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Vampirism and lycnthropy as crown store items?
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Zorrashi✭✭✭✭✭
I disagree. As I've said before, I do not want to encourage zos into thinking that they can monetize everything in this game just because "more money". They need to have quality standards so as to not cheapen their game with their potential 'get richer quicker' schemes. Levels, end game gear, skill lines; if it has a perceived value they shouldn't just automatically put a price tag on it. There has to be a line that they shouldn't allow themselves to cross.mrskinskull wrote: »@mrskinskull you should probably read the forum rules. Specifically the part about not throwing around insults and attacking other posters. As it is, you're most likely going to get banned and get this thread locked.
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Infection in the crown store is a win-win. [...]
ZOS won't 'win' in the long run if they drive away their own customer base by having no standards for their crown store. I mean, it would be one thing if vampirism was only an aesthetic look, but it actually has a dye and skill line associated with it.2 -
jcasini222ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭i've always been curious, certainly now as mmo's have larger base of adult gamers, who will make a mmo with promises like ZoS from the start and charge flat monthly 25 to 50 dollars. Somewhere in there, I would jump on it in a heartbeat.1 -
pecheckler✭✭✭✭✭If 18k is worth 14 dollars than I have enough gold to buy a 60" television.End the tedious inventory management game.1
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Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Wait til OP gets to VR1, and wants to just pay ZOS to be VR14 because leveling is too much of a hassle.Daggerfall Covenant
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CriD✭✭✭Mrskinskull......you seem like an intelligent person, wait...nevermind. You seem like the special kind of stupid that wants games to give more DLC that's included in the game because you like to spend money. Not only is it not hard to contract the disease, like anyone that used an easy button on YOUR mom, but every single week as the bite timer runs out more and more people will get bit. And you better believe they ARE using their bites.
So simple math. Lets say there are 2 players that have the bite ready.
Week 1 (2)
Week 2 (4)
Week 3 (8)
Week 4 (16)
See the point. Except instead of one or two, we have thousands. Each week the community of Vamps or WW will almost double.
Its not the bite on the store that alot of the players are worried about. Its what happens to the future of ESO if ZoS puts something as trivial as a vamp or WW bite in the store...its a whole skill line.
ZoS. I'm not happy that I have leveled slow. Please sell characters at max level (WoW). Please ZoS, screw the XP pots, how much for 100 CP.
Most players that cannot get the bite are not appropriately leveled for the area, yet they expect it because they are entitled and believe in instant gratification. Suck it up. In one or two more weeks Vamps and WW will be easy as *** to get.2 -
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭jcasini222ub17_ESO wrote: »i've always been curious, certainly now as mmo's have larger base of adult gamers, who will make a mmo with promises like ZoS from the start and charge flat monthly 25 to 50 dollars. Somewhere in there, I would jump on it in a heartbeat.
If they tried to charge 25+ noone would pay it. Fact is all MMOs have cash shops. In exchange for not making you pay a sub they sell these convenience things like horse training etc. If they sell that stuff that means I can play for free. I think thats a very good trade.0 -
Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Mrskinskull......you seem like an intelligent person, wait...nevermind. You seem like the special kind of stupid that wants games to give more DLC that's included in the game because you like to spend money. Not only is it not hard to contract the disease, like anyone that used an easy button on YOUR mom, but every single week as the bite timer runs out more and more people will get bit. And you better believe they ARE using their bites.
So simple math. Lets say there are 2 players that have the bite ready.
Week 1 (2)
Week 2 (4)
Week 3 (8)
Week 4 (16)
See the point. Except instead of one or two, we have thousands. Each week the community of Vamps or WW will almost double.
Its not the bite on the store that alot of the players are worried about. Its what happens to the future of ESO if ZoS puts something as trivial as a vamp or WW bite in the store...its a whole skill line.
ZoS. I'm not happy that I have leveled slow. Please sell characters at max level (WoW). Please ZoS, screw the XP pots, how much for 100 CP.
Most players that cannot get the bite are not appropriately leveled for the area, yet they expect it because they are entitled and believe in instant gratification. Suck it up. In one or two more weeks Vamps and WW will be easy as *** to get.
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mrskinskull✭✭✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Just seems to me this would be a great way to make money AND stop all the griefing taking place around the spawns. Reduce the customer service calls. Not only saving them money on support but making money. Thats why I would bet within a few months this will be on the store.
That's what I'm saying.
