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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
Alright this is getting silly. Why are y’all summoning people like it’s a yugioh battle?
I’m just going to wait for official responses/changes at this point. It’s hard to take this argument seriously!
Another piece of feedback while I’m here; move the extra speed from rampage into the passive (while also increasing the speed cap for werebeasts), then replace it with a snare immunity. Werewolves being terrible against bad terrain doesn’t make much sense to me, you see.
I’m just going to wait for official responses/changes at this point. It’s hard to take this argument seriously!
Another piece of feedback while I’m here; move the extra speed from rampage into the passive (while also increasing the speed cap for werebeasts), then replace it with a snare immunity. Werewolves being terrible against bad terrain doesn’t make much sense to me, you see.
Ataskir
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Re: Anti-Teabagging Policy now encouraging even worse toxic behavior
SilverBride wrote: »I don't know when the focus went from stopping bad behaviors to telling people to just accept and deal with them, but this doesn't bode well for society.
Never said "just accept it" or I could have saved myself a lot of time just typing those three words.
This is how I think it should be:
1. In a game that has PVP and actions not controlled by the Dev's, you should just expect to be teabagged at some point. If that bothers you, don't play PVP.
2. But if you do PVP, you should have the right to ask someone to stop if you believe their behavior amounts to harassment.
3. BUT (and its a BIG BUT!) if you have partaken in the same action, you waive the right to complain about that same action. After all, we don't want to empower hypocrites, right? RIGHT?
4. And treat false reports as a violation of the rules just the same so that all these people who are spam-reporting get banned for abusing the rules too.
5. And 5, no player should face a minute of suspension BEFORE the reports are investigated. Investigate first, then punish. Get rid of this nonsense where a player can be suspended "pending investigation."
Is that fair enough for you?
Re: Arachnophobia and ESO
I have a similar issue with wasps - even though I can one-shot most of them, I still find myself going around them whenever possible! I really, REALLY don't like wasps! I tell myself they're just pixels, but I still go around them!
i have the opposite effect with the bees/wasps in the game ... im allergic to bees in RL ... and find myself going out of my way to kill everyone i see in the game lol
W0lf_z13
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Re: Arachnophobia and ESO
Perhaps its time ESO was renamed to ESZ - from Elder Scrolls Online to Endless Spiders & Zombies .. 
Re: Duo-Dynamo Dungeon Delver Spider
Under gameplay in the settings menu. You can switch on or off any of the 3 in any combo.
Re: What class is the most in need of attention, bug fixes, and buffs right now?
Templar
And this will be my vote until they revert the U35 change to jabs animation. *NEVER FORGET!*
And this will be my vote until they revert the U35 change to jabs animation. *NEVER FORGET!*
Re: Nerf Range Ganking!
Oblivion_Protocol wrote: »BigPlays420 wrote: »I’ve personally never seen it, and I’ve been hit by this gank plenty of times without ever feeling like I got desynced, and I play on fairly high ping myself, around 150–200 ms. Until actual proof is shown, I don’t think anyone is exploiting anything here if the argument is just “server desync,” especially when desync affects nearly every part of PvP whenever the servers are struggling.
The much simpler explanation is that the gank’s one-GCD potential is just ridiculous, even into fairly tanky specs. More often than not, that is probably what people are dying to.
“I’ve never personally contracted cancer, so until you show me footage of someone slowly dying in a hospital bed, I don’t think anyone is getting sick from it.”
That’s what these “I’ve never seen it, so it doesn’t exist” arguments sound like. Which is funny because if you type “ESO desync” into the search bar on YouTube, the second result is a Crushing Shock ganker build video from a well-known veteran content creator who literally says the combo can cause desync about three minutes into the video.
Yes, the combo can kill people easily on its own. I’m not arguing that point. And the desync doesn’t always happen. But the combo creates a scenario where desync is far more likely to happen due to the high amount of calculations from up to 10 instances of damage occurring in a single GCD.
You are just flat-out wrong here, and the more you write, the more obvious it gets that you do not actually understand the gank well enough to be making exploit accusations this confidently.
Epic’s build was not even properly reverse engineered, so using that as some kind of authority piece is already shaky from the start. On top of that, the setups that produce the real disgusting damage are more nuanced than the average forum tourist seems capable of understanding. Watching a video and hearing “this can cause desync” clearly does not make you an expert on how the build actually functions.
What you keep calling “proof” is not proof at all. It is a guess layered on top of a misunderstanding. ESO PvP desyncs all the time. It has for years. It happens in ball group pushes, in outnumbered fights, in keeps, in open field, everywhere. When a build dumps an absurd amount of burst into an insanely compressed window, deaths are obviously going to look scuffed. That does not mean anyone is exploiting. It means the burst is overtuned and the server is, as usual, struggling to keep up.
And that is the part you seem unable to separate: overtuned burst is not the same thing as deliberate exploit abuse. Those are two different claims. The first one is obvious. The second one requires actual evidence, and no, “a YouTuber said it in a video” is not evidence unless your standards are unbelievably low.
So if you want to accuse people of exploiting, then do the adult thing and provide real proof: reproducible clips, proper breakdowns, something that shows more than you just being confused by how fast the combo kills. Until then, this is just another “I died too fast, therefore it must be an exploit” post dressed up with fake certainty.
The build is overtuned. Sure. Nobody serious is denying that. But your attempt to turn that into some confirmed exploit narrative is weak, badly argued, and based on a shallow understanding of the mechanic.
Re: Nevermind
For those asking removal of Class Masteries in favor of one passive for weapon damage being fixed:
Passives aren't just a chunk of weapon damage. There's defensive stats, there's debuffs, there's DOTs, and just unique interactions with your class that makes a little bit of flavor and difference.
Currently on the PTS I'm using Serpent's Disdain and the Glacial Maw Warden passive, with a frost enchant on my weapon, to apply 18 seconds of Major Brittle on enemies through light attacks. This isn't just raw damage to me, it's a useful team benefit that I can provide in werewolf form. Yes, normal wardens can do the same or even better, but that's not the point. It's a unique, fun and useful debuff that helps all my team, not just me.
Some free weapon damage ain't gonna replace that utility.
Werewolf isn't just about pumping out damage. We still want to be useful to our werewolf and non-werewolf friends. Plus there's tanking werewolves too, which different class masteries could benefit as well in different ways.
This is why I'm upset. The sheer lack of understanding and, worse, the ignorance from people in this very thread who mock and treat us like we're stupid because we want our base class to matter even just a little bit, and think that some free damage will magically make it okay.
When the PvP nerf demands stop being 'use the 'against players' or 'against monsters' modifier and becomes about taking away things across the board, then yes, I have all the reason to condemn PvPers for this demand for a playstyle they don't care about, and even act SUPERIOR about than those who actually play it.
Passives aren't just a chunk of weapon damage. There's defensive stats, there's debuffs, there's DOTs, and just unique interactions with your class that makes a little bit of flavor and difference.
Currently on the PTS I'm using Serpent's Disdain and the Glacial Maw Warden passive, with a frost enchant on my weapon, to apply 18 seconds of Major Brittle on enemies through light attacks. This isn't just raw damage to me, it's a useful team benefit that I can provide in werewolf form. Yes, normal wardens can do the same or even better, but that's not the point. It's a unique, fun and useful debuff that helps all my team, not just me.
Some free weapon damage ain't gonna replace that utility.
Werewolf isn't just about pumping out damage. We still want to be useful to our werewolf and non-werewolf friends. Plus there's tanking werewolves too, which different class masteries could benefit as well in different ways.
This is why I'm upset. The sheer lack of understanding and, worse, the ignorance from people in this very thread who mock and treat us like we're stupid because we want our base class to matter even just a little bit, and think that some free damage will magically make it okay.
When the PvP nerf demands stop being 'use the 'against players' or 'against monsters' modifier and becomes about taking away things across the board, then yes, I have all the reason to condemn PvPers for this demand for a playstyle they don't care about, and even act SUPERIOR about than those who actually play it.
coop500
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Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
Maximus_Mordred wrote: »ToddIngram wrote: »Maximus_Mordred wrote: »Hi ZOS,
Stop doing this, the majority of your PvP base does not want this washed game mode. We don’t want to contribute anything to your “testing” because we are against it. Frankly, it’s a waste of time. With all the good that’s being done recently in the studio this is the remaining outlier of a team clinging to one last bad decision. It feels like we’re just being reminded to stay skeptical of the PvP dev team’s vacuum decision making philosophy.
*edit*
Can we test PvE Vengeance on April 20th too?
Speak for yourself, after the endless years of nonstop ballgroups and bombers destroying PvP for all but the biggest sweatlords I am so looking forward to this.
Seeing the angry little forum bubble throwing a tantrum when they can't get carried by their sets to crush PvErs and clueless zergs to give themselves a fragile sense of power and superiority over others is never not music to my ears. The fact is that they have never, at any point represented the majority of PvPers. If ZOS did literally the exact polar opposite of what the chronically online "PvP" population here demanded then Cyrodiil today would be a much better place.
Not many times I support ZOS' stance on PvP but got to say, this is one of them.
As one of those PvP players who "throws a tantrum when I can't get carried by my sets to crush PvErs and clueless zergs to give myself a fragile sense of power and superiority over others" I will be taking vengeance week off. You see, I'm not a fan of the toxic PvE community that continuously make statements like the one from you I've quoted.
I've put in the time to be good at live Cyrodiil PvP. I'm not going to help ZOS throw all my years of time and effort into the trash bin.
LOL, I've been pvping in cyro since 2015 and am grand overlord. But nice try at reading the situation anyway. Enjoy your time off.
After 11 years in Cyrodiil you only have one GO? When one of my toons makes GO I swap to a new toon and start anew, usually on a new class so I can learn to play a different class.
Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
Maximus_Mordred wrote: »Hi ZOS,
Stop doing this, the majority of your PvP base does not want this washed game mode. We don’t want to contribute anything to your “testing” because we are against it. Frankly, it’s a waste of time. With all the good that’s being done recently in the studio this is the remaining outlier of a team clinging to one last bad decision. It feels like we’re just being reminded to stay skeptical of the PvP dev team’s vacuum decision making philosophy.
*edit*
Can we test PvE Vengeance on April 20th too?
Speak for yourself, after the endless years of nonstop ballgroups and bombers destroying PvP for all but the biggest sweatlords I am so looking forward to this.
Seeing the angry little forum bubble throwing a tantrum when they can't get carried by their sets to crush PvErs and clueless zergs to give themselves a fragile sense of power and superiority over others is never not music to my ears. The fact is that they have never, at any point represented the majority of PvPers. If ZOS did literally the exact polar opposite of what the chronically online "PvP" population here demanded then Cyrodiil today would be a much better place.
Not many times I support ZOS' stance on PvP but got to say, this is one of them.
As one of those PvP players who "throws a tantrum when I can't get carried by my sets to crush PvErs and clueless zergs to give myself a fragile sense of power and superiority over others" I will be taking vengeance week off. You see, I'm not a fan of the toxic PvE community that continuously make statements like the one from you I've quoted.
I've put in the time to be good at live Cyrodiil PvP. I'm not going to help ZOS throw all my years of time and effort into the trash bin.