Should Dueling in Cities be a Crime

SteveCampsOut

What is your response to people deliberately dueling in inappropriate areas like the banking and crafting areas in your towns and cities?

starsands

Yes, I'll wait to see if it dies down before I cancel my subscription.

My immersion is broken, please fix it zos.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Maybe....

Ill check back in a month after the initial appeal wears off a bit. Haha. I think practically speaking, a guard would try to stop a dual if they saw one. The growing sentiment seems to be that dueling is an amazing feature, but perhaps shouldn't happen in super crowded areas, if for no other reason that places like Deshaan dont need more stability issues.

wayfarerx

Yes, but boys will be boys.

I'll admit it's annoying, but not game breaking for me. I'd like to see the guards react negatively to it for immersive reasons. I mean why would the guards just let two people full-on murder each other but give me grief because I accidentally stole a fish next to a guild trader?

AzraelKrieg

No.

It's annoying at first but eh. I see no harm in a little bit of fisty-cuffs in the cities. Also, why the hell would dueling affect you that much that you'd cancel your sub over it. It's just two people having fun and testing their builds while people look on watching a good match. This stuff has been happening in PvP for a while now in locations that are unlikely to get noticed.

Thevampirenight

Yes, but boys will be boys.

Yes they do need to make it where the guards will come and break up the duel. if an npc sees you while in a major city when you start the duel a pop up will show the guards are coming to break it up and 10 seconds later they will break it up.
This needs to be done I think. Also another thing is they are going to need to add a thing that prevents the uses of any combat ability or any weapon while in banks, respec areas as well as a bounty high one for starting a fight in a crafting area.

SteveCampsOut

Yes, I've Canceled my Suscription

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

It's annoying at first but eh. I see no harm in a little bit of fisty-cuffs in the cities. Also, why the hell would dueling affect you that much that you'd cancel your sub over it. It's just two people having fun and testing their builds while people look on watching a good match. This stuff has been happening in PvP for a while now in locations that are unlikely to get noticed.

Um, maybe because it's not just "Two" people engaging in fistiecuffs! It's 10 or more people in the Eldenroot Banking and crafting area spamming Meteor, Aedric Shards, Pulsar and any other magic spam of death that you can think of while people are trying to peacefully search guild stores, do their banking and crafting writs.

Taylor_MB

No.

How is this seriously an issue for so many people? There are so many balance issues and bugs with this game that need to be addressed, but people are up in arms about people actually improving their fighting skills in a central place where they can get fights back to back?

It truly boggles the mind.

Preemptively: As someone with almost constant 300+ ping and a location very far away from server, dueling in towns has not reduced performance in any way.

AzraelKrieg

No.

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

It's annoying at first but eh. I see no harm in a little bit of fisty-cuffs in the cities. Also, why the hell would dueling affect you that much that you'd cancel your sub over it. It's just two people having fun and testing their builds while people look on watching a good match. This stuff has been happening in PvP for a while now in locations that are unlikely to get noticed.

Um, maybe because it's not just "Two" people engaging in fistiecuffs! It's 10 or more people in the Eldenroot Banking and crafting area spamming Meteor, Aedric Shards, Pulsar and any other magic spam of death that you can think of while people are trying to peacefully search guild stores, do their banking and crafting writs.

That is no different from before when people would spam skills in Banks and near vendors just for the sake of being bored.

Slurg

wayfarerx wrote: »

I'll admit it's annoying, but not game breaking for me. I'd like to see the guards react negatively to it for immersive reasons. I mean why would the guards just let two people full-on murder each other but give me grief because I accidentally stole a fish next to a guild trader?

^^This.

I didn't vote because there's not just a plain "yes" answer. It should be a crime for the reason above. If people want to risk it anyway when the guards aren't looking that's all good - but it should be treated as a crime if they are spotted.

Also the fights will go much faster once the guards join in.

Edziu

No.

why this should be a crime? all in duel was accepted this fight, this is not a murder, no ambush etc.Do you heard about duel long ago? this was as a crime? I dont think so

Cavedog

Yes, I'll wait to see if it dies down before I cancel my subscription.

In the mean time, maybe duelers can be polite and slightly less lazy and volunteer to take their games outside city limits....or at least a way from the major trade hub trading centers please.

itehache

No.

Why would you unsub because of that? Guys dueling is new and everyone is going crazy about it, give it some time and things will calm down.
Besides, it doesnt affect you anyway xD

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Yes, I've Canceled my Suscription

Edziu wrote: »

why this should be a crime? all in duel was accepted this fight, this is not a murder, no ambush etc.Do you heard about duel long ago? this was as a crime? I dont think so

because you are disturbing the peace.

newtinmpls

Maybe....

It would be SO cool and three-muskateers-y to have the guards come after dueling in cities

Thevampirenight

Yes, but boys will be boys.

Edziu wrote: »

why this should be a crime? all in duel was accepted this fight, this is not a murder, no ambush etc.Do you heard about duel long ago? this was as a crime? I dont think so

For good reason in real life cops would break it up so the folks fighting don't hurt each other or hurt others. Since dueling can accidentally hurt others that get in the way and this is especally true when people are using magic abilties all over the place and also using abilties that could hurt others thus the guard should make sure this is not done in the cities.

SteveCampsOut

Yes, I've Canceled my Suscription

Slurg wrote: »

wayfarerx wrote: »

I'll admit it's annoying, but not game breaking for me. I'd like to see the guards react negatively to it for immersive reasons. I mean why would the guards just let two people full-on murder each other but give me grief because I accidentally stole a fish next to a guild trader?

^^This.