Its not gonna happen because zos wants it.
Zos prob doesn't even care.
Its the bite trolls that will force zos to have to offer it.
The bite trolls are ending themselves.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭mrskinskull wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Work for it? How is paying some guy a few gold to get infected "working for it"?
Simple.
1. Use the internet to figure out the spawn times and places. This way you don't sit the same spot for a week when they only spawn on a certain moon.
2. Go to a spawn place where there's not 40 people. There is plenty, they don't spawn 1 per spot there's about 5-6 in the general area, there are 4 spawn spots. Which is the same for vamps/ww they just spawn on different moons.
3. Block. You get infected fast.
Done with my 15 minutes of research that me and my friends did when they decided to be vamps. Waiting until new moon, went to spot, 5 mins later, magical vamps appeared, 5 seconds later they were both infected. Sure beats waiting at shrines, spamming inbox's, posting countless threads... they even bite people for free as well after it.
Find a vamp spawn without 80 people at it, lol.
That's rarer than the vamps.
Plus there are players killing the vamps.
You are funny.
A bit slow.
But funny.
Go to the Silver or Gold zone. My sorc just ported there the other day to see if I could find a spawn spot at a location I knew and I found some bloodfiends just steps off the wayshrine and got infected.
I'm quite sure not many players are in the Silver zones yet on console that you can't find a spot that is not being camped.
If you can get to the Gold zones, even better! The spawns happen in The Rift, Bangkorai and Reaper's March and they will spawn in all instances of the zone.
With a little bit of patience, everybody that wants a bite will get one. Putting it in the crown store would take the fun out of it (of course, they could make it so that the Crown store would only sell 1 "bite" every 7 days... :-P)
The timed idea is kind of cool.
Anything to create a legitimate alternative to new players being robbed or conned out of their money.
The console community is epic except for a few slithering bite chargers and worse yet bite troll con men.
Mmmm... I don't think you understood what I meant. I meant that it could only sell 1 bite. To 1 player. Then there would be a 7-day cool-down before another player could buy a bite.
And the way to stop bite trolls is to stop being willing to pay exorbitant amounts of gold for a bite. Unless people are only planning on playing this game for a month, what's the problem with waiting a few weeks until you either find a wild spawn or a player willing to bite you for a reasonable amount?
Again, if you have finished the main quest, go to zone 5 of your Silver zone, and you will find it much quieter there.
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✭✭✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jcasini222ub17_ESO wrote: »i've always been curious, certainly now as mmo's have larger base of adult gamers, who will make a mmo with promises like ZoS from the start and charge flat monthly 25 to 50 dollars. Somewhere in there, I would jump on it in a heartbeat.
If they tried to charge 25+ noone would pay it. Fact is all MMOs have cash shops. In exchange for not making you pay a sub they sell these convenience things like horse training etc. If they sell that stuff that means I can play for free. I think thats a very good trade.
And MMO's have been getting worse and worse every year since cash shops started being implemented. Just because it's how it is doesn't mean it's how it should be.
EDIT: And if the only way for MMOs to survive is through F2P and cash shops, then they deserve to die.Edited by Sallington on 24 June 2015 17:55Daggerfall Covenant
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nastuug✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sallington wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jcasini222ub17_ESO wrote: »i've always been curious, certainly now as mmo's have larger base of adult gamers, who will make a mmo with promises like ZoS from the start and charge flat monthly 25 to 50 dollars. Somewhere in there, I would jump on it in a heartbeat.
If they tried to charge 25+ noone would pay it. Fact is all MMOs have cash shops. In exchange for not making you pay a sub they sell these convenience things like horse training etc. If they sell that stuff that means I can play for free. I think thats a very good trade.
And MMO's have been getting worse and worse every year since cash shops starting being implemented. Just because it's how it is doesn't mean it's how it should be.
Truth. It's almost as if they are implementing broken game mechanics only to "fix" them with cash shops.
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mrskinskull✭✭✭✭coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »I don't understand the logic of these long timers who want to complain about viable financial options in a game they like.
Why sit around trying to shut down an option that would make new or employed players stick around and keep the lights on?
Is it so when zos closes eso's doors you can say I told you that game would fail?
that's not worth anything to anyone.
Many people love this game and are being trolled because of a simple design oversight.
Zos can fix this and benefit new players. There's no down side except you already have your bite and don't want other people working 50 hours a week to enjoy the game as much as you.
