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Any Way for Existing Customers to get the Whiterun Wolfhound?
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emeraldbay✭✭✭✭✭Still waiting for our dog, Zen.
I'm gonna name mine Spot, even though he has no spots. What about you guys?-T h e - A l d m e r i - I n i t i a t i v e-— O r d e r - o f - t h e - R a v y n —4 -
SgtPepperUK✭✭✭Exclusive items now are a way to draw people into the game and hopefully keep the population growing but people seem quite short-sighted about it.
I suspect most of the sales ZOS gained last weekend were due to the price and the exposure it got on Steam.
And yes, as an MMO developer you want to draw new people in but, at the same time, you want to retain as much of your existing playerbase as possible. Simply replacing old players with new ones is not growth. It's stagnation.
And if you lose more players than you gain it becomes decay.
Whilst this issue may cause very few people to quit at this stage it does raise some quite legitmate questions about ZOS' long term strategy and whether they can sustain a subscription model.
I really hope they can, I'd love nothing more than to see ZOS stick the middle finger up to all those who sincerely believe this game will be forced to go F2P in a few months, to those people who've categorically said they will wait for it to do so before they will play it.randolphbenoit wrote: »Just wish ZEN/ZoS would come to this thread and explain WHY they do this to loyal players?
Sadly, a week on and all we seem to have had is a vague statement about a variant pet that we will somehow get (or be offered if they decide to make it a cash shop item) at some undetermined point in the future.
I'd really like to hear their honest thoughts on this matter and their reasons for not extending this to existing subscribers.4 -
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Stop raging over WoW pets.smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »god no wow pets. So kid-oriented.1 -
smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »You should unsub. That would show them.
Hell yes. I keep waiting on these people to put their money where their mouths are, but all I get are empty promises.0 -
emeraldbay✭✭✭✭✭
Eh, some people really have unsubbed. I'm not quite at that point yet, since I'm still enjoying the game, but others have had a lot more trouble than I have. I can see how this would be the last straw for some.txfeinbergsub17_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »You should unsub. That would show them.
Hell yes. I keep waiting on these people to put their money where their mouths are, but all I get are empty promises.-T h e - A l d m e r i - I n i t i a t i v e-— O r d e r - o f - t h e - R a v y n —1 -
MornaBaine✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Wow. My family shelled out for FIVE Imperial Editions and I hate that frakin' stupid crab and weird little mutant creature! GIVE ME THE DOG DAMMIT!PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!2 -
StaticWax✭✭✭✭I don't understand why people get so greedy/envious about these things.
Let it go. Let the exclusivity be just as intended.I wish nothing but joy for everyone.1 -
Holycannoli✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »god no wow pets. So kid-oriented.
I agree, but compare them to ESO pets. ESO pets are boring. They do nothing. The dog barks and so far it's the most I've seen a pet do. Even monkeys just screech once in a while and that's it.0 -
Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭emeraldbay wrote: »
Eh, some people really have unsubbed. I'm not quite at that point yet, since I'm still enjoying the game, but others have had a lot more trouble than I have. I can see how this would be the last straw for some.txfeinbergsub17_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »You should unsub. That would show them.
Hell yes. I keep waiting on these people to put their money where their mouths are, but all I get are empty promises.
Some left , some might never join now."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
-Hanlon's razor0 -
KingRebz✭✭✭Yo LOL, man go to the steam reviews on the elder scrolls online page on steam, nearly every review given is negative..man for once can they listen to US rather than themselves?V14 Sorceror [Ebonheart]2 -
Nox_Aeterna wrote: »emeraldbay wrote: »
Eh, some people really have unsubbed. I'm not quite at that point yet, since I'm still enjoying the game, but others have had a lot more trouble than I have. I can see how this would be the last straw for some.txfeinbergsub17_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »You should unsub. That would show them.
Hell yes. I keep waiting on these people to put their money where their mouths are, but all I get are empty promises.
Some left , some might never join now.
Good! The less whiney people I have to deal with the better!0 -
Humanistic✭✭✭✭I don't mind paying extra for things like this - it's my hobby. The thing that I don't like about this is that you can't combine the key with a main account. You have to make a completely different account, and the dog applies to that. So essentially, to get the dog as a current subscriber, you have to have two accounts.
I don't like that, but if you're trying to make money above all else, who really gives a *** what the customer thinks.6 -
The_Sadist wrote: »Make vanity pets tradable.
BAM! Solution.
They aren't tradeable?
I was thinking about offering up one of my barbaric motifs for a dog
I don't think this would have been such a big deal if they actually released companions at the start instead of adding little by little so far apart from release. Most Vets already did every thing, not much point to getting a dog to do the same quests all over again.0 -
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✭txfeinbergsub17_ESO wrote: »Nox_Aeterna wrote: »emeraldbay wrote: »
Eh, some people really have unsubbed. I'm not quite at that point yet, since I'm still enjoying the game, but others have had a lot more trouble than I have. I can see how this would be the last straw for some.txfeinbergsub17_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »You should unsub. That would show them.
Hell yes. I keep waiting on these people to put their money where their mouths are, but all I get are empty promises.
Some left , some might never join now.
Good! The less whiney people I have to deal with the better!
Who exactly is forcing you to deal with them though?3 -
We are suppose to be able to summon any monster,critter ect in game as a combat pet with the new spellcrafting ? Why not just wait 1-2 months for the combat pet0
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aisriyth_ESO✭✭✭I am VERY dissapointed in Zenimax with the Wolfhound debacle. I make a habit of being one of the pioneers to a new mmo because I am a hardcore collector and I usually don't like missing out on all the pre-order goodies and early access bonus.
Sadly, this is the first time in my MMO playing career that waiting would of actually gotten me more benefits then being day 1 or earlier player.
Hopefully Zenimax realizes how badly it was handled and either let vets buy a steam key to at least add on top of their account which albeit it inelegant will at least satisfy a majority of us. Or at least hopefully no contract is in place and the actually whiterun wolfhound can be put on the cash store in addition to the riften wolfhound.4 -
emeraldbay✭✭✭✭✭
Flame atronach ≠ doggy. I want a nice pet that I can keep out when I'm in banks and other interiors without bothering people too much. I don't leave my clannfear out when I'm inside because I know it bothers people, I assume any other summoned pets would be the same.We are suppose to be able to summon any monster,critter ect in game as a combat pet with the new spellcrafting ? Why not just wait 1-2 months for the combat petEdited by emeraldbay on July 25, 2014 1:05PM-T h e - A l d m e r i - I n i t i a t i v e-— O r d e r - o f - t h e - R a v y n —0 -
randolphbenoit✭✭✭✭@aisriyth_ESO its disappointing and no one from ZEN responding to this thread, which showing they just not care
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Saltrice - (Salt tolerant rice) Saltrice, pronounced just like it looks is, in fact, a kind of rice that can grow in paddies of either fresh or brackish water.1 -
Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭randolphbenoit wrote: »@aisriyth_ESO its disappointing and no one from ZEN responding to this thread, which showing they just not care
They did respond to say they are not giving this gray dog , but they will add a brown one eventually.
Which was their try to shut us up , considering how they tried that around page 17 of the thread , you can see how well it worked out.
In the end , zen did create content only for new players on a sub based MMO , this is a first to me , which i also make sure everyone i talk about the game now know also :P , not a very well received call i would say heh."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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hk11✭✭✭✭txfeinbergsub17_ESO wrote: »Well, this video just popped up in my subscription feed. Its kinda interesting, and I feel resounds well with gaming as a whole now.
http://youtu.be/ecH4DZmsYH8
Skip to 5m 24s in, because linking doesn't appear to work with timestamps.
