I mean jeez at least wait until next patch when every pure class will have fun new toys to play with. Every class will be brought up to par. How is this any worse than last patch where everyone in PvE was using Herald of the Tome and everyone in PvP was using Assassin/Storm/X skill line? If anything, the meta is going to be shifting more frequently than it has in years with each patch for the next couple years.

Xarc wrote: »

Incredible.

Everyone is aware of the imbalance but thinks it's normal and asks other players to be patient for two years.

I can't believe it.

The imbalance exists BECAUSE the devs are working on fixing it the right way by introducing these class refreshes one at a time. Calling for DK nerfs is like suffering with a broken leg for two years, then complaining that the cast is itchy and you want it removed and your leg re-broken when you finally get medical attention for it.

Is DK slightly overperforming? Yes. But that’s because subclassing is overperforming and the class refreshes need to bring everything to that level.

I like DK right where it is because the majority of people I see crying hardest about it are subclass mains on their overpowered Warden builds. I love fighting them now because I can re-enact The Passion of the Christ and Whip them half to death with ease.

You need to be patient and wait for the class refresh to be finished before the game is remotely closer to being balanced. If you can’t do that, maybe you need to play something else for the next two years and come back when everything is done. Because when 99% of this thread is people telling you you’re wrong, it might be time to believe it.

I still wonder if it's really that they think cosmetics sell better, or if the main reason for not producing chapters anymore is just that they don't have the capacities for it anymore (at least right now). So perhaps smaller bits of story content and smaller maps/dungeons (like the Night Market or the Sages Vault) is the only thing they can still do. Now, would those be monetizeable? Would enough people buy them seperately? Would they be willing to spend money for one questline taking place in one old zone, or throughout several old zones? Or for the Sages Vault, despite not knowing beforehand how playing it will even be like, and if they'd find fun? I have my doubts. So what's left that can be sold if not cosmetics (which I'm not sure if it will be a success either)?

The main problem I see with chapters - not chapters as a release format in general, but what we actually got in ESO - is that there had been a downwards tendency for years. More and more people disliked them. Many lore people became fed up with lore mistakes and left over the years. Even many people who just enjoy the typical TES-style stories while not being lore experts, grew dissatisfied with the writing over the years and left. The typical points of criticism: It became formulaic. Characters felt more clichéd. Themes became more shallow. Themes also became more generic instead of really making something of TES' vast background lore and the peculiarities of its fictional cultures. Real emotional (and often tragic) situations didn't come up as often anymore. No moral dilemmas. And then lately often a certain lecturing, moral tone - despite one big aspect of TES writing having always been that it does not moralize, but portrays different fictional cultures or groups of people with their specific way of thinking and living, so the player could come to their own conclusions, and on top of that could freely choose to roleplay a person from this fictional world, how ever they imagined them to be. I think this had always been one of TES' strong points and a feature that many people loved about TES: You could experience that fictional world and their way of living, without someone blatantly shoehorning in real world moral statements all the time.

The problem now really is that many people of the target group for chapter content have already left over the years, and that an opinion about ESO's current writing has formed. If someone has already left, it might be difficult to bring them back. Also, many already have a negative opinion about the writing, so how to convince them to give it another try if it really improves one day? Even if there'll ever be a great chapter again, it will be difficult to reach many people with that info, I'm afraid. Unless it's really outstanding, so those people see lots of praise online, and might get curious to have a look.

all the DKs on this thread : "nooo it's fine like it is!!!"

Sure, for you.

Despite not being a fan of their new system the chapters were pretty underwhelming since Elsweyr/Greymoor, at the very least, especially in writing department which got to the abysmal levels in recent years. I'd take years of base game work (zones revamp, class reworks etc.) and adjustments instead of pure mediocrity of writing we've got any day while they're figuring writing issues out, if they are serious about getting back on track that is. We'll see.

At the very least wait until all the class refreshes are done first. If it gets nerfed now, that means every other refresh is going to be nerfed before it even gets launched.

As others have said, seeing the dragonknights power just means all of the rest of us are waiting our turn for our refresh. I find it exciting to see how well DK has turned out. It means there is hope for my class as well.

I wonder how they have calculated their income stream from this. Apart from ESO+ and the Buy to Play, their main income was from people buying the DLC, either the standard or the deluxe. They could work out the expected sales of these products based on previous experience and player numbers, and possibly the state of the global economy but especially in the US and the EU.

Now they are in unknown territory. There are no more DLCs, no more failed Content Pass. They seem to be relying on people buying premium tome caches (unless I've missed something). These caches unlock extra tome rewards that you can then earn tome points to purchase.

Here is the kicker, previously, in order to play a new zone with your guild mates or even solo you MUST have bought the DLC. This was a massive incentive to shell out cash when you might not have really wanted to. Now, you don't have to pay anything; everything you purchase from the tome store is a cosmetic item of some sort that has exactly zero relevance to gameplay abilities or locations you can visit. It would be possible for a player to never spend a single tome point and still enjoy the game everywhere with their guild mates; the incentive to purchase has gone.

The average player age in this game is around 35-55 years. Based on plenty of previous polls, I myself am 61. People in these age groups are not so attracted to shinys as younger people in my experience. This is not Fortnite. Maybe I'm reading it all wrong, but if they end up going back to Chapters in the next year or two, then we'll at least know why.

SneaK wrote: »

No, just work overtime and crank out the rest of the refreshes ahead of schedule. Do something the gaming industry has never done, be early.

There are so many horror stories of Gaming Studios abusing their devs like this. Let's not encourage it.

Tome points are currency. Why should anyone assume they expire when none of our other currencies expire?

Looking at the TP calculations now, I guess it makes sense that ZOS wouldn't want us carrying over 20000 TPs to automatically unlock most of the pages of the next season, but that's not something you would normally assume of a currency.

And there IS an intrinsic value to having extra TPs, it's so you have the flexibility to not have to do some challenges if you don't have the time or opportunity.

No, keep light attacking weaving as it is, that’s the core and one of the best things in the combat system.