Its actually kind of sad.
Go ahead. Argue. Its cute to watch you try.
Because it's people like you that RUIN games faster than even ZOS developers can.
It's a slippery slope. Once things like this show up it's just a matter of time before a game becomes full on P2W. I see it happen to most cash shops. They start out innocently enough and then bit by bit they add actual p2w items.
There are plenty of p2w games out there, stop trying to make this one p2w as well.
The slippery slope is a faulty argument used by all the pointless ignorant. One change does not indicate causality. Its just a change. Embrace it.
Zos prob doesn't even want to do it but they are prob getting overwhelmed by reports of griefing from bite trolls.
The trolls are the ones forcing this.
I agree it will be kind of tacky but it has to happen to protect the players being taken advantage of.
Blame the bite chargers, not the insightful guy explaining to you what has to happen.0 -
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✭mrskinskull wrote: »coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »I don't understand the logic of these long timers who want to complain about viable financial options in a game they like.
Why sit around trying to shut down an option that would make new or employed players stick around and keep the lights on?
Is it so when zos closes eso's doors you can say I told you that game would fail?
that's not worth anything to anyone.
Many people love this game and are being trolled because of a simple design oversight.
Zos can fix this and benefit new players. There's no down side except you already have your bite and don't want other people working 50 hours a week to enjoy the game as much as you.
Its actually kind of sad.
Go ahead. Argue. Its cute to watch you try.
Because it's people like you that RUIN games faster than even ZOS developers can.
It's a slippery slope. Once things like this show up it's just a matter of time before a game becomes full on P2W. I see it happen to most cash shops. They start out innocently enough and then bit by bit they add actual p2w items.
There are plenty of p2w games out there, stop trying to make this one p2w as well.
The slippery slope is a faulty argument used by all the pointless ignorant. One change does not indicate causality. Its just a change. Embrace it.
Zos prob doesn't even want to do it but they are prob getting overwhelmed by reports of griefing from bite trolls.
The trolls are the ones forcing this.
I agree it will be kind of tacky but it has to happen to protect the players being taken advantage of.
Blame the bite chargers, not the insightful guy explaining to you what has to happen.
Or just shut your mouth and give it a few months to level out...2 -
Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭mrskinskull wrote: »coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »I don't understand the logic of these long timers who want to complain about viable financial options in a game they like.
Why sit around trying to shut down an option that would make new or employed players stick around and keep the lights on?
Is it so when zos closes eso's doors you can say I told you that game would fail?
that's not worth anything to anyone.
Many people love this game and are being trolled because of a simple design oversight.
Zos can fix this and benefit new players. There's no down side except you already have your bite and don't want other people working 50 hours a week to enjoy the game as much as you.
Its actually kind of sad.
Go ahead. Argue. Its cute to watch you try.
Because it's people like you that RUIN games faster than even ZOS developers can.
It's a slippery slope. Once things like this show up it's just a matter of time before a game becomes full on P2W. I see it happen to most cash shops. They start out innocently enough and then bit by bit they add actual p2w items.
There are plenty of p2w games out there, stop trying to make this one p2w as well.
The slippery slope is a faulty argument used by all the pointless ignorant. One change does not indicate causality. Its just a change. Embrace it.
Zos prob doesn't even want to do it but they are prob getting overwhelmed by reports of griefing from bite trolls.
The trolls are the ones forcing this.
I agree it will be kind of tacky but it has to happen to protect the players being taken advantage of.
Blame the bite chargers, not the insightful guy explaining to you what has to happen.
Or just shut your mouth and give it a few months to level out...
How dare you say that to such an insightful guy!!!!Daggerfall Covenant
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mrskinskull✭✭✭✭coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »I don't understand the logic of these long timers who want to complain about viable financial options in a game they like.
Why sit around trying to shut down an option that would make new or employed players stick around and keep the lights on?
Is it so when zos closes eso's doors you can say I told you that game would fail?
that's not worth anything to anyone.
Many people love this game and are being trolled because of a simple design oversight.
Zos can fix this and benefit new players. There's no down side except you already have your bite and don't want other people working 50 hours a week to enjoy the game as much as you.
Its actually kind of sad.
Go ahead. Argue. Its cute to watch you try.
Because it's people like you that RUIN games faster than even ZOS developers can.
