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Nala_

Lfehova wrote: »

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

Hovaling is only worth 3 AP now.. stop dying so we can farm you more

I'd be worth more AP if you weren't in a group of 60 scrubs.

Aoe_Barbecue

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

60? Heh, funny, we wiped your full group with 5 yesterday.

Hell, Alacrity steamrolled you guys when you had 40 with 8 people.

This is where I know 100% you are either trolling or functionally ***. No Mercy has never run with 40 ... ever. Getting over 20 is unusually large, actually. Also, you did no such wiping with any such numbers; this is a flat out fabrication.

I detect that you may be a bit frustrated, however. Please:

Huntler

Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

60? Heh, funny, we wiped your full group with 5 yesterday.

Hell, Alacrity steamrolled you guys when you had 40 with 8 people.

This is where I know 100% you are either trolling or functionally ***. No Mercy has never run with 40 ... ever. Getting over 20 is unusually large, actually. Also, you did no such wiping with any such numbers; this is a flat out fabrication.

I detect that you may be a bit frustrated, however. Please:

reported.

Aoe_Barbecue

Pixysticks wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

And my comments were along the lines of "damn, man, can you stack anymore shields or spam impulse any faster?"
and I replied something to the effect of "if you're the same pixy from the forums, then you're a hypocrite for all the aoe/batswarm spam and vamp exploits you cheeseballs are doing"

I don't know, to me you just sounded really mad, which is why I think it was so funny that you actually said, "I stated that I was happy with the results of that group fight".

EvilEmpire

Pixysticks wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

First of all, I can spell hypocrite

You most definitely can not.

EvilEmpire wrote: »

And my comments were along the lines of "damn, man, can you stack anymore shields or spam impulse any faster?"
and I replied something to the effect of "if you're the same pixy from the forums, then you're a hypocrite for all the aoe/batswarm spam and vamp exploits you cheeseballs are doing"

I don't know, to me you just sounded really mad, which is why I think it was so funny that you actually said, "I stated that I was happy with the results of that group fight".

ahh, well, I used "i" instead of "y" in my drunken stupor, but it was most certainly not "hippokrits" as you said, so I was wrong there. By all means, post the rest of it in screenshots because at this point, I didn't say anything close to what you said I did, so go ahead and get it out there. I've been upfront, and explained why I said why I felt at least one person was using shield stacking or vamp exploit (the CLS log in earlier post).


You said I said:
"You guys are cheating and abusing vampire bug that makes you invulnerable"
"You guys are exploiting shield stacking and purge abusers"
"You guys are cheeseball blob aoe spammers that batswarm run in circles you are a bunch of hippokrits"

So please, show us all the whole conversation and we can see if I said anything like that.

And my comment about being happy with the outcome of the fight is earlier in this thread where I say "It's cool though, I got my kills in vs you guys."

Nala_

EvilEmpire wrote: »

Pixysticks wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

First of all, I can spell hypocrite

You most definitely can not.

EvilEmpire wrote: »

And my comments were along the lines of "damn, man, can you stack anymore shields or spam impulse any faster?"
and I replied something to the effect of "if you're the same pixy from the forums, then you're a hypocrite for all the aoe/batswarm spam and vamp exploits you cheeseballs are doing"

I don't know, to me you just sounded really mad, which is why I think it was so funny that you actually said, "I stated that I was happy with the results of that group fight".

ahh, well, I used "i" instead of "y" in my drunken stupor, but it was most certainly not "hippokrits" as you said, so I was wrong there. By all means, post the rest of it in screenshots because at this point, I didn't say anything close to what you said I did, so go ahead and get it out there. I've been upfront, and explained why I said why I felt at least one person was using shield stacking or vamp exploit (the CLS log in earlier post).


You said I said:
"You guys are cheating and abusing vampire bug that makes you invulnerable"
"You guys are exploiting shield stacking and purge abusers"
"You guys are cheeseball blob aoe spammers that batswarm run in circles you are a bunch of hippokrits"

So please, show us all the whole conversation and we can see if I said anything like that.

