Dissapointed That Nocturnal Looks Like a Budget Cosplayer

Aliyavana

Elissae wrote: »

Not only her visual representation is terrible, I found the voice acting to be a letdown as well tbh.
"Ooh I'm such a villain, hear how evil I sound." It's such a stereotypical B-movie kind of voice.

I love the expansion, but Nocturnal is a disappointment.

"I AM NOCTURNAL! THE NIGHT IS FOREVEEEEER" Voice line cracks me up in Abyssal Geyshers

Abysswarrior45

Console versions of ESO are nearly unplayable and this is what you want fixed???

Minyassa

I have to say that morph looks like they didn't even try. I mean at least teach whoever is in charge of NPC models how to use the morphing dials. Bland face, no hair, and bland costume that we've all seen a thousand times over now. Even some accessories to the costume that PCs don't get or can't combine that way would've given her a much more unique look.

Elissae

Abysswarrior45 wrote: »

Console versions of ESO are nearly unplayable and this is what you want fixed???

Yes. The Art&Animation team shouldn't have any involvement with the performance&technical teams.

ak_pvp

Aliyavana wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

hmsdragonfly wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

You cant say that she was done without efforts. In TES she looks like woman in specific dress. And we got this dress in crown store, so obviously she was done as generic woman with this dress.
It is game engine that not allow to make it look as attractive as you want.
For example compare how things looks on game engine and art:
Almalexia

How she in ESO:


And compare to Legends art:

Or Golden Saint:

How it look in ESO (not completely her, but npc look similar to ordinary race, only gear is different):


And compare to Legends art:

Difference is drastical and its not developers to blame about it.

Mephala looks good:

Lore-wise, is that really Mephala in Arteum? I thought they only use vessels when outside their own realm? Are they vulnerable if they appear in their true form when outside their realm?

Technically I believe they can only not directly appear in nirn unless certain circumstances, but arteum isn't currently in nirn so its fair game. Plus she was invited by sotha sil himself

When the dragonfires are down, which they are in ESO, they can enter nirn, most of the princes won't thanks to sotha's pact,. But as for her fully being in, no, its just an avatar of hers.

Abysswarrior45

Console versions of ESO are nearly unplayable and this is what you want fixed???

Elissae wrote: »

Abysswarrior45 wrote: »

Console versions of ESO are nearly unplayable and this is what you want fixed???

Yes. The Art&Animation team shouldn't have any involvement with the performance&technical teams.

But money should be spent elsewhere.

Aliyavana

Lol, zos why is the statue better looking?

Incognitius

Aliyavana wrote: »

Lol, zos why is the statue better looking?

Is she standing on a pedestal with her robe draped around it? Otherwise I don't know how that leg would work. o_O

Aliyavana

Incognitius wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

Lol, zos why is the statue better looking?

Is she standing on a pedestal with her robe draped around it? Otherwise I don't know how that leg would work. o_O

shes a daedric prince, she can float while dissing the haters. I hope zos updates nocturnal to look like this so that she will look actually elegant

SilverIce58

Aliyavana wrote: »

Lol, zos why is the statue better looking?

This is probably the first statue besides Vaermina that ive wanted. Due to the nature of the crates tho, I know I won't get it, but it's nice to dream.(lol)

Aliyavana

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

Lol, zos why is the statue better looking?

This is probably the first statue besides Vaermina that ive wanted. Due to the nature of the crates tho, I know I won't get it, but it's nice to dream.(lol)

Mephala is also nice, and looks like her statue.

Incognitius

Aliyavana wrote: »

Incognitius wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

Lol, zos why is the statue better looking?

Is she standing on a pedestal with her robe draped around it? Otherwise I don't know how that leg would work. o_O

shes a daedric prince, she can float while dissing the haters. I hope zos updates nocturnal to look like this so that she will look actually elegant

Ah, of course she floats. And rather more elegantly than in the Summerset main quest.

Jhalin

Nocturnal may as well been in a t-pose the entire time and it would have felt about the same

kentgreigrwb17_ESO

True observation. Set the bar too low on that daedra design.

A_Silverius

SilverIce58 wrote: »

This is probably the first statue besides Vaermina that ive wanted. Due to the nature of the crates tho, I know I won't get it, but it's nice to dream.(lol)

Wtf they put the statue in the crown crates?? Why ZO$ Why? Just let us buy them from the crown store please T_T

Mannix1958

Wow has this ever been beaten to death. I found her acceptable and not nearly as bad as being whined about. I'm in the "there are far better things to be addressed than this" crowd...but after 7 pages I had to say way over the top on this complaint.

Chaos2088

I know the lore does state she does look like just a human woman in a cloak, but this is an mmo, was expecting something a little bit more demon looking...

...Pale skin, bright violet eyes, clothes abit more flowing and robe like, something that did scream mistress of the darkness!

