Pixysticks wrote: »
I actually like Brandon, he's a good guy, and no one can really say for sure if EG is doing it intentionally. But no one can deny that they are causing the server to lag and sometimes crash by standing in a ball outside of a keep and spamming healing springs for a minute straight before they rush in and throw themselves on the flag.
Everyone thinks you guys are doing it intentionally because you continue doing it even after seeing how it effects the server. If you guys are somehow still ignorant of the fact that you're the ones causing the lag when you do this, then please stop it.
I would also like to shed some light that EG hosts the Pugs raids, but the raids themselves are a healthy mix of guild members and random people they pick up from their zone spam. Last night I had 15 or so non-EG in my raid.
So how is this any different than EP, AD, or DC pug raids doing the same thing? Is voice comm. the difference between "organized" PvP and Tunnel Vision raids that "Fight in mid (WoW speak)?" Are you going to tell me there aren't EP and AD pugs that do the same things? There are common strats out there for pugs, and every alliance uses them. You stack at the stairs, charge your ultimates, and run in on the flag. EG is not the sole perp of this tactic, when they use it.
Again I am just trying to be controversial instead of just getting defensive. I don't even have Pulsar or Healing Springs on any of my bars. When previous posters pigeon hole EG the way they have, it's implying intent. And I don't think Brandon or any of the leading officers in EG have intent to crash the server to win.
I don't think it's fair to discriminate against a guild that is open to all players of every skill level, and that brings content to you guys (PvP). It's understandable you can't enjoy that content if you are crashing out, but are we now expected to police ourselves in AvA and make rules like
1) Only 30 people allowed within 100 meters at any time
2) No more than 10 people are allowed to cast AOE spells?
I mean, come one. That's a bit unrealistic. We play on a crowded campaign with a lot of spell casters. I have zero tolerance for cheaters and exploiters, but I don't think this community needs to be at each other's throats over ZOS's limitations. A better avenue would be to address the crashing issues with ZOS. Disable Ultimates in Cyrodiil then...WoW disables long cooldown abilities in Rated game play....and ultimates ARE essentially abilities with a long cool down.
At the end of the game you're supposed to shake the other team's hand, ostracizing them and maybe even getting them upset to the point of quitting only hurts the ESO community/campaign in losing numbers. I don't want any of you to quit because I live for PvP and I love this game. But I would imagine in a game where the PvP is large scale like this, then ZOS would have the responsibility to make sure the servers can support hundred of players (all of them being spell casters to some extent).
my mentality is go where we're severely outnumbered...this is no longer the case on chillPixysticks wrote: »No clue who is where anymore, but at least No Mercy like to be on the server where the competition is. Props, wish everyone had that mentality so good fights would continue to happen.
Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
I wish ZOS would just give them their own server with bots to play against, then they can crash it to their heart's content. Bet they wouldn't even notice the difference.Pathfinder wrote: »After last night's crash I just about had enough of Chillrend. Logged into Chill this morning saw it was all Blue, said **** it and went to Haderus. I realllly wish EG would go back to Thorn, they're more trouble than they're worth.
Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »I wish ZOS would just give them their own server with bots to play against, then they can crash it to their heart's content. Bet they wouldn't even notice the difference.Pathfinder wrote: »After last night's crash I just about had enough of Chillrend. Logged into Chill this morning saw it was all Blue, said **** it and went to Haderus. I realllly wish EG would go back to Thorn, they're more trouble than they're worth.
EGL doesnt purposefully crash the server guys, they just accidentally spam healing springs in a 3m area with half our pop cap until the server crashes by itself, take off your tinfoil hats come on
also, EP is super horribad they *** talk about how they just zerged you with 50 guys and only lost half. AD is a bunch of cheaters and exploiters who can only take things overnight....umm what else...DC IS THE BEST but they have tht one group who tries to crash the server...7...Guy_Hawksley wrote: »So close to 40 pages guys... You can do it!!!
Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »also, EP is super horribad they *** talk about how they just zerged you with 50 guys and only lost half. AD is a bunch of cheaters and exploiters who can only take things overnight....umm what else...DC IS THE BEST but they have tht one group who tries to crash the server...7...Guy_Hawksley wrote: »So close to 40 pages guys... You can do it!!!
nope they're the worst, all they do is run around with their fire ring+batswarm (seriously nerf that ***). is every AD an op DK w/ 30 flaming oils who does nothing but sit in corners? all they can do is nightcap the map with their oceanic zerg. furthermore, AOE CAPSBrandeospeedwagon wrote: »also, EP is super horribad they *** talk about how they just zerged you with 50 guys and only lost half. AD is a bunch of cheaters and exploiters who can only take things overnight....umm what else...DC IS THE BEST but they have tht one group who tries to crash the server...7...Guy_Hawksley wrote: »So close to 40 pages guys... You can do it!!!
You're kidding about ad right
Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »nope they're the worst, all they do is run around with their fire ring+batswarm (seriously nerf that ***). is every AD an op DK w/ 30 flaming oils who does nothing but sit in corners? all they can do is nightcap the map with their oceanic zerg. furthermore, AOE CAPSBrandeospeedwagon wrote: »also, EP is super horribad they *** talk about how they just zerged you with 50 guys and only lost half. AD is a bunch of cheaters and exploiters who can only take things overnight....umm what else...DC IS THE BEST but they have tht one group who tries to crash the server...7...Guy_Hawksley wrote: »So close to 40 pages guys... You can do it!!!
You're kidding about ad right
All of those guilds are terrible, I could solo 15 players from any. I know for a fact that AD reps have traveled to Oceania to create their titanic monstrosity of a zerg.Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »nope they're the worst, all they do is run around with their fire ring+batswarm (seriously nerf that ***). is every AD an op DK w/ 30 flaming oils who does nothing but sit in corners? all they can do is nightcap the map with their oceanic zerg. furthermore, AOE CAPSBrandeospeedwagon wrote: »also, EP is super horribad they *** talk about how they just zerged you with 50 guys and only lost half. AD is a bunch of cheaters and exploiters who can only take things overnight....umm what else...DC IS THE BEST but they have tht one group who tries to crash the server...7...Guy_Hawksley wrote: »So close to 40 pages guys... You can do it!!!
You're kidding about ad right
How is that exploiting?
Also i can't control the ad oceanic crew i didn't even knew they cane over. It's a *** to deal with i know. AD has dealt with the oceanic reds prior and the blue that caps during the normal work hours. Is rather them not be here but flat out calling every ad player bad when you know this is not true as we have tko decible dig anda few other add prime time guilds out there that are skilled is rather insulting.
Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »All of those guilds are terrible, I could solo 15 players from any. I know for a fact that AD reps have traveled to Oceania to create their titanic monstrosity of a zerg.Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »nope they're the worst, all they do is run around with their fire ring+batswarm (seriously nerf that ***). is every AD an op DK w/ 30 flaming oils who does nothing but sit in corners? all they can do is nightcap the map with their oceanic zerg. furthermore, AOE CAPSBrandeospeedwagon wrote: »also, EP is super horribad they *** talk about how they just zerged you with 50 guys and only lost half. AD is a bunch of cheaters and exploiters who can only take things overnight....umm what else...DC IS THE BEST but they have tht one group who tries to crash the server...7...Guy_Hawksley wrote: »So close to 40 pages guys... You can do it!!!
You're kidding about ad right
How is that exploiting?
Also i can't control the ad oceanic crew i didn't even knew they cane over. It's a *** to deal with i know. AD has dealt with the oceanic reds prior and the blue that caps during the normal work hours. Is rather them not be here but flat out calling every ad player bad when you know this is not true as we have tko decible dig anda few other add prime time guilds out there that are skilled is rather insulting.
Sallington wrote: »I'm trying to get caught up on the conversation here.
Are people saying that charging ultimates is the same thing as trying to crash a server?