I didn't vote because there's not just a plain "yes" answer. It should be a crime for the reason above. If people want to risk it anyway when the guards aren't looking that's all good - but it should be treated as a crime if they are spotted.

Also the fights will go much faster once the guards join in.

The boys will Be Boys was your Plain Yes answer.

Kram8ion

Yes, but boys will be boys.

Yeah its already annoying me with duelling and I'm on console
Can't wait to have duelling "switched on "
So I can just decline.... meh
Go play smash bros

Edziu

No.

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

why this should be a crime? all in duel was accepted this fight, this is not a murder, no ambush etc.Do you heard about duel long ago? this was as a crime? I dont think so

because you are disturbing the peace.

you have nice problems all, in most of games are dueal, they can dualing everywhere so you wont play in any game where are dueal becaue this "disturbing the peace" for you? go play then in skyrim, minecraft etc if you have simple problem with any duels like people just spamming skills in town because they are bored or something else, just doing something for fun with someone other lol

SteveCampsOut

Yes, I've Canceled my Suscription

itehache wrote: »

Why would you unsub because of that? Guys dueling is new and everyone is going crazy about it, give it some time and things will calm down.
Besides, it doesnt affect you anyway xD

You No people keep saying that! I do not think it means what you think it means! It does affect me. I can't see what I'm trying to read at the banker because of the fooking strobe lights of your magic spam! If that's not a fooking "affect on me", I don't know what is!

CromulentForumID

Taylor_MB wrote: »

How is this seriously an issue for so many people? There are so many balance issues and bugs with this game that need to be addressed, but people are up in arms about people actually improving their fighting skills in a central place where they can get fights back to back?

It truly boggles the mind.

Preemptively: As someone with almost constant 300+ ping and a location very far away from server, dueling in towns has not reduced performance in any way.

So, because other things are broken, people cannot have legitimate complaints about this thing?

Lag and performance aside, you can't see how it would be annoying to have to wade through powers spam and people jumping around all over the place just to go to the bank or craft something? Some people have even posted that there was so much traffic around these areas that they could not even click on tables or the bank to use them. That isn't something worth getting annoyed about?

Most of the complaints about dueling aren't really talking about the function itself. It's more like this:
You have the entirety of the game world to duel, and you need to do it here?

There are probably many compromises that could be made. Players generally aren't interested in those compromises. And that is why people petition the devs for restrictions. Because, really, how inconvenient is it if you just move your duel outside of the Elden Root tree, or just down the road a bit from the smithy? Your couple of minutes is really that valuable that everyone else should just deal?

LaiTash

No.

Should PvP activities result in a PvE response? Lol. Don't think so.

Cambruin

No.

No, but a duel to death... I dunno, that's hardly a duel and indeed a bit immersion-breaking. I feel a better approach would be to let the players drop to 1% and he who reaches it first yields instead.

Nestor

No need to make it a crime. Just disable Dueling in Towns and Cities

Rohamad_Ali

No.

The dueling just got started and it's a new toy . Give it some time to cool down . Disable it in banks and around trade kiosks but no need to shut it down completely .

Nestor

LaiTash wrote: »

Should PvP activities result in a PvE response? Lol. Don't think so.

PvE'rs have been getting ganked by PvP'rs in Cyrodiil since the game came out.

Taylor_MB

No.

CromulentForumID wrote: »

Taylor_MB wrote: »

How is this seriously an issue for so many people? There are so many balance issues and bugs with this game that need to be addressed, but people are up in arms about people actually improving their fighting skills in a central place where they can get fights back to back?

It truly boggles the mind.

Preemptively: As someone with almost constant 300+ ping and a location very far away from server, dueling in towns has not reduced performance in any way.

So, because other things are broken, people cannot have legitimate complaints about this thing?

Lag and performance aside, you can't see how it would be annoying to have to wade through powers spam and people jumping around all over the place just to go to the bank or craft something? Some people have even posted that there was so much traffic around these areas that they could not even click on tables or the bank to use them. That isn't something worth getting annoyed about?

Most of the complaints about dueling aren't really talking about the function itself. It's more like this:
You have the entirety of the game world to duel, and you need to do it here?

There are probably many compromises that could be made. Players generally aren't interested in those compromises. And that is why people petition the devs for restrictions. Because, really, how inconvenient is it if you just move your duel outside of the Elden Root tree, or just down the road a bit from the smithy? Your couple of minutes is really that valuable that everyone else should just deal?

How inconvenient would it be for you to move your crafting to one of the other dozen cities that have all crafting stations? You don't need to be around other people to craft, duelers need to be around other people to duel.

My first comment was about priorities, sooo many people complaining about other people playing the game in their vicinity instead of focusing on bugs, balance and performance. Unfortunately ZoS will listen and devote time to this non-issue instead of addressing things that actually effect the quality of the game.

Way more people then I realised actually care more about dueling breaking immersion then bugs that break game rules ruining immersion. People saying "guards wouldn't let you murder each other", yeah but we just resurrect, it ain't murder. And then people talking about "real life" in a game with vampires and spells...

RebornV3x

No.

to that 14% can I haz all your stuffs plz also no we finally get a cool feature and the vocal minority want to ruin the fun for everyone.

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO

No.

But I don't think you should be able to duel within city limits..

ForsakenSin

Yes, I'll wait to see if it dies down before I cancel my subscription.

like we didn't have enough of people just standing in deshan spamming their skills like there is no tomorrow while talking, next to them 6 people gambling their gold in which colors engine guardian will proc and now there will be people dueling as well.... great more and more and WAY MORE lag especially with one T ...

Vipstaakki

Yes, but boys will be boys.

YES! For the love of Talos!