Has Paul Sage left ZoS?

JamilaRaj

Pendrillion wrote: »

Pete Hines being there was a certain indicator that things didn't go according to plan.

Indeed, Pete was menacing. Next time they announce P2W, they should bring in Darth Vader to ESO live to make it look more civil and casual.

Attorneyatlawl

Faulgor wrote: »

That the rats are leaving the sinking ship and all that.

I don't know how much influence he had on specific decisions, so it's impossible to tell if this will be good or bad for ESO in the future. But I think I will miss him. He was the face of ESO since the beginning.

If anything, it would mean we may see the user interface options and community features of the game expanded and fixed, which would only be a good thing for the game in the long run. He was a staunch opponent regarding those concerns.

Attorneyatlawl

MisterBigglesworth wrote: »

slipHAZARD wrote: »

jeevin wrote: »

Could be the best thing to happen for the game. Hopefully whoever takes over as "Creative Director" is actually creative.

I'm hoping for a little less "creativity" and a little more comon sense.

Like on his first day, he comes on the forums and realizes "Hey all our fans and customers are asking for standard basic MMO features like Minimaps, Text Chat, Damage Numbers and Buff Indicators... wait why aren't these in the game already?"

Don't forget nameplates! Those were creatively directed out of the game during beta (last seen early 2013).

Yep... they were: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/183978/i-went-on-an-archaeology-expedition-on-my-hard-drive-and-found-the-long-lost-oft-demanded-true-ui .

Lava_Croft

I want to note that Pete Hines being present at the Tamriel Unlimited annoucement is not that strange, considering his job as head honcho of PR and Marketing.

I mean, I would call in the help of a professional if I had to market that ***.

Cogo

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Hi

People change jobs. That's life. However, Paul, Nick and Maria has been very focused devs to us through media.
How does the team look now? Any plans changed? Maybe hired some new hotshot devs?

Tell us to take it easy, or anything? What's the plan?

BigM

It's old news to me, good luck ESOTU!

LrdRahvin

Cogo wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Hi

People change jobs. That's life. However, Paul, Nick and Maria has been very focused devs to us through media.
How does the team look now? Any plans changed? Maybe hired some new hotshot devs?

Tell us to take it easy, or anything? What's the plan?

There has NEVER been a plan (at least a good one) with this game.

It's history has mostly consisted of lurching from one disaster to another.

Elsonso

Armann wrote: »

Looks like Rich Lambert is now Creative Director after Paul Sage left

Source: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richlambert

Awesome.

He was the Lead Content Designer for ESO. His job was to lead the creative development of zones, dungeons, trials, etc.

Pendrillion wrote: »

There was some hubub going between ZOS and Bethsoft. Pete Hines being there was a certain indicator that things didn't go according to plan

Don't read more into Pete Hines being there than might be the case. Pete Hines is the spokesman for the publisher and it is part of his job to be there for major announcements like Tamriel Unlimited. I would have been more concerned if he had phoned it in, not showed up, or delegated to an underling.

Paul Sage might be someone who likes to move around. He was not with ESO to start, but came in mid-development. He may be the type that likes to have a big job to do and really does not like diving into the endless fine tuning. I have worked with people like this.

I am wondering who was Creative Director before him.

Gidorick

Wait. So there's an opening for Creative Director?

Enodoc

Gidorick wrote: »

Wait. So there's an opening for Creative Director?

Maybe so. Even if Rich Lambert has moved in, that still leaves an opening for Lead Content Designer
Go for it, the forums are behind you!

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Psychobunni wrote: »

Darkstorne wrote: »

It is what it is, and it's probably too late to salvage in one direction or the other.

I hope not. I just had this conversation with my husband, I came to ESO for a MMO. While loving the TES line it was the MMO experience I was after. We played LOTRO after vanilla, after turbine took over and the store ....and still LOVED it, even though there are many, many players that hated it from the point we played.

I don't think ESO is "unsalvageable" I think it just needs more options.

Turbine always ran LOTRO from day one. Also DDO as well.

P3ZZL3

Enodoc wrote: »

Go for it, the forums are behind you!

LOL - Not 100% convinced if this would be a good thing

SantieClaws

Well good luck and farewell Mr Sage. We will never forget your shirts.

Ojustaboo

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Psychobunni wrote: »

Darkstorne wrote: »

It is what it is, and it's probably too late to salvage in one direction or the other.

I hope not. I just had this conversation with my husband, I came to ESO for a MMO. While loving the TES line it was the MMO experience I was after. We played LOTRO after vanilla, after turbine took over and the store ....and still LOVED it, even though there are many, many players that hated it from the point we played.

I don't think ESO is "unsalvageable" I think it just needs more options.

Turbine always ran LOTRO from day one. Also DDO as well.

True but in the EU Codemasters ran it for years slightly different patches from the US version (OK Turbine did all the patches) , I suspect that's what they mean. Many felt the EU was run better under codemasters before Turbine took it back,

Merlin13KAGL

eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-29-the-elder-scrolls-online-creative-director-quits-joins-gearbox

So, two of the big names are outta here...

I suspect Matt should either be asking for a raise or posting on Monster right about now.

Attorneyatlawl

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-29-the-elder-scrolls-online-creative-director-quits-joins-gearbox

So, two of the big names are outta here...

I suspect Matt should either be asking for a raise or posting on Monster right about now.

Promotion for @ZOS_BrianWheeler ?