And my comment about being happy with the outcome of the fight is earlier in this thread where I say "It's cool though, I got my kills in vs you guys."

you did say that stuff though, just on the forums not in the screenshot lol.... i think you may be drunk now or just confusing yourself

Pixysticks

EvilEmpire wrote: »

And my comment about being happy with the outcome of the fight is earlier in this thread where I say "It's cool though, I got my kills in vs you guys."

And that's why I said I thought it was funny after all the rage you demonstrated in tells to me personally, and then on the forums towards us afterwards, that you would say you were "Happy with the outcome of the fight", lol.

GRxKnight

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Blues are the new reds. At least the

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

jaebdub wrote: »

To that one DC guild,

This is why we left Thornblade. Do not bring the crashes to Chillrend. Notice that it only happens when you are in a campaign.

Its because of AOE caps that its happening, Don't kid yourself to think its only EG that causes the problem...I can tell pretty much whenever there is a zerg ball in the area because it bloody lags everything.

EG though does have the problem of being so massive that it will crash the server..

But its 100% the AOE caps fault this is happening, Remove the AOE caps and the first time EG got wiped because they stacked..They wouldn't do it again.

EG's group uses healing springs to crash the server when they can't take something or are about to lose something.

Lfehova wrote: »

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

Hovaling is only worth 3 AP now.. stop dying so we can farm you more

I'd be worth more AP if you weren't in a group of 60 scrubs.

60? Heh, funny, we wiped your full group with 5 yesterday.

Hell, Alacrity steamrolled you guys when you had 40 with 8 people.

And TSym has failed on several occasions to wipe TKO when TKO has been outnumbered at least 2.5:1. What makes it even better is that, according to the "leader" (not that hard to lead a zerg of reds in a straight line and tell them to spam impulse), TKO's leader is the baddie in that situation.

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

Currently there is 100% a green alliance of some form. Not all guilds are participating in it, but there is 100% some sort of AD/DC alliance. Not even the dumbest pug would push EP when DC has the majority of the map.

The reason is simply because of what red did on the last iteration of the campaign. They will continue to get pushed and farmed day in and day out regardless of the map because they're viewed as easy AP. Sure when we want a real fight and a real challenge blue and yellow will bang heads but we'll mostly farm reds.

"Easy AP" you need a green alliance to kill us.

TKO wiped TSym with the shield stacking infinite magicka exploit.

Does TSym still play? Haven't seen them around...and yes I'm sure every time they get wiped it's b/c of some sort of exploit/bug/cheap tactic, not b/c they got beat

They were wiped to the shield stacking infinite magicka exploit by TKO. Stop denying it.

Ummm...no TSym gets wiped by TKO (and every other guild apparently) because they're bad and fail to adapt at what is thrown at them. Nice try trying to come up with an excuse of shield stacking and throwing the "exploit" tag on it when it isn't even an exploit. I guess saying that you guys are bad is a hard thing to do, but we all know the truth.

When I found out who your leader was I got a laugh because he was streaming your self proclaimed "best guild in open field tactics" on twitch and they were a far cry from impressive. First off, you have 30+ playing "follow the leader", aka, mindless zerging, throughout the battlefield (it looked like the retro game snake actually). Once we saw this (and mind you your tactics work against pugs so kudos there, but against a REAL group they don't) we immediately decided to hit your "tail" and wipe you from the back. The best part was tuning in to the stream and hearing your leader say that the person running the TKO group at that time was bad; and this was immediately after we wiped you three times. He tried explaining on stream to us that he wiped us just as much. I guess I wasn't aware that TKO also includes the unorganized pugs that were leeching our AP.

Also as a side note I've seen that TSym has left to go play arch-age. Guess they need to go play something a little bit more basic than ESO. Apparently it's too hard for them to spam immovable and impulse/healing springs.