It's a slippery slope. Once things like this show up it's just a matter of time before a game becomes full on P2W. I see it happen to most cash shops. They start out innocently enough and then bit by bit they add actual p2w items.
There are plenty of p2w games out there, stop trying to make this one p2w as well.
As well as us *Old Timers* we do suggest ways to both make money and improvements we just dont go the whining route.
Look at the difference between my series Improving On ESO and Gidorick's Repository Of brillant Ideas to this thread.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/168288/improving-on-eso-s01e01-player-housing-guild-halls-and-pvp-pve-options/p1[/quote
Sure and that lead them right to a buy to play model with trolls stealing and conning the new players.
Old timers shouldn't bother zos with their pie in the sky wish lists when there are legitimate concerns with easy double win solutions.
Stick with me and I can show you how everybody can win and be happy with a bit of compromise and realistic expectations.
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✭Sallington wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »I don't understand the logic of these long timers who want to complain about viable financial options in a game they like.
Why sit around trying to shut down an option that would make new or employed players stick around and keep the lights on?
Is it so when zos closes eso's doors you can say I told you that game would fail?
that's not worth anything to anyone.
Many people love this game and are being trolled because of a simple design oversight.
Zos can fix this and benefit new players. There's no down side except you already have your bite and don't want other people working 50 hours a week to enjoy the game as much as you.
Its actually kind of sad.
Go ahead. Argue. Its cute to watch you try.
Because it's people like you that RUIN games faster than even ZOS developers can.
It's a slippery slope. Once things like this show up it's just a matter of time before a game becomes full on P2W. I see it happen to most cash shops. They start out innocently enough and then bit by bit they add actual p2w items.
There are plenty of p2w games out there, stop trying to make this one p2w as well.
The slippery slope is a faulty argument used by all the pointless ignorant. One change does not indicate causality. Its just a change. Embrace it.
Zos prob doesn't even want to do it but they are prob getting overwhelmed by reports of griefing from bite trolls.
The trolls are the ones forcing this.
I agree it will be kind of tacky but it has to happen to protect the players being taken advantage of.
Blame the bite chargers, not the insightful guy explaining to you what has to happen.
Or just shut your mouth and give it a few months to level out...
How dare you say that to such an insightful guy!!!!
As harsh as it may be, you know he deserves more than that. Solving a problem with a crown store item... What a derpa derp.2 -
Zorrashi✭✭✭✭✭mrskinskull wrote: »coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »I don't understand the logic of these long timers who want to complain about viable financial options in a game they like.
Why sit around trying to shut down an option that would make new or employed players stick around and keep the lights on?
Is it so when zos closes eso's doors you can say I told you that game would fail?
that's not worth anything to anyone.
Many people love this game and are being trolled because of a simple design oversight.
Zos can fix this and benefit new players. There's no down side except you already have your bite and don't want other people working 50 hours a week to enjoy the game as much as you.
Its actually kind of sad.
Go ahead. Argue. Its cute to watch you try.
Because it's people like you that RUIN games faster than even ZOS developers can.
It's a slippery slope. Once things like this show up it's just a matter of time before a game becomes full on P2W. I see it happen to most cash shops. They start out innocently enough and then bit by bit they add actual p2w items.
There are plenty of p2w games out there, stop trying to make this one p2w as well.
The slippery slope is a faulty argument used by all the pointless ignorant. One change does not indicate causality. Its just a change. Embrace it.
Zos prob doesn't even want to do it but they are prob getting overwhelmed by reports of griefing from bite trolls.
The trolls are the ones forcing this.
I agree it will be kind of tacky but it has to happen to protect the players being taken advantage of.
Blame the bite chargers, not the insightful guy explaining to you what has to happen.
Blame the bite chargers and trolls, you say? That they will force the diseases into the cash shop, you say? It would be a slightly reasonable assumption under normal circumstances but you seem to forget one important detail: that this bite charging phenomena is not new. It happened during the PC launch too. The griefers, the hoards of support tickets, the whole shebang...
And how did ZOS fix it? Well...they didn't. Because it fixed itself. The availability of the bites increased (no player bite camper can stop that) and the ssue simply started fading away. As it will here. There is no need to put it in the cash shop.
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CriD✭✭✭Mrskinskull, like you said, embrace change. Go out forth an effort instead of whiny weird pointless posts on the forum.
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✭mrskinskull wrote: »coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »I don't understand the logic of these long timers who want to complain about viable financial options in a game they like.
Why sit around trying to shut down an option that would make new or employed players stick around and keep the lights on?
Is it so when zos closes eso's doors you can say I told you that game would fail?
that's not worth anything to anyone.
Many people love this game and are being trolled because of a simple design oversight.
Zos can fix this and benefit new players. There's no down side except you already have your bite and don't want other people working 50 hours a week to enjoy the game as much as you.
Its actually kind of sad.
Go ahead. Argue. Its cute to watch you try.
Because it's people like you that RUIN games faster than even ZOS developers can.
It's a slippery slope. Once things like this show up it's just a matter of time before a game becomes full on P2W. I see it happen to most cash shops. They start out innocently enough and then bit by bit they add actual p2w items.
There are plenty of p2w games out there, stop trying to make this one p2w as well.
The slippery slope is a faulty argument used by all the pointless ignorant. One change does not indicate causality. Its just a change. Embrace it.
Zos prob doesn't even want to do it but they are prob getting overwhelmed by reports of griefing from bite trolls.
The trolls are the ones forcing this.
I agree it will be kind of tacky but it has to happen to protect the players being taken advantage of.
Blame the bite chargers, not the insightful guy explaining to you what has to happen.
Blame the bite chargers and trolls, you say? That they will force the diseases into the cash shop, you say? It would be a slightly reasonable assumption under normal circumstances but you seem to forget one important detail: that this bite charging phenomena is not new. It happened during the PC launch too. The griefers, the hoards of support tickets, the whole shebang...
And how did ZOS fix it? Well...they didn't. Because it fixed itself. The availability of the bites increased (no player bite camper can stop that) and the ssue simply started fading away. As it will here. There is no need to put it in the cash shop.
He's not gonna get it. He's too stuck on this 'Crown Store solves everything' kick.2 -
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✭✭✭✭I found of picture of OP and his fellow insightful people.
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✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jcasini222ub17_ESO wrote: »i've always been curious, certainly now as mmo's have larger base of adult gamers, who will make a mmo with promises like ZoS from the start and charge flat monthly 25 to 50 dollars. Somewhere in there, I would jump on it in a heartbeat.
If they tried to charge 25+ noone would pay it. Fact is all MMOs have cash shops. In exchange for not making you pay a sub they sell these convenience things like horse training etc. If they sell that stuff that means I can play for free. I think thats a very good trade.
And MMO's have been getting worse and worse every year since cash shops started being implemented. Just because it's how it is doesn't mean it's how it should be.
EDIT: And if the only way for MMOs to survive is through F2P and cash shops, then they deserve to die.
Well you can either opine for the "good old days" like my grandfather did (rest his soul) or you can accept times have changed.0 -
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✭✭✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Sallington wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jcasini222ub17_ESO wrote: »i've always been curious, certainly now as mmo's have larger base of adult gamers, who will make a mmo with promises like ZoS from the start and charge flat monthly 25 to 50 dollars. Somewhere in there, I would jump on it in a heartbeat.
If they tried to charge 25+ noone would pay it. Fact is all MMOs have cash shops. In exchange for not making you pay a sub they sell these convenience things like horse training etc. If they sell that stuff that means I can play for free. I think thats a very good trade.
And MMO's have been getting worse and worse every year since cash shops started being implemented. Just because it's how it is doesn't mean it's how it should be.
EDIT: And if the only way for MMOs to survive is through F2P and cash shops, then they deserve to die.
Well you can either opine for the "good old days" like my grandfather did (rest his soul) or you can accept times have changed.
God forbid I go for the 3rd option of hoping thing turn around for the better.Daggerfall Covenant
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✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Sallington wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jcasini222ub17_ESO wrote: »i've always been curious, certainly now as mmo's have larger base of adult gamers, who will make a mmo with promises like ZoS from the start and charge flat monthly 25 to 50 dollars. Somewhere in there, I would jump on it in a heartbeat.
If they tried to charge 25+ noone would pay it. Fact is all MMOs have cash shops. In exchange for not making you pay a sub they sell these convenience things like horse training etc. If they sell that stuff that means I can play for free. I think thats a very good trade.
And MMO's have been getting worse and worse every year since cash shops started being implemented. Just because it's how it is doesn't mean it's how it should be.
EDIT: And if the only way for MMOs to survive is through F2P and cash shops, then they deserve to die.
Well you can either opine for the "good old days" like my grandfather did (rest his soul) or you can accept times have changed.