That was incredibly stupid. Can I have my 5 minutes back please. (and yes, I will admit that I clicked on it because she was cute, but that wore off really quickly)
I think this person is responsible for all the terrible games coming out. I had to stop listening. If she is pro free dogs for existing customers, I dont want one anymore.Edited by hk11 on July 25, 2014 8:04PM0 -
CirithValaria✭✭✭✭I must admit that I'm pretty much happy with the current ones, besides I already have emotional bond with them and simply could not think of replacing anyone.
I don't mind anyone else having new ones ofc
Motto:
“What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us...
What we have done for others and the world, it remains and is immortal...”
About me:
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| hardcore-casual | pc-eu / ps4-eu | pve | pvp | player since early beta | subscriber since early-launch |
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Characters:@Cirith-Valar'ia(pc-eu)
Cirith Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Lady of Light, Templar DD (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Aldmeri Dominion (Master Crafter - all crafts, traits & styles.)
Nezghul Sithis | Breton (F) | Winter Ward, Warden Tank (magic) | lvl 50 | Aldmeri Dominion
Hakrate Hecate | Orc (F) | Dying Light, Templar DD (stamina, PvP) | lvl 50 | Aldmeri Dominion
Tummien-Vesien-Tulkki | Argonian (M) | Blood Shield, Nightblade Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
Valonkantaja | Argonian (F) | Healer of the Hist, Templar Healer | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
Tulenvalaja | Argonian (M) | Guardian of the Hist, Dragonknight DD (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
Kuolon-Raatojen-Kaitsija | Argonian (M) | Corpsekeeper of the Hist, Necromancer Tank (magic) | lvl 20 | Ebonheart Pact
Kal-Mah | Argonian (F) | Spawn of Wamasu, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
Puutiainen | Bosmer (F) | Horny Ravager, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
Musta-Surma | Khajiit (F) | Nightpawler, Nightblade DD - thief/murderer (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
T'Sok Shiar | Altmer (F) | Touched by Daedra, Sorcerer DD (magic) | (ex)VR 1 | Daggerfall Covenant (Master Cook - all recipes.)
S'auron | Khajiit (M) | Poison Paw, Dragonknight DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
(1100CP)
@Lilith-Valar'ia(pc-eu)
Lilith Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Phœnix, Dragonknight Healer | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
Stormpaw | Khajiit (F) | Cpt. Pirate Puss, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
Iliath Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Storm Ward, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
Haudantakainen | Argonian (M) | Pale Avenger, Nightblade DD (magic) | lvl 25 | Ebonheart Pact
Kira Tal'Shiar | Breton (F) | Warrior of Light, Templar DD (magic) | lvl 10 | Ebonheart Pact
Sunpaw | Khajiit (M) | Crescent Moon Guardian, Templar Tank (stamina, PvP) | lvl 40 | Daggerfall Covenant
Shangri Shadowtusk | Orc (F) | Shadowtusk, Nightblade DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
(180CP)
@CirithValaria(ps4-eu)
Topaz-dar | Khajiit (F) | Mysticat, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | lvl 5 | Aldmeri Dominion
Her-Frozen-Heart | Argonian (F) | Frozen Shield, Warden Tank (magicka) | lvl 5 | Daggerfall Covenant
Neazgûl | Redguard (F) | Bear Matron, Warden DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
(160CP)1 -
emeraldbay✭✭✭✭✭Mr.Turtlesworth wrote: »FOR THE REVOLUTION!
For prosperity! For security! For unity! For the Dominion Wolfhound Pack!-T h e - A l d m e r i - I n i t i a t i v e-— O r d e r - o f - t h e - R a v y n —0 -
Shasti✭✭How about a quest for those of us that have been here since beta and pre ordered. There have been several that had dogs and cats involved in some way.2 -
Nazon_Katts✭✭✭✭✭So, how's that dog coming along?
Didn't catch that rabbit, 'cause it had to take a ***."You've probably figured that out by now. Let's hope so. Or we're in real trouble... and out come the intestines. And I skip rope with them!"0
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