....did feel I was playing against mini boss. Hey when a Evergloom DLC come out where we get to properly go to the Evergloom (not gunna be a while I think but down the road) not just small pockets of it, and/if we get to actually battle and defeat her (not a minion of hers) like we did with Molag-Bal, hopefully she will look more badass then.

Cuthceol

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Cuthceol

"Guys, we forgot to design our main villain and we don't have any budget/time left" is something I can't help imagining were said on the design team. With all the wonderful work they've done earlier and in other bits of summerset (even NPCs from side quests) it's just so very hard to believe that they planned this design all along. It's so obviously done in a hurry, just an existing dress designed for much smaller models slapped on a completely normal looking (albeit oversized) woman. Oh, and sometimes purple fire in her hands I guess.

And the dress doesn't even suit her. Nothing myserious or nightly about it, nothing at all that says nocturnal. She looks more like an oversized Dibella cultist.

And she's bald, probably because of the dress. On her statue she has nice flowing hair under the hood, spilling out from it even, but in that blue thing you can easily see there's no hair at all under her hood.

they started with mephala, ran short of time and hurriedly did vile but only had the lunch break left to do nocturnal

HidesFromSun

Yeah I have to agree. Really disappointed me tbh, even Clavicus looked better!

Aliyavana

Derlfak wrote: »

Yeah I have to agree. Really disappointed me tbh, even Clavicus looked better!

clavicus was essentially a skaafin with some nice attire to him and it really fit him. It wasn't a problem as it looked daedric

idk

Abysswarrior45 wrote: »

Console versions of ESO are nearly unplayable and this is what you want fixed???

Not related. If consoles are having performance issues it is done by different teams that those that do character design and such.

While I do not expect Zos to go back and redo this the right way, it is sad to see such a poor attempt in the first place to what otherwise is a good story.

Zachary_Shadow

I was thinking the same thing when we first saw the daedric princes. Clavicus appeared and I was like, "OMG, IT'S ACTUALLY HIM! WE ARE F*****, RED ALERT, DAEDRIC PRINCE." Mephala appeared and I was like, "Oh blessed Mephala, please don't kill me, you are absolutely terrifying to look at (in an amazing way) and yet I still love it."

Then Nocturnal appeared and I thought, "Who's the cosplayer? This is a joke, right?" I loved the main quest, I loved how certain characters came into play, even from previous storylines; however, this was the biggest let down. I think they really dropped the ball on her and I hope they do a redesign. It wouldn't be that hard to implement, I believe. Until they do a redesign, I'm holding back on doing the main quest on my alt characters. I want to relive the main quest again, but not with the current Nocturnal design.

Lyserus

Commenting to keep the thread alive

When are we getting an official respond?

SilverIce58

I wonder if over the years (since this is the 2nd Era, and her better appearance is in the 4th Era) she got fed up with people being let down when they saw her that she just decided to change. Like she appears to her loyal followers, and they're all like "oh, you're Nocturnal? Yeah, right."

Casterial

SPOILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLERS?!

A_Silverius

SilverIce58 wrote: »

I wonder if over the years (since this is the 2nd Era, and her better appearance is in the 4th Era) she got fed up with people being let down when they saw her that she just decided to change. Like she appears to her loyal followers, and they're all like "oh, you're Nocturnal? Yeah, right."

Nice one xD

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Aliyavana wrote: »

Derlfak wrote: »

Yeah I have to agree. Really disappointed me tbh, even Clavicus looked better!

clavicus was essentially a skaafin with some nice attire to him and it really fit him. It wasn't a problem as it looked daedric

Clavicus Vile appeared during the Keyes books and he wasn't terribly intimidating then either. IMO that's fine for him; he's the Daedric Prince of Bargains after all, and it's hard to bargain with someone when they scream and run in the opposite direction as soon as they look at you. And in any case, he wasn't showing up for the final boss fight, so not being dressed for it is less of an issue.

Nocturnal on the other hand...after that cool shadows-engulfing-everything trick she's pulled (twice now!), she should be going for the intimidation factor, or look aloof and untouchable...she should not look like she just showered and threw on a bathrobe before showing up for the fight.

Hurbster

TBH, seeing as we have not had a response so far....

Maybe after E3 ?

Royaji

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Nocturnal on the other hand...after that cool shadows-engulfing-everything trick she's pulled (twice now!), she should be going for the intimidation factor, or look aloof and untouchable...she should not look like she just showered and threw on a bathrobe before showing up for the fight.

Well, considering she was not really planning to show up for that fight at all... She was kinda about to become one of the most powerful creatures in the whole universe and she might have decided to get a quick shower to look all nice and fancy at her victory party. Maybe she was not expecting our hero to storm into the tower, sacrificing all his friends and killing all her servants while they are at it, and forcing her into that fight. So yeah, of course Nocturnal had to grab a bath robe and show up as soon as she could before her plan was foiled.