Dissapointed That Nocturnal Looks Like a Budget Cosplayer

hmsdragonfly

She looks like you take the default Redguard model and slap the crownstore outfit on her.

I guess it's because of small indie company?

Aliyavana

hmsdragonfly wrote: »

She looks like you take the default Redguard model and slap the crownstore outfit on her.

I guess it's because of small indie company?

I have guildies with redguards that look better than nocturnal does in the dress

Cinbri

You cant say that she was done without efforts. In TES she looks like woman in specific dress. And we got this dress in crown store, so obviously she was done as generic woman with this dress.
It is game engine that not allow to make it look as attractive as you want, you have to use imagination.
For example compare how things looks on game engine and art:
Almalexia in eso and with artistic imagination in Legends

How she in ESO:


And compare to Legends art:

Or Golden Saint:

How it look in ESO (not completely her, but npc look similar to ordinary race, only gear is different):


And compare to Legends art:

Difference is drastical and its not developers to blame about it.

hmsdragonfly

Cinbri wrote: »

You cant say that she was done without efforts. In TES she looks like woman in specific dress. And we got this dress in crown store, so obviously she was done as generic woman with this dress.
It is game engine that not allow to make it look as attractive as you want.
For example compare how things looks on game engine and art:
Almalexia

How she in ESO:


And compare to Legends art:

Or Golden Saint:

How it look in ESO (not completely her, but npc look similar to ordinary race, only gear is different):


And compare to Legends art:

Difference is drastical and its not developers to blame about it.

Mephala looks good:



Why can't Nocturnal? Of course it's not the engine's fault here, we all know that, there's no point blaming the engine here when as a matter of fact you can make custom character with this engine.

It's not about making her look as good as in the concept art, with the decision of taking the default Redguard model and slapping a crownstore costume on her, she looks bland and boring in the concept herself. Your argument of Golden Saints and Almalexia makes no sense. Golden Saints are Daedra creatures, they are like those "Bears" or "Pact Soldiers" you find all over the game. Almalexia is a Dark Elf so ofcourse she looks like a Dark Elf, but she still looks unique and has a unique costume, so does Vivec, so does Sotha Sil.

jlmurra2

I finished the Summerset main quest yesterday. This stood out to me as well. Mephala looked good, but Nocturnal looked really off.

Strider__Roshin

PC obviously can't handle PS3 graphics.

Cinbri

hmsdragonfly wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

You cant say that she was done without efforts. In TES she looks like woman in specific dress. And we got this dress in crown store, so obviously she was done as generic woman with this dress.
It is game engine that not allow to make it look as attractive as you want.
For example compare how things looks on game engine and art:
Almalexia

How she in ESO:


And compare to Legends art:

Or Golden Saint:

How it look in ESO (not completely her, but npc look similar to ordinary race, only gear is different):


And compare to Legends art:

Difference is drastical and its not developers to blame about it.

Mephala looks good:



Why can't Nocturnal? Of course it's not the engine's fault here, we all know that, there's no point blaming the engine here when clearly you can make custom character with this engine as a matter of fact.

It's not about making her look as good as in the concept art, with the decision of taking the default Redguard model and slapping a crownstore custome on her, she looks bland and boring in the concept herself.

She looks like dunmer woman with bright eyes in special outfit and spider legs, i.e. like her statue does, same as Nocturnal.
But Mephala indeed looks much cooler coz her basic concept is cool, unlike Nocturnal who is just half nude female.

Davadin

when playing on an intel 7th gen onboard VGA on my Dell laptop...

....looks pretty great in-game, tbh.

SirMewser

RedRook wrote: »

Do you ever like anything?

I found a few things he likes...

Aliyavana wrote: »

idk but I like killing nbs as they try to cloak away

Aliyavana wrote: »

And why? I like killing those plotting nightblades.

hmsdragonfly

Cinbri wrote: »

hmsdragonfly wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

You cant say that she was done without efforts. In TES she looks like woman in specific dress. And we got this dress in crown store, so obviously she was done as generic woman with this dress.
It is game engine that not allow to make it look as attractive as you want.
For example compare how things looks on game engine and art:
Almalexia

How she in ESO:


And compare to Legends art:

Or Golden Saint:

How it look in ESO (not completely her, but npc look similar to ordinary race, only gear is different):


And compare to Legends art:

Difference is drastical and its not developers to blame about it.

