Duels? Yes or no?

MornaBaine

Do you feel ESO should implement a duel function? Yes or no? Feel free to elaborate. Also, if they are actually planning to implement a duel function, I'd love to know!

Blackwidow

Of course dueling should be in ESO.

Dueling should be in every MMO ever made.

To leave it out was a failure to understand what the player base wants.

The only reason anyone could argue that it should not be in the game are the ones who fear people will start complaining about what class is too powerful.

That ship has already sailed.

AlexDougherty

Yes, for those who want to duel.
But it must be optional, or it becomes harassment, Swtor had an autodecline feature, which was perfect for duels. If they had a similar opt out then it would be perfect, for a given value of perfect.

AlexDougherty

Blackwidow wrote: »

Of course dueling should be in ESO.

Dueling should be in every MMO ever made.

To leave it out was a failure to understand what the player base wants.

@blackwidow what some of the player base wants.
Personally I dislike duelling, but if there's an opt out feature, I'll support it.

Artis

Duels obviously should be in the game.
But duels will make all the imbalance too obvious for players.. Imagine, what forums will turn into

Digiman

Certainly think that if they do add the option, they would also add locations away from cities, towns and quest givers. Don't like the idea of listening to dialogue as two twatbums who are bored blast around the town.

Maybe an arena location where players can also watch and bet on which side with NPC's would be fun. 50 gold at maximum as I think most will just throw the fight.

Blackwidow

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Yes, for those who want to duel.
But it must be optional, or it becomes harassment, Swtor had an autodecline feature, which was perfect for duels. If they had a similar opt out then it would be perfect, for a given value of perfect.

When has dueling not been optional?

Auto decline is common with the dueling system, so yes it should be in ESO as well.

Soloeus

MornaBaine wrote: »

Do you feel ESO should implement a duel function? Yes or no? Feel free to elaborate. Also, if they are actually planning to implement a duel function, I'd love to know!

1. Yes. A duel function would allow more PVP. It would allow PVP with members of your own faction. It would let you and your buddy mess around, it would let you and someone you disdain duke it out.

2. I haven't heard anything. It is probably on the low priority list but I agree with you, dueling should have been in the vanilla release. I would want the duel system to give alliance points. It could work similar to dueling NPC's where instead of dying you are set to 10% HP and it ends. No looting one another.

3. Ante Duels would also be a fun thing to do. (Each player antes gold or an item similar to a trade window).

Etharian

Blackwidow wrote: »

Of course dueling should be in ESO.

Dueling should be in every MMO ever made.

To leave it out was a failure to understand what the player base wants.

The only reason anyone could argue that it should not be in the game are the ones who fear people will start complaining about what class is too powerful.

That ship has already sailed.

what this guy said.... BOGGLES my mind why dueling is not in a MMO...especially this one

AlexDougherty

Blackwidow wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Yes, for those who want to duel.
But it must be optional, or it becomes harassment, Swtor had an autodecline feature, which was perfect for duels. If they had a similar opt out then it would be perfect, for a given value of perfect.

When has dueling not been optional?

Auto decline is common with the dueling system, so yes it should be in ESO as well.

Ok, sorry I was probably being too sensitive.

Aett_Thorn

I don't think that dueling is necessary in any MMO, though there is a certain percentage of the population that believes so. Most people in MMOs DON'T PvP, so dueling isn't necessary for them.

If dueling is added, the only way that I won't care is if they add it as an optional thing, and the auto-decline needs to be on by default. People should need to turn it off intentionally. Put the onus on those who want to PvP, not those who don't.

Blackwidow

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Blackwidow wrote: »

Of course dueling should be in ESO.

Dueling should be in every MMO ever made.

To leave it out was a failure to understand what the player base wants.

@blackwidow what some of the player base wants.
Personally I dislike duelling, but if there's an opt out feature, I'll support it.

Most people expect dueling to be in a AAA game, is what I was getting at. Just like most people expect to see an AH, a law system, to be able to swim underwater, a fully function bank system, etc.

Not everyone may like it dueling, but it is one of those things that has no downside and most of the players do like it or at minimum expect it.

MornaBaine

okay I am totally in the pro-duel faction...even though I will decline any random challenge for the most part. But for decently realistic RP duel ability is a must! I think it would be cool if, sort of like in Cyrodil, you would be scaled to your opponent's level, so anyone can duel with anyone else of any level and stand a decent chance of victory. I would NOT like dueling to be confined to an arena as that takes a lot of the spontaneity and realism out of it. Sure it can be annoying if people are suddenly dueling during your peaceful dinner at the tavern... it's inconvenient when brawls break out at the bar you're drinking at in real life too! LOL So join in or duck out the back door!

madangrypally

I have have only Dueled 4-5 times in all the long years iv been playing MMOs. ESO is the first MMO that I would love to duel other players, as this is the first MMO iv been mainly PvPing in. I would love for them to add the feature.

Class balancing will be more out in the open with these changes, but so will ways to counter other classes.

FlatLine84

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Blackwidow wrote: »

Of course dueling should be in ESO.

Dueling should be in every MMO ever made.

To leave it out was a failure to understand what the player base wants.

@blackwidow what some of the player base wants.
Personally I dislike duelling, but if there's an opt out feature, I'll support it.

That's what's wrong with the MMO community IMO to many "cup cakes" hardly enough " steak and patatos" if you know what I mean.

Blackwidow

FlatLine84 wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Blackwidow wrote: »

Of course dueling should be in ESO.

Dueling should be in every MMO ever made.

To leave it out was a failure to understand what the player base wants.

@blackwidow what some of the player base wants.
Personally I dislike duelling, but if there's an opt out feature, I'll support it.

That's what's wrong with the MMO community IMO to many "cup cakes" hardly enough " steak and patatos" if you know what I mean.

I have no clue what that means.

steinarmspreeb18_ESO

Yes it would be nice to try out different setups .. and fun

Vis

Yes, because it would be fun.

No, because it would promote qq by those who feel classes should be "equivalent."

I don't know, because both would happen.

Blackwidow

Vis wrote: »

Yes, because it would be fun.

No, because it would promote qq by those who feel classes should be "equivalent."

I don't know, because both would happen.

Right now only one is happening. We might as well get the yes factor as well.

crowfl56

well dueling in ESO, I would say fine as long as you restrict it to PVP zones only.
Reason: I can see the dueler's now spamming away in every big city, which IMO only cause's nothing but eye sore and unneeded spell spam.

So duel only in pvp area's period.

Blackwidow

crowfl56 wrote: »

well dueling in ESO, I would say fine as long as you restrict it to PVP zones only.
Reason: I can see the dueler's now spamming away in every big city, which IMO only cause's nothing but eye sore and unneeded spell spam.

So duel only in pvp area's period.

I think dueling outside city zones would be fine. That is how most MMOs do it.

Players tend to duel when there is a few moments of downtime. They are not going to want to travel all the way to Cyrodiil just for a 30 second duel.

MornaBaine

crowfl56 wrote: »

well dueling in ESO, I would say fine as long as you restrict it to PVP zones only.
Reason: I can see the dueler's now spamming away in every big city, which IMO only cause's nothing but eye sore and unneeded spell spam.

So duel only in pvp area's period.

I respectfully disagree. Duels should be able to happen anywhere, NOT just in PvP zones. I'm not going to run from Rivenspire to Cyrodil just to duel someone. If your character says something particularly nasty to my character in a tavern though, I want to be able to throw down right there and then. As has already been mentioned by someone else, the default position of duels should be "off" so that only those who deliberately choose to engage in this content/activity are accost-able in the first place. Those who DON'T want to duel should NOT be harassed by jerks spamming them to duel. SWTOR handled that nicely, no reason why it can't happen here.

Theosis

Ive said it before and Ill say it again.

Only if we get an emote were I take off my gauntlet and smack my opponent with it bugs bunny style.

Okay why not.

We can always say no when invited to duel.

crowfl56

MornaBaine wrote: »

crowfl56 wrote: »

well dueling in ESO, I would say fine as long as you restrict it to PVP zones only.
Reason: I can see the dueler's now spamming away in every big city, which IMO only cause's nothing but eye sore and unneeded spell spam.

So duel only in pvp area's period.

I respectfully disagree. Duels should be able to happen anywhere, NOT just in PvP zones. I'm not going to run from Rivenspire to Cyrodil just to duel someone. If your character says something particularly nasty to my character in a tavern though, I want to be able to throw down right there and then. As has already been mentioned by someone else, the default position of duels should be "off" so that only those who deliberately choose to engage in this content/activity are accost-able in the first place. Those who DON'T want to duel should NOT be harassed by jerks spamming them to duel. SWTOR handled that nicely, no reason why it can't happen here.

Biggest reason for no dueling except in a pvp zone is

PVE = player vs envirorment.
PVP = player vs player.

Big difference eh?

butterfly442

MornaBaine wrote: »

Do you feel ESO should implement a duel function? Yes or no? Feel free to elaborate. Also, if they are actually planning to implement a duel function, I'd love to know!

Its a friggin' MMO.

Duels.

Worse thing to ask about than jerkins.

Dusty5

NO it should not. Pvp is locked away for a reason. Just go look at the people who sit in towns trying to block doors, spamming spells and arrow attacks. Soon as some option goes into effect outside the locked away pvp zone people will be camping npc's resource nodes and dungeons spaming duel requests trying to trip an unwanted pvp fight. This like all other similar threads are really about getting a chance to grief.

Anilahation

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Yes, for those who want to duel.
But it must be optional, or it becomes harassment, Swtor had an autodecline feature, which was perfect for duels. If they had a similar opt out then it would be perfect, for a given value of perfect.

Your can already be harassed with trade, group and guild invites

MornaBaine

Dusty5 wrote: »

NO it should not. Pvp is locked away for a reason. Just go look at the people who sit in towns trying to block doors, spamming spells and arrow attacks. Soon as some option goes into effect outside the locked away pvp zone people will be camping npc's resource nodes and dungeons spaming duel requests trying to trip an unwanted pvp fight. This like all other similar threads are really about getting a chance to grief.

Wow. Really? So I want a duel function so I can grief people? Dude, I SUCK at PvP as a rule and I decline probably over 80% of duels I get invited to in other games. And if the default is NOT accepting duel invites then how can anyone possibly grief you with them? You'll never even know you're getting them and/or the person who wants to duel you will simply find it impossible to send you a duel invitation! Sheesh!

MornaBaine

crowfl56 wrote: »

Biggest reason for no dueling except in a pvp zone is

PVE = player vs envirorment.
PVP = player vs player.

Big difference eh?

But that isn't even remotely realistic. And as duels only affect those who are engaged in them, there's no logical reason to forbid them. Frankly, I want to sometimes see people brawling in the streets and taverns. Because that kind of thing actually happens.

hk11

Yes, but they should all be unarmed w/ no magic or healing ala Skyrim.

PSLAnimal

Meh.