Add children to ESO?

Beerbill

Yes, add them

badmojo0777b14_ESO wrote: »

im looking for the "who cares" option, on the poll. so trivial, too many other important issues to be concerned with

Actually there is the "x" button on the browser
If you don't want to add anything in the subject don't feel forced to.

Mathius_Mordred

Yes, add them

Of course it would hand the gaming industry to the media sharks on a silver platter, can you imagine what the tabloids would do with it?

Why anyone would feel the need to kill a child either IRL or in a game is beyond me thankfully and what's more I don't want to know.

I play my character as I did in Skyrim as an existential self, I play the game as I would if it were really me and my character makes decisions accordingly, so when the quest offered the choice of saving the girl or gaining 2 skill points the decision was easy. I also avoid animals in the wild, I see no need to senselessly slaughter a tiger or a wolf if they are not an immediate threat.

Of course we are all different and I wouldn't expect anyone else to want to play as I do, however some things are just taboo and should remain so IMHO, adding killable children to this game would be overstepping a cultural and moral threshold that I could not sanction by continuing to sub.

Moonshadow66

No, don't add them

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

Of course it would hand the gaming industry to the media sharks on a silver platter, can you imagine what the tabloids would do with it?

Why anyone would feel the need to kill a child either IRL or in a game is beyond me thankfully and what's more I don't want to know.

I play my character as I did in Skyrim as an existential self, I play the game as I would if it were really me and my character makes decisions accordingly, so when the quest offered the choice of saving the girl or gaining 2 skill points the decision was easy. I also avoid animals in the wild, I see no need to senselessly slaughter a tiger or a wolf if they are not an immediate threat.

Of course we are all different and I wouldn't expect anyone else to want to play as I do, however some things are just taboo and should remain so IMHO, adding killable children to this game would be overstepping a cultural and moral threshold that I could not sanction by continuing to sub.

That's how I decided, too, with all my characters which have done this quest already. As much as I'd like to get more skillpoints, but in this case I've chosen the other way.

And about the animals in the wild, I don't like to kill them either, only when I get attacked if I got too close (I mostly try not to).
Sometimes I even see players raging around killing the level1 animals like deers or guars, just all these harmless ones. I really don't get it, I mean, besides of their lack of sensitivity, empathy and compassion, there's not even any xp to earn from that, so for this being a game where we gain xp, it's even more senseless then.

I remember one time I was watching the three gorgeous Bantam Guars sitting on (and infront of) a mushroom outside of Ebonheart, when some stupid girlie with a two-hander came along and killed everything around in one go. Right infront of my eyes. The three Bantam Guars dead, all Guars and Pony Guars around dead, it was just a path of destruction. Some might say that this is "just a game", but I really thought about how someone could be so cruel.

With killable children added to the game, I see that coming again, in every corner of every town. Like I wrote before, then I'll be gone for sure. Too.

daneyulebub17_ESO

Yes, add them

Add 'em. And definitely make 'em invincible--like so many other NPCs will be when they're deemed too important to kill.

Done.

That fixes the jarring and immersion breaking (to some, at least) sight of villages and cities without a single child in them. And by making them non-killable, it prevents the problems one would encounter in some countries with games that allow children to be killed.

By the way, an "M" rating doesn't mean no holds barred in terms of gore and allowed behavior. People need to quit citing that rating as if it meant anything and everything "must" be allowed.

Just as the game designers make UI and story choices, they will also, necessarily, put constraints on what is and isn't possible as part of their vision of what the game world should be. Excessive gore, nudity, sex, and the killing of babies and children are all fair game for things that don't fit in this vision. They certainly don't fit into mine.

AlexDougherty

Yes, add them

Raygee wrote: »

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Ashtaris wrote: »

So you want to add the possibility of murdering children in the game to improve realism eh? I'm sorry, but the Sandy Hook and Norway shootings were realistic enough for me. I voted NO!!!

Nope, about half of us who voted yes want them unkillable.
I'm one of the ones who want unkillable children playing in the streets.

I'd like to see that, too. But it would be good if their parents (if they'd have any) would be unkillable as well.
I voted "no" because of the reasons of the OP...

Well I get where you are coming from, no broken families and orphans struggling to survive (by which I mean everyone is ok). I think a few orphans being looked after by priests (and priestesses) and Monks (I think in Tamriel female equivalent is still monk) might be ok though, after all it is war.

But yeah, the idea for some of us is to see the kids basically unharmed and managing to play no matter what (Hope springs eternal and all that).

As long as no players make them orphans on purpose, a few orphans would be ok (like in Skyrim f.e.), yes. So basically whole families (and the priests and monks who look after them) shouldn't be killable.

Agreed.

global_gbb16_ESO

For the comedy factor, not only would I make kids "unkillable" but give them "instakill" or "WTF" level damage for any unsuspecting would be child killer.

Karnus

The game already has children in it, just read zone chat.