Makkir

Lfehova wrote: »

Well chillrend triple pop locked yesterday so I guess unintentionally we forced the DC and AD from thorn to chillrend. At least there was a lot of massive fights going on all over the map.

I'd rather see pop locks than 1 bars.

If anything, we brought more PvP to this campaign. I don't know why people are complaining about "unfair fights." It really makes tickle.

Makkir

Pixysticks wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

because your aoe spam blob does cause plenty of lag and crashes and skill locks.

This guy, lol.

He just admitted in the prior post he has a horrible internet connection. So in AvA we should all use non-particle effects and stop large scale PvP so his computer doesn't crash out.

Secondly, he states he is a solo target stamina build which in AvA translates to worthless.

Agrippa_Invisus

Makkir wrote: »

Lfehova wrote: »

Well chillrend triple pop locked yesterday so I guess unintentionally we forced the DC and AD from thorn to chillrend. At least there was a lot of massive fights going on all over the map.

I am in Eminent Gaming

My deepest condolences.

ShadoPanauin

GRxKnight wrote: »

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Blues are the new reds. At least the

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

jaebdub wrote: »

To that one DC guild,

This is why we left Thornblade. Do not bring the crashes to Chillrend. Notice that it only happens when you are in a campaign.

Its because of AOE caps that its happening, Don't kid yourself to think its only EG that causes the problem...I can tell pretty much whenever there is a zerg ball in the area because it bloody lags everything.

EG though does have the problem of being so massive that it will crash the server..

But its 100% the AOE caps fault this is happening, Remove the AOE caps and the first time EG got wiped because they stacked..They wouldn't do it again.

EG's group uses healing springs to crash the server when they can't take something or are about to lose something.

Lfehova wrote: »

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

Hovaling is only worth 3 AP now.. stop dying so we can farm you more

I'd be worth more AP if you weren't in a group of 60 scrubs.

60? Heh, funny, we wiped your full group with 5 yesterday.

Hell, Alacrity steamrolled you guys when you had 40 with 8 people.

And TSym has failed on several occasions to wipe TKO when TKO has been outnumbered at least 2.5:1. What makes it even better is that, according to the "leader" (not that hard to lead a zerg of reds in a straight line and tell them to spam impulse), TKO's leader is the baddie in that situation.

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

Currently there is 100% a green alliance of some form. Not all guilds are participating in it, but there is 100% some sort of AD/DC alliance. Not even the dumbest pug would push EP when DC has the majority of the map.

The reason is simply because of what red did on the last iteration of the campaign. They will continue to get pushed and farmed day in and day out regardless of the map because they're viewed as easy AP. Sure when we want a real fight and a real challenge blue and yellow will bang heads but we'll mostly farm reds.

"Easy AP" you need a green alliance to kill us.

TKO wiped TSym with the shield stacking infinite magicka exploit.

Does TSym still play? Haven't seen them around...and yes I'm sure every time they get wiped it's b/c of some sort of exploit/bug/cheap tactic, not b/c they got beat

They were wiped to the shield stacking infinite magicka exploit by TKO. Stop denying it.

Ummm...no TSym gets wiped by TKO (and every other guild apparently) because they're bad and fail to adapt at what is thrown at them. Nice try trying to come up with an excuse of shield stacking and throwing the "exploit" tag on it when it isn't even an exploit. I guess saying that you guys are bad is a hard thing to do, but we all know the truth.

When I found out who your leader was I got a laugh because he was streaming your self proclaimed "best guild in open field tactics" on twitch and they were a far cry from impressive. First off, you have 30+ playing "follow the leader", aka, mindless zerging, throughout the battlefield (it looked like the retro game snake actually). Once we saw this (and mind you your tactics work against pugs so kudos there, but against a REAL group they don't) we immediately decided to hit your "tail" and wipe you from the back. The best part was tuning in to the stream and hearing your leader say that the person running the TKO group at that time was bad; and this was immediately after we wiped you three times. He tried explaining on stream to us that he wiped us just as much. I guess I wasn't aware that TKO also includes the unorganized pugs that were leeching our AP.

Also as a side note I've seen that TSym has left to go play arch-age. Guess they need to go play something a little bit more basic than ESO. Apparently it's too hard for them to spam immovable and impulse/healing springs.

Harness magicka + shield stacking = infinite magicka. Exploit.

Makkir

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Makkir wrote: »

Lfehova wrote: »

Well chillrend triple pop locked yesterday so I guess unintentionally we forced the DC and AD from thorn to chillrend. At least there was a lot of massive fights going on all over the map.

I am in Eminent Gaming

My deepest condolences.

Why? I am married, two kids, full time career, and don't have a lot of time. With EG I can jump in Teamspeak, play for an hour, and log out again without having to spend time finding an organized group for PvP. If anything, they've brought content to me that would be hard for me to find otherwise.

Agrippa_Invisus

Makkir wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Makkir wrote: »

Lfehova wrote: »

Well chillrend triple pop locked yesterday so I guess unintentionally we forced the DC and AD from thorn to chillrend. At least there was a lot of massive fights going on all over the map.

I am in Eminent Gaming

My deepest condolences.

Why? I am married, two kids, full time career, and don't have a lot of time. With EG I can jump in Teamspeak, play for an hour, and log out again without having to spend time finding an organized group for PvP. If anything, they've brought content to me that would be hard for me to find otherwise.

"ESO has stopped responding..." error messages?

Makkir

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

Harness magicka + shield stacking = infinite magicka. Exploit.

I don't think you know what an exploit is

Pixysticks

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Makkir wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Makkir wrote: »

Lfehova wrote: »

Well chillrend triple pop locked yesterday so I guess unintentionally we forced the DC and AD from thorn to chillrend. At least there was a lot of massive fights going on all over the map.

I am in Eminent Gaming

My deepest condolences.

Why? I am married, two kids, full time career, and don't have a lot of time. With EG I can jump in Teamspeak, play for an hour, and log out again without having to spend time finding an organized group for PvP. If anything, they've brought content to me that would be hard for me to find otherwise.

"ESO has stopped responding..." error messages?

LOL

Makkir

The particle density lag happens in many MMOs. In all the EG raids I have participated I have never heard Brandon once instruct everyone to spam AOE to crash the server.
If it's heals being spammed, then ZOS should change how ultimates are charged. No one is doing it intentionally to crash people out.

Agrippa_Invisus

Makkir wrote: »

The particle density lag happens in many MMOs. In all the EG raids I have participated I have never heard Brandon once instruct everyone to spam AOE to crash the server.
If it's heals being spammed, then ZOS should change how ultimates are charged. No one is doing it intentionally to crash people out.

It's happened too often for us to believe you at this point.

If you wanted it to stop happening, you'd stop repeating the behavior that leads to it. We were there for the attempted scroll pickup on Thornblade on Labor Day weekend when Brandon tried to pick up Chim while carrying Ghartok (and wiped your guild).

The lag that happened in that temple was beyond ridiculous as EG got on top of the scroll pedestal.

jaebdub

That's exactly how it happens. They choose not to fight, but instead only spam mass heals on a flag until it caps (Resources and keeps alike). Meanwhile everyone around them is like "wtf, my skills are locked/delayed". You can literally stand in their group with no fear of dying because they aren't using any other skill than a heal. Healing Springs being the worst factor of the lag. It's impossible to even set up siege around them.

Agrippa_Invisus

jaebdub wrote: »

That's exactly how it happens. They choose not to fight, but instead only spam mass heals on a flag until it caps (Resources and keeps alike). Meanwhile everyone around them is like "wtf, my skills are locked/delayed". You can literally stand in their group with no fear of dying because they aren't using any other skill than a heal. Healing Springs being the worst factor of the lag. It's impossible to even set up siege around them.