Pallmor

Maybe Zenimax decided that he needed to move on, face new challenges, and spend more time with his family.

Elsonso

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

I suspect Matt should either be asking for a raise or posting on Monster right about now.

I am not sure what type of person Firor is, whether he is a nomad moving from one challenge to another, or whether he is looking for a place that he can nest in for a good long while. I would not be surprised if he is a nomad and is already looking for a new challenge.

Elijah_Crow

I for one would like some clarification of who is stearing the ship and a road map of where it's going.

I pre-purchased the imperial edition and my sub has never lapsed. I've even purchased extra Crowns more out of support for the game, than any need. I've understood from the beginning that the successful launch of console was key to the game's long term health and success and weathered the content drought with everyone else.

Nowadays a game is more than pixels, it's the relationship between the senior team and it's player base and a certain level of transparency is necessary for continued loyalty.

I think it's well past time for a new "The Road Ahead" article.

SantieClaws

It depends if everyone else jumped or was pushed.

If they jumped then there might be good reasons to do so. Either personal reasons or reasons within the company.

If they were pushed then I would be frequently checking my back for knives.

Sotha_Sil

Let's hope this doesn't stop the creation of new content...because they could aswell say "we're done guys, we sold the game on console, bye bye".

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

I doubt Zenimax fired him. He probably got offered more money or a position with more real creative control. Who knows.

BigM

Ojustaboo wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Psychobunni wrote: »

Darkstorne wrote: »

It is what it is, and it's probably too late to salvage in one direction or the other.

I hope not. I just had this conversation with my husband, I came to ESO for a MMO. While loving the TES line it was the MMO experience I was after. We played LOTRO after vanilla, after turbine took over and the store ....and still LOVED it, even though there are many, many players that hated it from the point we played.

I don't think ESO is "unsalvageable" I think it just needs more options.

Turbine always ran LOTRO from day one. Also DDO as well.

True but in the EU Codemasters ran it for years slightly different patches from the US version (OK Turbine did all the patches) , I suspect that's what they mean. Many felt the EU was run better under codemasters before Turbine took it back,

They maintained the servers, the game it self was Turbine with patches ect, still play the game.

Erlex

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

Let's hope this doesn't stop the creation of new content...because they could aswell say "we're done guys, we sold the game on console, bye bye".

There's new content?

SantieClaws

There were cetainly far better community relations and a better flow of information in LOTRO when the EU servers were run by Codies. There was nothing short of a hostile atmosphere when the community was managed by Turbine directly (and via a quite unpopular community manager).

The rot really started when Turbine were bought out by WB.

Sallington

Faulgor wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Nick Konkle left too? That explains why Spell Crafting was delayed I guess.

I don't think it's any sinking ship, but will there be a new Creative Manager for ESO?

Nick Konkle, Maria Aliprando and now Paul Sage are the ones we know about who left ZOS in the months after B2P.

You can include me on that list as well.

Merlin13KAGL

lordrichter wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

I suspect Matt should either be asking for a raise or posting on Monster right about now.

I am not sure what type of person Firor is, whether he is a nomad moving from one challenge to another, or whether he is looking for a place that he can nest in for a good long while. I would not be surprised if he is a nomad and is already looking for a new challenge.

I think I'd have a Plan B in my pocket, just in case, especially for the higher tier positions.

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

I for one would like some clarification of who is stearing the ship and a road map of where it's going.

I pre-purchased the imperial edition and my sub has never lapsed. I've even purchased extra Crowns more out of support for the game, than any need. I've understood from the beginning that the successful launch of console was key to the game's long term health and success and weathered the content drought with everyone else.

Nowadays a game is more than pixels, it's the relationship between the senior team and it's player base and a certain level of transparency is necessary for continued loyalty.

I think it's well past time for a new "The Road Ahead" article.

@Elijah_Crow , what a delightfully accurate analogy, I think.

Steering a ship down the road ahead...

I think that probably sums it up (even if unintentionally!)

Attorneyatlawl

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

I for one would like some clarification of who is stearing the ship and a road map of where it's going.

I pre-purchased the imperial edition and my sub has never lapsed. I've even purchased extra Crowns more out of support for the game, than any need. I've understood from the beginning that the successful launch of console was key to the game's long term health and success and weathered the content drought with everyone else.

Nowadays a game is more than pixels, it's the relationship between the senior team and it's player base and a certain level of transparency is necessary for continued loyalty.

I think it's well past time for a new "The Road Ahead" article.

I agree with the overall sentiment . It's a business transaction, but there's more to it than that for a hobby like playing an MMORPG extensively. I have a hunch we'll be hearing something next week regarding the Imperial City and overall battle plan, but that is purely speculation on my part. I haven't yet spent any crowns, although I have quite a number from the payment model conversion. I plan on using some of them on the Frost Stallion as soon as it's available, but I wouldn't if I didn't already have them otherwise until we heard a little more news. Overall, once there is more of worth (in my opinion) to buy and there's a bit better of a roadmap revealed, I will and have no problem at all with buying crowns and using the ones I have now.

Faugaun

Gidorick wrote: »

Wait. So there's an opening for Creative Director?

Gooooo Gidorick!

SantieClaws

They are supposed to be anouncing something on ESO Live this week aren't they? The one that's on the 2nd to avoid the 4th July holiday.

At least if they don't announce something I don't know what on earth they are going to talk about for an hour.