Sebastian102

Yes, add them

People seem to assume that killing children is and always has been a crime, however in the ancient Roman Empire children was not even viewed as human beings until a certain age (think it was around 10-12).

Also until the children had reached this age the father had the right to kill his children, interfering would thus be a violation of that father’s right and it would be one self that would be the criminal.

AlexDougherty

Yes, add them

Sebastian102 wrote: »

People seem to assume that killing children is and always has been a crime, however in the ancient Roman Empire children was not even viewed as human beings until a certain age (think it was around 10-12).

Also until the children had reached this age the father had the right to kill his children, interfering would thus be a violation of that father’s right and it would be one self that would be the criminal.

No, we don't assume killing children was always a crime, we don't assume killing anyone was always a crime.

The issue is modern morality, we don't live in ancient times, and the game is set in a different universe, so the moralities of ancient cultures is irrelevant. Even if the cultures in the game are based on those ancient cultures/civilisations.

Just make the children immortal, and give them a one hit kill for anyone who thinks attacking children is fun, and problem is gone.

Blud

Yes, add them

Tabbycat wrote: »

Add children yes. Make them invincible.

I agree.

Jules

No, don't add them

I only chose no bc adding children with the sole interest of killing them is creepy. Yes to adding children if they're invincible.

Saturn

Yes, add them

Inversus wrote: »

Skyrim had (unfortunately invincible) children, and it feels like something's missing in ESO
With the upcoming update (aka the justice system) I'd love to be able to include children NPCs in my rampages (the game's already rated mature, so this wouldn't be much of an issue) - perhaps they could even add extra bounty

I agree that children are missing from the game, but what the **** is up with your lust for murdering children??

RazzPitazz

Yes, add them

Yes add children of all races.
Yea make them invincible.
Do not allow them to accrue bounty on the character, instead give them dialogue to refer to your acts when you shOw up again.
If you truly think any game developer would allow the willful murdering of children, go ask Rockstar games why they haven't included kids in their games?

lecarcajou_ESO

I never, while playing the game, looked around and thought to myself, "Where are the kids?" That said, the whole debate that's going on now about whether any children in ESO should be killable or whatnot (personally, I think they should be, with severe consequences for the perpetrator*) makes me think it's one of those things that we should just forget about and put to rest... who needs another headache?

* (As I suggested elsewhere: first off, a title like, say, "Child Murderer" that can't be turned off or hidden for a long, long time. Secondly, the perpetrator should become attackable not only by the guards, but by other players, as well. Oh, and maybe also an automated zone-wide announcement whenever they show up anywhere...)

"Eight-year old, dude."

lecarcajou_ESO

Malpherian wrote: »

This game is rated M not Teen. If you can't handle an adult game go play world of warcraft.

That's an interesting comment, by the way, considering Blizzard had "killable" children back in Warcraft III.

leshpar

Yes, add them

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Only if they do it right and add khajiit/argonian/elf children this time around.

This a thousand fold. I liked the fact there were kids in skyrim, but they were only nord kids. I wanna see a little hatchling argonian or cub khajiit running around as well as young elves.

Also, please let them be killable. Make the bounty for killing kids higher if you'd like, but they should not be invincible unless they are quest givers.

lecarcajou_ESO

Hey, I just had an idea... children should be—wait for it—craftable!

Think of the possibilities... "You gained the Jackrabbit skill line."

Davadin

Yes, add them

Lynx7386 wrote: »

There will already be unkillable NPCs in the game once the justice system goes in - bankers and other important vendors and NPCs will be excluded from murder to prevent abuse.

Unkillable children would fit right in. Saying that adding them but not making them killable is a 'game killer' just shows how mentally damaged you are.

There are NPCs in the game that flirt with you, do you also want little girls running around coming onto your character? Or maybe you'd also like to see child soldiers in cyrodiil? Maybe next we can also add parent NPCs getting drunk and beating their children to death?

You can say it's "not real" all you want, but the fact is that sensitive moral situations like this are -always- left out of games because of the implications they can have on the game's developers in the real world. Adding killable children essentially says that zenimax (and/or bethesda) support violence against children. It will never happen.

Agree!

now can you please vote? lol

Sausage

No, don't add them

I think beggars and plagued/injured would fit better to ES. I dont know any game what does that. Or maybe they should add kids and families to big cities, and maybe beggars, and plagued and injured to the country side. I really dont want to see this turning into Final Fantasy, Asian Fantasy, where family values are high.

Lenikus

Yes, add them

Just give the children a 100% Dodge chance. That's it. Lore friendly and realistic. them kids be tricky anyways.

PBpsy

No, don't add them

No we have already to much unnecessary useless crap in this game.They should work on more important stuff for at least the next 3 years.

NadiusMaximus

No, don't add them

Is enchanting done?
Jewelry crafting?
Spellcrafting?
Are all the known bugs fixed?

This should be the last thing done ever.