hours chasing them. Lemmings anyone?

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

Yes, add them

DarkL88 wrote: »

There are a lot of if's an but's, many valid, but I had a few thoughts as well!

Can I point out all 'friendly' NPC's are already invincible, you can't kill or attack guards, merchants, townsfolk as it is. There would be no justification to make children or any other introduced and allied NPC suddenly neutral (attackable)....

Just saying.

Also, what I'd love to see, is obviously cities full of children running around playing (to liven what are already rather livened up areas), and they could gather and follow you annoyingly around town in awe and wonder of your hero-esque epicness (made up words), and when you draw your weapon or turn to chase them they would flee! Possibly into hiding spaces/under buildings, behind closed doors, etc (adding to their already invincible goodness).

I'm sure that would get very annoying after the first few hours. But would still be amusing to see, and completely concievable. I can imagine there would be a few souls out there who would lose 10's of hours chasing them. Lemmings anyone?

Actually soon npcs will be killable, so it's a matter of asking for children we can treat as equals to other meaningless npcs.

Everything you said after that is awful. Unless I can actually kill them. I wouldn't even care what the bounty amounted to in that particular case.

Auralia

Yes, add them

A world without children just seems strange, invincible children is better than no children.

DarkL88

Yes, add them

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Actually soon npcs will be killable, so it's a matter of asking for children we can treat as equals to other meaningless npcs.

Everything you said after that is awful. Unless I can actually kill them. I wouldn't even care what the bounty amounted to in that particular case.

Eh really? Of course, that would make sense.. I forgot that I haven't read up entirely on the bounties just yet. On the to do list, thank you for the reminder!

Also, regarding the rest, I wasn't entirely serious.. The annoying factor would overwhelm. Although it isn't unimaginable that children would gather to see and gawk at the hero who saved the king/lady/town/invisible pink unicorn/etc. Was a thought just for the lols. ^^

Inversus

Yes, add them

DarkL88 wrote: »

Also, what I'd love to see, is obviously cities full of children running around playing (to liven what are already rather livened up areas), and they could gather and follow you annoyingly around town in awe and wonder of your hero-esque epicness (made up words), and when you draw your weapon or turn to chase them they would flee! Possibly into hiding spaces/under buildings, behind closed doors, etc (adding to their already invincible goodness).

I'm sure that would get very annoying after the first few hours. But would still be amusing to see, and completely concievable. I can imagine there would be a few souls out there who would lose 10's of hours chasing them. Lemmings anyone?

-runs into city to stop evil plot in sewers-
-children gather-
-goes to enter sewer-
-children block way-

the collision would be annoying sometimes but it's a good idea

Reiterpallasch

Yes, add them

It could definitely help add to the immersion for sure. I mean it's just weird that everyone everywhere is an adult (well, maybe not zone chat...).

The game could do well to have a lot more npcs and animals and such IMO.

starlizard70ub17_ESO

No, don't add them

No because as seen already in this thread, people will want to kill them and then the game will get banned in several countries.

Kreetar

Yes, add them

I wouldn't mind running some brats over when I'm in a foul mood.

Csub

It is just a game with pixel characters, if I can survive killing pixelwolves which I like, others can survive having people killing pixelkids too. Its not that you are a worse person if you do so. I played both Manhunt games for example, had fun in them but never murdered anyone in my life, nor do I plan to. Of course, the media would only see people killing kids.

Akula

No, don't add them

This is a terrible idea.

RedMiniStapler

I don't understand people wanting to kill pixel children for fun, and some saying it can be even therapeutic to act on their fantasy? wow... hmmm...
then why not got little further and ask zenimax to add brothels so you can pay for hookers? and don't have gold for hookers? well then that's what *** is for, I mean, it's only crime against pixel beings, right? as long as you're a decent human being in rl, you can be as horrible as you want in game.

demonlkojipub19_ESO

People, only killing pixel adults and pixel animals that no one cares about is tolerable in todays world. anything else is bad! so very bad!..... just cause.

Cyberdown

No, don't add them

100% a waste of development resources.

Will add nothing to the game, other than making a few die hard immersion people happy....and [snip] I guess.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Inappropriate Content.]

nightwalkerrobin_ESO

Yes, add them

My only exception is that they must be unattackable. In my opinion this is not negotiable as allowing them to be attackable will only bring bad issues with both players and non-players.

Elsonso

Yes, add them

Yeah, I can't see any reason for children to be combat targets.

dustin61

Yes, add them

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Add children, make them killable.

I would even go so far as to suggest babies. That scream, and can be silenced.

Tapio75

Yes, add them

Yes add them to bring life to Tamriel.

Yes make them invincible.
after that make most NPC's go sleep and shops change personnel for the nights.

Beerbill

Yes, add them

I'd love to see children in the game.

Also always hated the invincible ones in Skyrim, not that I enjoyed killing them but that is just ridiculous when a city is begin attacked and everybody is dead and the children are walking peacefully over pools of blood and dead bodies like nothing had happened.

So if they cannot be killed at least make they run to the hills idk...

Thus i have no problem in they begin killable.

jelliedsoup

For anyone who thinks killing children is acceptable in a game, where would you draw the line on what isn't acceptable?

Venereous44

Kids would be cool.. and I have no issues if they're killable. The coolest NPC in Skyrim was the little vampire girl... so she was killed as part of the story line and came back as undead... it worked. There were several child ghosts too in quests where they died... it was just part of fantasy.

If they did this, I think maybe 2x or 4x a justice penalty would be in order? Or how about a special badge of notoriety for you PC to go after.... you know you would love that.