Our move to Thornblade allowed us to see EG for the first time in all their glory. I could never have known what it was like until we saw it in person.

They are persistent, it's the only positive trait I've seen. They swarm like no other and do not give up until you've back capped their node, burned their tent, and full wiped them.

Makkir

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Makkir wrote: »

The particle density lag happens in many MMOs. In all the EG raids I have participated I have never heard Brandon once instruct everyone to spam AOE to crash the server.
If it's heals being spammed, then ZOS should change how ultimates are charged. No one is doing it intentionally to crash people out.

It's happened too often for us to believe you at this point.

If you wanted it to stop happening, you'd stop repeating the behavior that leads to it. We were there for the attempted scroll pickup on Thornblade on Labor Day weekend when Brandon tried to pick up Chim while carrying Ghartok (and wiped your guild).

The lag that happened in that temple was beyond ridiculous as EG got on top of the scroll pedestal.

Again as I mentioned, all the times I was in Teamspeak I have not heard a single instruction with intent to crash the server. Over the two months or so I was with EG, I witnessed Brandon calling for a Pulsar group maybe 2 or 3 times on Thornblade. Granted I am not in game 24 hours a day, but I don't think his 'intent' is to crash the server more over to just counter zerg. In fact he's made comments in TS before about not being a fan of pulsar groups because a couple siege shots just take them out anyway.

You're using an awful lot of "you's" up there. I was out of town Labor Day weekend fishing, and I don't normally play until about 4am EST. All I am doing is providing some objective information (based on my experiences), I am not here to take any part in political wars, name bashing, finger pointing, or hate.

In fact, I don't understand why you can't all play together nicely and instead resort to the forums for drama and flaming. If your opposing teams all quit, who will you play against?

GRxKnight

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Blues are the new reds. At least the

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

jaebdub wrote: »

To that one DC guild,

This is why we left Thornblade. Do not bring the crashes to Chillrend. Notice that it only happens when you are in a campaign.

Its because of AOE caps that its happening, Don't kid yourself to think its only EG that causes the problem...I can tell pretty much whenever there is a zerg ball in the area because it bloody lags everything.

EG though does have the problem of being so massive that it will crash the server..

But its 100% the AOE caps fault this is happening, Remove the AOE caps and the first time EG got wiped because they stacked..They wouldn't do it again.

EG's group uses healing springs to crash the server when they can't take something or are about to lose something.

Lfehova wrote: »

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

Hovaling is only worth 3 AP now.. stop dying so we can farm you more

I'd be worth more AP if you weren't in a group of 60 scrubs.

60? Heh, funny, we wiped your full group with 5 yesterday.

Hell, Alacrity steamrolled you guys when you had 40 with 8 people.

And TSym has failed on several occasions to wipe TKO when TKO has been outnumbered at least 2.5:1. What makes it even better is that, according to the "leader" (not that hard to lead a zerg of reds in a straight line and tell them to spam impulse), TKO's leader is the baddie in that situation.

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

Currently there is 100% a green alliance of some form. Not all guilds are participating in it, but there is 100% some sort of AD/DC alliance. Not even the dumbest pug would push EP when DC has the majority of the map.

The reason is simply because of what red did on the last iteration of the campaign. They will continue to get pushed and farmed day in and day out regardless of the map because they're viewed as easy AP. Sure when we want a real fight and a real challenge blue and yellow will bang heads but we'll mostly farm reds.

"Easy AP" you need a green alliance to kill us.

TKO wiped TSym with the shield stacking infinite magicka exploit.

Does TSym still play? Haven't seen them around...and yes I'm sure every time they get wiped it's b/c of some sort of exploit/bug/cheap tactic, not b/c they got beat

They were wiped to the shield stacking infinite magicka exploit by TKO. Stop denying it.

Ummm...no TSym gets wiped by TKO (and every other guild apparently) because they're bad and fail to adapt at what is thrown at them. Nice try trying to come up with an excuse of shield stacking and throwing the "exploit" tag on it when it isn't even an exploit. I guess saying that you guys are bad is a hard thing to do, but we all know the truth.