Mephala looks good:



Why can't Nocturnal? Of course it's not the engine's fault here, we all know that, there's no point blaming the engine here when clearly you can make custom character with this engine as a matter of fact.

It's not about making her look as good as in the concept art, with the decision of taking the default Redguard model and slapping a crownstore custome on her, she looks bland and boring in the concept herself.

She looks like dunmer woman with bright eyes in special outfit and spider legs, i.e. like her statue does, same as Nocturnal.
But Mephala indeed looks much cooler coz her basic concept is cool, unlike Nocturnal who is just half nude female.

Almalexia is a Dark Elf so ofcourse she looks like a Dark Elf. Should a Dark Elf look like a Breton instead? I think not.
Even so Almalexia has a special outfit. Does Nocturnal? No she doesn't. Nocturnal's character model is just a default Redguard woman character model, and she has a crownstore costume on her. So much for a Daedric Prince. I guess I can slap that crownstore costume on my Redguard character and tadaaaaa I am Nocturnal. This is pathetic actually.

SilverIce58

Cinbri wrote: »

You cant say that she was done without efforts. In TES she looks like woman in specific dress. And we got this dress in crown store, so obviously she was done as generic woman with this dress.
It is game engine that not allow to make it look as attractive as you want, you have to use imagination.
For example compare how things looks on game engine and art:
Almalexia in eso and with artistic imagination in Legends

How she in ESO:


And compare to Legends art:

Or Golden Saint:

How it look in ESO (not completely her, but npc look similar to ordinary race, only gear is different):


And compare to Legends art:

Difference is drastical and its not developers to blame about it.

Don't try to pull that sh** with Ayem. She looks A-mazing in the game. So too do Seht and Vehk. Nocturnal is literally a redguard with the robe, when she could've been so much more.

Corrinos

What did you expect? Increased monetization of crates and virtual goodies is clearly ZOS' primary agenda.

Shawn_PT

What if... the daedric costume/roleplay contest was a clever ploy to get players to create an amazing Nocturnal avatar which they would then draw inspiration from (or copy) instead of making new assets? In failing, default NPC with crown store costume. Job done.

tim99

Nocturnal? Mephala? Dont remember, just rushed through the quests while trying to kill everything during running, so i dont have to to make a stop for fights. But i remember the endboss sequence was way too long, because someone talked something and i had to wait for that to finish.
Nerf dialogues! And I mean it!

Tyrobag

When I first saw her I was like "Who the heck is that?" Why does she suddenly have the appearance of a poorly dressed & bald reguard, while her Shrikes (which are the Daedra made in her image) look like she did in Skyrim? they could have literally taken one of the shrikes they already had and put her in the nocturnal costume, and that would have been better. Really, they should have done it properly and also had crows sitting on her arms and shadows swirling around her, which would have been fairly easy to do.

As is the only thing about her at all that looks "Nocturnal-ish" is the costume, which was never that well done to start with..

DarknessShallFall

I tend to have to agree, even on PTS she looked horrible. I understand that there is high demands for more content way more then they can produce at the speeds users want, but sometimes, speeding things up isn't the best thing to do. She looks really pixalated too when you see (SPOILER AHEAD HERE) her massive head-shot projection on the crystal tower. It looks pretty bad.

Don't get me wrong, I don't know if I can do better since I cant draw humans, nor have I used any 3D software, but she looks like a normal human, with just a lot of power and bigger. >.> Even the outfit and costumes are horrible, pixalated, and full of holes... literally... For the outfit, if you block, you can see under your arm, open sky, like you have floating arms almost. Of course I haven't worn that costume really since it came out so I still do not know if its like that or not, it needs more texture and shading.

Do not get me wrong, its not that bad... but Nocturnal looks more like a character from, I dunno, WildStar? I don't really have a good comparison off the top of my head. Hopefully with time, she'll have an appearance update. But I do agree, she doesn't look her best, maybe she forgot her morning makeup, or woke up on the wrong side of... whatever a daedric prince might sleep on.

Elissae

I'm loving the Chapter, but one of the few criticisms I have has to be the letdown of Nocturnal's model and outfit.

themaddaedra

Well that picture you got is one of Nocturnal's three appearances. Tho i agree it's bit disappointing, it seems better in this one?

