Sallington wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Sallington wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jcasini222ub17_ESO wrote: »i've always been curious, certainly now as mmo's have larger base of adult gamers, who will make a mmo with promises like ZoS from the start and charge flat monthly 25 to 50 dollars. Somewhere in there, I would jump on it in a heartbeat.
If they tried to charge 25+ noone would pay it. Fact is all MMOs have cash shops. In exchange fo.r not making you pay a sub they sell these convenience things like horse training etc. If they sell that stuff that means I can play for free. I think thats a very good trade.
And MMO's have been getting worse and worse every year since cash shops started being implemented. Just because it's how it is doesn't mean it's how it should be.
EDIT: And if the only way for MMOs to survive is through F2P and cash shops, then they deserve to die.
Well you can either opine for the "good old days" like my grandfather did (rest his soul) or you can accept times have changed.
God forbid I go for the 3rd option of hoping thing turn around for the better.
mrskinskull wrote: »Sallington wrote: »Wait til OP gets to VR1, and wants to just pay ZOS to be VR14 because leveling is too much of a hassle.
If no other players can con me out of leveling up or somehow spawn kill the monster I need to beat to progress then you won't hear a peep.
Again its a game to play. Its not work. Its not an accomplishment like building habitat for humanity.
Vr14 is sadder and higher in time wasted playing a great game. Nothing else. Just have. Fun and stop worrying if people pay to get something.
All that matters to you is that you didn't right?
So again, its a win for everyone.
Oh vr14 , I will be with you my darling.
mrskinskull wrote: »Sallington wrote: »Wait til OP gets to VR1, and wants to just pay ZOS to be VR14 because leveling is too much of a hassle.
If no other players can con me out of leveling up or somehow spawn kill the monster I need to beat to progress then you won't hear a peep.
Again its a game to play. Its not work. Its not an accomplishment like building habitat for humanity.
Vr14 is sadder and higher in time wasted playing a great game. Nothing else. Just have. Fun and stop worrying if people pay to get something.
All that matters to you is that you didn't right?
So again, its a win for everyone.
Oh vr14 , I will be with you my darling.
What you're failing to understand that by placing more and more emphasis on Crown Store sales, no matter what items are there, the game will become more dependent on those sales to maintain server quality. It sets the game down a very negative path of eventually turned completely F2P and stunting further growth/content development/etc.
Actually this is a MMO. It does take work and dedication.
Spectral_Lord wrote: »Evidently the OP is one of the most impatient beings walking this planet.Sallington wrote: »The fix on PC was to wait a couple weeks and to not be a whiny little baby about it.
Sallington wrote: »The fix on PC was to wait a couple weeks and to not be a whiny little baby about it.
mrskinskull wrote: »Spectral_Lord wrote: »Evidently the OP is one of the most impatient beings walking this planet.Sallington wrote: »The fix on PC was to wait a couple weeks and to not be a whiny little baby about it.
People are being tricked out of their money and time right now.
No. I won't wait to suggest a fix.
I have heard at least three instances of troll conning in a month.
Whose whining?
I am constructively engaging the community to suggest a fix for a known problem.
Thanks for posting and raising awareness about the issue though.
filsingerjon wrote: »HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mrskinskull wrote: »Sallington wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jcasini222ub17_ESO wrote: »i've always been curious, certainly now as mmo's have larger base of adult gamers, who will make a mmo with promises like ZoS from the start and charge flat monthly 25 to 50 dollars. Somewhere in there, I would jump on it in a heartbeat.
If they tried to charge 25+ noone would pay it. Fact is all MMOs have cash shops. In exchange for not making you pay a sub they sell these convenience things like horse training etc. If they sell that stuff that means I can play for free. I think thats a very good trade.
And MMO's have been getting worse and worse every year since cash shops starting being implemented. Just because it's how it is doesn't mean it's how it should be.
Truth. It's almost as if they are implementing broken game mechanics only to "fix" them with cash shops.
Nope. Players with low morals found a way to exploit and ruin other players experiences.
Zos prob couldn't have seen this kind of pathetic bite marketing and con theft when they made the game.
They were just making a fun experience. It was the slime trying to profit off of other players that opened the door to the false offers of vamo infection.
Don't for one second try to blame zos for the sad crap the no lifers thought up.
Zos is free to use whatever means they want alleviate the situation of players being robbed by other players.
The crown store is just the simplest most elegant solution.
You're such an idiot, lol.
dabulls7491 wrote: »No, no need to allow the purchase of a skill line for crowns, that would lead to the beginning of the end for this game.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »Spectral_Lord wrote: »Evidently the OP is one of the most impatient beings walking this planet.Sallington wrote: »The fix on PC was to wait a couple weeks and to not be a whiny little baby about it.
People are being tricked out of their money and time right now.
No. I won't wait to suggest a fix.
I have heard at least three instances of troll conning in a month.
Whose whining?
I am constructively engaging the community to suggest a fix for a known problem.
Thanks for posting and raising awareness about the issue though.
You will probably find it best just to not respond to people calling you names. If they cant have a discussion without calling people names maybe they arent worth your time responding to.
No actually I'm under leveled compared to my friends. I work two jobs. No this isn't work like a soldier or doctor. Its easy work but it still takes effort. Stop being such a whiner baby.
mrskinskull wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »Spectral_Lord wrote: »Evidently the OP is one of the most impatient beings walking this planet.Sallington wrote: »The fix on PC was to wait a couple weeks and to not be a whiny little baby about it.
People are being tricked out of their money and time right now.
No. I won't wait to suggest a fix.
I have heard at least three instances of troll conning in a month.
Whose whining?
I am constructively engaging the community to suggest a fix for a known problem.
Thanks for posting and raising awareness about the issue though.
You will probably find it best just to not respond to people calling you names. If they cant have a discussion without calling people names maybe they arent worth your time responding to.
Thanks.
We should try to stay constructive.
mrskinskull wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »Spectral_Lord wrote: »Evidently the OP is one of the most impatient beings walking this planet.Sallington wrote: »The fix on PC was to wait a couple weeks and to not be a whiny little baby about it.
People are being tricked out of their money and time right now.
No. I won't wait to suggest a fix.
I have heard at least three instances of troll conning in a month.
Whose whining?
I am constructively engaging the community to suggest a fix for a known problem.
Thanks for posting and raising awareness about the issue though.
You will probably find it best just to not respond to people calling you names. If they cant have a discussion without calling people names maybe they arent worth your time responding to.
Thanks.
We should try to stay constructive.
Then would you care to consider the alternative methods already presented to you? As it is you have largely been ignoring them or intentionally getting frustration riled up. Crown store is not the only legitimate option, yet you speak as if it is.
This is all I think of when you keep regurgitating this repetitive filth: