code65536 wrote: »

So there IS sharing for the repeatable dailies that matter, and sharing is encouraged in the same way that the sharing of overland dailies are encouraged. The minor dailies picked up from within the districts cannot be shared, but those quests don't really matter anyway.

Now if this was explained somewhere in game, even if just in the F1 help menu under the event section, that would be awesome. This forum is educational in a way that the game itself could learn a lot from.

So tonight I will just blitz through the rest of the intro quest to unlock those dailies and then focus on those and ignore burning the propaganda and finding the corpses in the nooks and whatnot. I have to miss half the event but hopefully I can still unlock the dye and finish the Golden Pursuit if nothing else.

Thank you for doing Talos' work, code65536!

@ZOS_Kevin , these are some of the many pain points I have, and are in no particular order.

1. FOMO - the fear of missing out - and a content format that preys on that. It's the biggest thing I've seen since Seasons started. Tamriel Tomes, the Night Market, and the upcoming Veterancy system all offer something that will be gone if you don't get it in time. This creates high engagement - as you have multitudes of players scrambling to collect everything before they've missed their chance - but low entertainment - as everything becomes a chore.

2. Time. I've found a mismatch between the PR team's desire to respect player time and the content that is being produced with - presumably - this mindset in effect. When endeavors were still around, my sessions lasted a maximum of 30 minutes (up to 3 hours during Whitestrake's, because that's awful) - I did my daily crafting, I checked my antiquities and dug up anything about to expire, and did my one-two-three daily endeavors and contributed to the weekly endeavor a little; done! Now, I can go chat with my guildmates, do other content, or - I dunno - go touch grass for a bit. With Tamriel Tomes, I am seeing a MASSIVE increase to my time spent playing as I struggle to grind through tedious tasks - personal time-tracking sees playtime of ~4 hours per week with endeavors jump to ~10.5 per week with Tamriel Tomes.

3. Experimental content philosophy. Rich Lambert once said that, when the developers change content, they enter into a lose-lose situation where some players like the way it was and some players like the new way, and the developers get paralyzed because now someone will be upset regardless of whether they choose to keep or rollback the change. I think this applies to the idea of "experimental content" that has been discussed recently. If you add something to the live game to see if players will like it, and pull it out if they don't like it, you're going to have a group of players who are upset that it's gone now - that's what the public test server is for. If you're not getting enough people to test new content on the public test server, that's not a license to throw it into the live game and see what people think of it there; make the public test server more visible if you want more people to test your experimental content.

4. Toggles. This game is in desperate need of some toggles that won't have a large effect on gameplay, but accommodate a single player's interests client-side. I like my cool helmet, but I never wear it because it pops into thin air when I go to the crafting tables for my daily writs - let me choose whether to take my hat off. I knew naked people would be a thing because it's an MMO and people like to be silly sometimes - so do I, occasionally - but when I'm trying to roleplay and a butt-naked player walks in, stands on the counter, and starts dancing, my experience is deliberately disrupted by someone else's fun; now with "hide X", this has become far more common - let me toggle chest and legs client-side AT LEAST.

5. Content focus. I will concede that it was annoying to have to wait ~3 months between releases prior to the launch of seasons, but the releases were understandable (this is coming, it will contain this, and I can expect this, and - most importantly - I can get used to it before the next content drops). While new content dropping every month is extremely eye-catching, it bloats the game's size requirement, leaves existing content susceptible to thinned-out populations, and runs the risk of missing the mark (see experimental content). It also means time is being dedicated to adding the next shiny thing instead of covering long-standing gaps, such as missing zones (Whiterun, Eastern Cyrodiil, Central Black Marsh) or game systems (no new Tribute patrons or companions last year and doesn't seem likely for this year). The pivot to monthly drops feels like a quantity-over-quality trade-off. We are gaining new "features", but losing the depth of world-building and the reliability of the quarterly update cycle.

Why do people always loose it when content comes out that doesnt appeal to them - this isnt your game, its all our game. Different players in such a large online game obviously enjoy different aspects and you can massively increase your own enjoyment by being open for new aspects and experiences.
Over the past 10 years i started to engage with every aspect of the game and am much happier for it.
Besides, the next 2 seasons will bring the story content you are looking for...

Tzirzhalir wrote: »

So Night market is catered to 5% of players(uh, elitists-cough) while the 95% (normal folk)suffer. What an intriguing idea. I can see why the "seasons" era is nothing more than a cover for maintenance mode and in 5 years from now this game will be down the toilet and will no longer be around. It's not about getting good, it's about having an "event" that caters to all of the community.

in 10 years this the 1st event for VETERANS think on that number and for 10 of them players has been asking for harder overland and a VET LEVEL playground like old day crag was ..

For years, we've been getting easier and easier content that doesn't require anything from the player — it just holds your hand with "click here to claim your reward". Most events were simply about showing up.

Finally, after all these years, we've gotten something interesting, engaging, and highly social. For me, this is a wonderful breath of fresh air. I'm not saying every event should be like this, but it's great that there's AT LEAST ONE! Congratulations ZOS, awesome job!

Scaletho wrote: »

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And WHY, ZOS, you create another stuff EXCLUSIVELY FOR GROUPS? Do you despise solo players that much???
...".

Yes. Simple as that.

Razmirra wrote: »

Why is the Thousand Eyes so much ahead of the other two factions by at least two to three times? What's so special about joining this one and if the score doesn't reset occasionally (1x/week), then there is no competition aspect given how much ahead they are of Glittering and Ruckus.

The PVP crowd flooded a PVE event, for the mask set that has usage in PVP.
Is that plain and simple.

I went against the guilds, who all pushed for Thousands Eyes, and picked Ruckus simply because want to help a fellow Khajii brother. And Kharakhal Moon-Eye looks like a cool fellow. 😁

Razmirra wrote: »

I went with Ruckus due to the dye not being shiny on cloth material, and I hate shiny dyes on clothes. That and being biased for Khajiit (and in the RP community as well)..

People are definitely sleeping on Ruckus Red. Sure you could have gold dye #43 or a teal that will look good on precisely 3 motifs, but a good matte dark red dye will fit into way more outfits.

SANGUARI wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

People are making it sound like we can just go into the Night Market solo and run around with a zerg-- "soft-grouped," I guess you would call it. But when I went in on PCEU a short while ago, I couldn't see any other players around, and I got insta-killed (twice) by the first "mob" I encountered just inside the entry to the zone, so I'm not sure how I'm supposed to find any other players to zerg around with.

And I won't even get into how long it took me just to find the plaza so I could do the introductory quest, because I was running around Fargrave looking for a way in-- but apparently the only way to get in is to take a wayshrine in? So that was fun.

I want to give this new group content a chance-- and yes, I know it's group content, not solo content-- but it seems to be on the level of difficulty of a hard-mode veteran trial or something. I don't expect everything in the game to be accessible for me and completable by me, but I'm hoping to at least give this new content a chance before deciding whether to pkay it or forget it. Unfortunately, I'm not sure I'll even be able to give it a try, the way it's looking right now.

Maybe it will be different on PCNA, but PCEU is looking like a complete no-go at the hours when I play, because apparently there aren't enough players online at those hours who are interested in this new content.

You’re wrong, just type +zerg tomorrow I’ll carry you :P we already smashed 2750 points, EUPC.

Don’t get why you want harder overworld content. First time there’s anything slightly challenging and forum is full of “I can’t solo group content” posts xD hello, this is MMO.

Event isn’t even hard. Also you can completely skip it, just get your motif and don’t continue, there’s not even that much reward in it.

Game is already extremely easy, only vet trials and DLC dungeons are actually fun.

Stop pushing this, I’m afraid they’ll take it in the wrong direction.

Sorry but this is a step in the wrong direction. 😅

But is it really skill based? I mean if yall really want a challenge why not play a real hardcore mode?

If you die, delete your character. No soul gems, no resurrections, no retrieving gear. Go right to character select screen and delete.