JohnOfMarkarth

Mephala's appearance: "Am the Mofo Mephala!"
Nocturnal's Appearance: *arrives to ComiCon* "Hello am Ania At-Artura... aka... Nocturnal, in this costume. Am a Redguard so I guess... I just put some cultist clothes on. Pretty hawttie!"
The players: "Why do dis?!?"

SilverIce58

themaddaedra wrote: »

Well that picture you got is one of Nocturnal's three appearances. Tho i agree it's bit disappointing, it seems better in this one?

That's really worse tbh. The closer it gets, the worse it gets.

AlienatedGoat

Aliyavana wrote: »

When will we get this as a player costume?

Asking for a friend.

themaddaedra

SilverIce58 wrote: »

themaddaedra wrote: »

Well that picture you got is one of Nocturnal's three appearances. Tho i agree it's bit disappointing, it seems better in this one?

That's really worse tbh. The closer it gets, the worse it gets.

I'm guessing it could be the gloam itself that bothers you all then. Leythen also looked way worse than original after getting gloamed.

Not sure if we could see Nocturnal without the gloam tho, it's what she's all about.

nimander99

Nm of a spoiler... But yeah... Idk... Its been so long since I completed the main quest, wasn't it Nocturnal wo aided us in defeating Molag?

Aliyavana

LOL HER STATUE LOOKS BETTER THAN HER

Aliyavana

more pictures of minions that look more like nocturnal than nocturnal does

starkerealm

hmsdragonfly wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

hmsdragonfly wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

You cant say that she was done without efforts. In TES she looks like woman in specific dress. And we got this dress in crown store, so obviously she was done as generic woman with this dress.
It is game engine that not allow to make it look as attractive as you want.
For example compare how things looks on game engine and art:
Almalexia

How she in ESO:


And compare to Legends art:

Or Golden Saint:

How it look in ESO (not completely her, but npc look similar to ordinary race, only gear is different):


And compare to Legends art:

Difference is drastical and its not developers to blame about it.

Mephala looks good:



Why can't Nocturnal? Of course it's not the engine's fault here, we all know that, there's no point blaming the engine here when clearly you can make custom character with this engine as a matter of fact.

It's not about making her look as good as in the concept art, with the decision of taking the default Redguard model and slapping a crownstore custome on her, she looks bland and boring in the concept herself.

She looks like dunmer woman with bright eyes in special outfit and spider legs, i.e. like her statue does, same as Nocturnal.
But Mephala indeed looks much cooler coz her basic concept is cool, unlike Nocturnal who is just half nude female.

Almalexia is a Dark Elf so ofcourse she looks like a Dark Elf. Should a Dark Elf look like a Breton instead? I think not.
Even so Almalexia has a special outfit. Does Nocturnal? No she doesn't. Nocturnal's character model is just a default Redguard woman character model, and she has a crownstore costume on her. So much for a Daedric Prince. I guess I can slap that crownstore costume on my Redguard character and tadaaaaa I am Nocturnal. This is pathetic actually.

Amusingly, in Skyrim, Nocturnal was just a default Nord woman with a unique costume. (Technically, she may have had a unique facegen, but still, something you could replicate.)

Back in TES3, Almalexia (and Vivec) had entirely unique meshes.

AlienatedGoat

Aliyavana wrote: »

more pictures of minions that look more like nocturnal than nocturnal does

I need it NAO.

...I mean, my friend does.

Faulgor

themaddaedra wrote: »

Well that picture you got is one of Nocturnal's three appearances. Tho i agree it's bit disappointing, it seems better in this one?

She looks like a slightly upset baby instead of the sinister primal force of darkness seeking infinite power.
I have no issue making her a Redguard, but they really didn't put her personality into it at all. The appearance doesn't even fit her current voice.

SilverIce58

themaddaedra wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

themaddaedra wrote: »

Well that picture you got is one of Nocturnal's three appearances. Tho i agree it's bit disappointing, it seems better in this one?

That's really worse tbh. The closer it gets, the worse it gets.

I'm guessing it could be the gloam itself that bothers you all then. Leythen also looked way worse than original after getting gloamed.

Not sure if we could see Nocturnal without the gloam tho, it's what she's all about.

It's not the gloam, it's the character model.

inclinations

I have to agree with this, I was amazed by Mephala. Nocturnal did not look like a daedric prince at all. Bad move zos.