When I found out who your leader was I got a laugh because he was streaming your self proclaimed "best guild in open field tactics" on twitch and they were a far cry from impressive. First off, you have 30+ playing "follow the leader", aka, mindless zerging, throughout the battlefield (it looked like the retro game snake actually). Once we saw this (and mind you your tactics work against pugs so kudos there, but against a REAL group they don't) we immediately decided to hit your "tail" and wipe you from the back. The best part was tuning in to the stream and hearing your leader say that the person running the TKO group at that time was bad; and this was immediately after we wiped you three times. He tried explaining on stream to us that he wiped us just as much. I guess I wasn't aware that TKO also includes the unorganized pugs that were leeching our AP.

Also as a side note I've seen that TSym has left to go play arch-age. Guess they need to go play something a little bit more basic than ESO. Apparently it's too hard for them to spam immovable and impulse/healing springs.

Harness magicka + shield stacking = infinite magicka. Exploit.

It's as much of an exploit as invasion + talons or ambush + concealed weapon/surprise attack is and not just a synergy that works between skills...ok kid.

Agrippa_Invisus

Makkir wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Makkir wrote: »

The particle density lag happens in many MMOs. In all the EG raids I have participated I have never heard Brandon once instruct everyone to spam AOE to crash the server.
If it's heals being spammed, then ZOS should change how ultimates are charged. No one is doing it intentionally to crash people out.

It's happened too often for us to believe you at this point.

If you wanted it to stop happening, you'd stop repeating the behavior that leads to it. We were there for the attempted scroll pickup on Thornblade on Labor Day weekend when Brandon tried to pick up Chim while carrying Ghartok (and wiped your guild).

The lag that happened in that temple was beyond ridiculous as EG got on top of the scroll pedestal.

Again as I mentioned, all the times I was in Teamspeak I have not heard a single instruction with intent to crash the server. Over the two months or so I was with EG, I witnessed Brandon calling for a Pulsar group maybe 2 or 3 times on Thornblade. Granted I am not in game 24 hours a day, but I don't think his 'intent' is to crash the server more over to just counter zerg. In fact he's made comments in TS before about not being a fan of pulsar groups because a couple siege shots just take them out anyway.

You're using an awful lot of "you's" up there. I was out of town Labor Day weekend fishing, and I don't normally play until about 4am EST. All I am doing is providing some objective information (based on my experiences), I am not here to take any part in political wars, name bashing, finger pointing, or hate.

"You" is the collective you referring to EG as a guild.

To clarify.

jaebdub

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

jaebdub wrote: »

That's exactly how it happens. They choose not to fight, but instead only spam mass heals on a flag until it caps (Resources and keeps alike). Meanwhile everyone around them is like "wtf, my skills are locked/delayed". You can literally stand in their group with no fear of dying because they aren't using any other skill than a heal. Healing Springs being the worst factor of the lag. It's impossible to even set up siege around them.

Our move to Thornblade allowed us to see EG for the first time in all their glory. I could never have known what it was like until we saw it in person.

They are persistent, it's the only positive trait I've seen. They swarm like no other and do not give up until you've back capped their node, burned their tent, and full wiped them.

They certainly are persistent. To the point they are willing to lag the server instead of lose an assault. 1 day in Chillrend is all it took. This wasn't the first time Chillrend has been poplocked either.

Agrippa_Invisus

jaebdub wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

jaebdub wrote: »

That's exactly how it happens. They choose not to fight, but instead only spam mass heals on a flag until it caps (Resources and keeps alike). Meanwhile everyone around them is like "wtf, my skills are locked/delayed". You can literally stand in their group with no fear of dying because they aren't using any other skill than a heal. Healing Springs being the worst factor of the lag. It's impossible to even set up siege around them.

Our move to Thornblade allowed us to see EG for the first time in all their glory. I could never have known what it was like until we saw it in person.

They are persistent, it's the only positive trait I've seen. They swarm like no other and do not give up until you've back capped their node, burned their tent, and full wiped them.

They certainly are persistent. To the point they are willing to lag the server instead of lose an assault. 1 day in Chillrend is all it took. This wasn't the first time Chillrend has been poplocked either.

While we were still there Chillrend experienced triple pop locks and fairly lag free environments as the zerg would not concentrate too much. The only laggy fights were usually attempts to dethrone an emperor during prime time, and those could get a little tough on the ol' FPS rate.

But they were withstandable.

jaebdub

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

jaebdub wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

jaebdub wrote: »

That's exactly how it happens. They choose not to fight, but instead only spam mass heals on a flag until it caps (Resources and keeps alike). Meanwhile everyone around them is like "wtf, my skills are locked/delayed". You can literally stand in their group with no fear of dying because they aren't using any other skill than a heal. Healing Springs being the worst factor of the lag. It's impossible to even set up siege around them.

Our move to Thornblade allowed us to see EG for the first time in all their glory. I could never have known what it was like until we saw it in person.

They are persistent, it's the only positive trait I've seen. They swarm like no other and do not give up until you've back capped their node, burned their tent, and full wiped them.

They certainly are persistent. To the point they are willing to lag the server instead of lose an assault. 1 day in Chillrend is all it took. This wasn't the first time Chillrend has been poplocked either.

While we were still there Chillrend experienced triple pop locks and fairly lag free environments as the zerg would not concentrate too much. The only laggy fights were usually attempts to dethrone an emperor during prime time, and those could get a little tough on the ol' FPS rate.

But they were withstandable.

The one constant to the equation is EG.
x = No lag
x + y = Some lag
x + y + EG = Crash
a + b + c + d + f + h = NO GAWD DANG CRASHES

It's impossible to deny that EG puts it over the threshold. Take EG out and we will not have server crashes.

Braidas

Makkir wrote: »

The particle density lag happens in many MMOs. In all the EG raids I have participated I have never heard Brandon once instruct everyone to spam AOE to crash the server.
If it's heals being spammed, then ZOS should change how ultimates are charged. No one is doing it intentionally to crash people out.

Okay, well now that you know you're crashing everybody out, pass it along. Stop doing it.

bitaken

EHJ wiped TSYM so many times the weekend they arrived on Chill that their leader called us the "Bat Swarm" zeg - and me the "vampire lord" which is funny because we double checked the number of vamps in group at the time we beat them 4 times in a row - and it never got higher than 5. We had 18 in group that night IIRC. The last night we saw them in total on Chill their leader said we were the undisputed champions of Cyrodil. It was funny that they had all just leveled up vamp skills - because they thought our group was all vamps - on every single character - so they could beat us with bat swarm. Watching the look of confusion as they got feared from COP was...awesome...fun.

I respect TSYM for how tightly they are able to move together and how they work together for a very specific tactic. However, in this game that particular tactic is utilized by many - and there are many counters - they just don't like going against "mixed" and organized groups that know how to separate / dominate them.

aksyong

Up one on the house

SienneYviete

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Makkir wrote: »

The particle density lag happens in many MMOs. In all the EG raids I have participated I have never heard Brandon once instruct everyone to spam AOE to crash the server.
If it's heals being spammed, then ZOS should change how ultimates are charged. No one is doing it intentionally to crash people out.

It's happened too often for us to believe you at this point.

If you wanted it to stop happening, you'd stop repeating the behavior that leads to it. We were there for the attempted scroll pickup on Thornblade on Labor Day weekend when Brandon tried to pick up Chim while carrying Ghartok (and wiped your guild).

The lag that happened in that temple was beyond ridiculous as EG got on top of the scroll pedestal.

To be fair to Brandon on this I have personally witnessed people being removed from group and teamspeak for attempting to crash the server with healing springs.