God forbid I go for the 3rd option of hoping thing turn around for the better.
Lol ya. Maybe Elvis is still alive too somewhere and going to make his comeback in las vegas soon.0 -
CriD✭✭✭This thread is lost. Don't stoop to stupid peoples level and fight them. They will beat you with experience.2
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mrskinskull✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jcasini222ub17_ESO wrote: »i've always been curious, certainly now as mmo's have larger base of adult gamers, who will make a mmo with promises like ZoS from the start and charge flat monthly 25 to 50 dollars. Somewhere in there, I would jump on it in a heartbeat.
If they tried to charge 25+ noone would pay it. Fact is all MMOs have cash shops. In exchange for not making you pay a sub they sell these convenience things like horse training etc. If they sell that stuff that means I can play for free. I think thats a very good trade.
And MMO's have been getting worse and worse every year since cash shops starting being implemented. Just because it's how it is doesn't mean it's how it should be.
Truth. It's almost as if they are implementing broken game mechanics only to "fix" them with cash shops.
Nope. Players with low morals found a way to exploit and ruin other players experiences.
Zos prob couldn't have seen this kind of pathetic bite marketing and con theft when they made the game.
They were just making a fun experience. It was the slime trying to profit off of other players that opened the door to the false offers of vamo infection.
Don't for one second try to blame zos for the sad crap the no lifers thought up.
Zos is free to use whatever means they want alleviate the situation of players being robbed by other players.
The crown store is just the simplest most elegant solution.
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mrskinskull✭✭✭✭mrskinskull wrote: »coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »I don't understand the logic of these long timers who want to complain about viable financial options in a game they like.
Why sit around trying to shut down an option that would make new or employed players stick around and keep the lights on?
Is it so when zos closes eso's doors you can say I told you that game would fail?
that's not worth anything to anyone.
Many people love this game and are being trolled because of a simple design oversight.
Zos can fix this and benefit new players. There's no down side except you already have your bite and don't want other people working 50 hours a week to enjoy the game as much as you.
Its actually kind of sad.
Go ahead. Argue. Its cute to watch you try.
Because it's people like you that RUIN games faster than even ZOS developers can.
It's a slippery slope. Once things like this show up it's just a matter of time before a game becomes full on P2W. I see it happen to most cash shops. They start out innocently enough and then bit by bit they add actual p2w items.
There are plenty of p2w games out there, stop trying to make this one p2w as well.
The slippery slope is a faulty argument used by all the pointless ignorant. One change does not indicate causality. Its just a change. Embrace it.
Zos prob doesn't even want to do it but they are prob getting overwhelmed by reports of griefing from bite trolls.
The trolls are the ones forcing this.
I agree it will be kind of tacky but it has to happen to protect the players being taken advantage of.
Blame the bite chargers, not the insightful guy explaining to you what has to happen.
Blame the bite chargers and trolls, you say? That they will force the diseases into the cash shop, you say? It would be a slightly reasonable assumption under normal circumstances but you seem to forget one important detail: that this bite charging phenomena is not new. It happened during the PC launch too. The griefers, the hoards of support tickets, the whole shebang...
And how did ZOS fix it? Well...they didn't. Because it fixed itself. The availability of the bites increased (no player bite camper can stop that) and the ssue simply started fading away. As it will here. There is no need to put it in the cash shop.
Correct me if I'm wrong but all of that happened under a sub fee huh?
There's no sub fee now and the answer is right there.
Infections in the crown store.
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✭mrskinskull wrote: »Sallington wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jcasini222ub17_ESO wrote: »i've always been curious, certainly now as mmo's have larger base of adult gamers, who will make a mmo with promises like ZoS from the start and charge flat monthly 25 to 50 dollars. Somewhere in there, I would jump on it in a heartbeat.
If they tried to charge 25+ noone would pay it. Fact is all MMOs have cash shops. In exchange for not making you pay a sub they sell these convenience things like horse training etc. If they sell that stuff that means I can play for free. I think thats a very good trade.
And MMO's have been getting worse and worse every year since cash shops starting being implemented. Just because it's how it is doesn't mean it's how it should be.
Truth. It's almost as if they are implementing broken game mechanics only to "fix" them with cash shops.
Nope. Players with low morals found a way to exploit and ruin other players experiences.
Zos prob couldn't have seen this kind of pathetic bite marketing and con theft when they made the game.
They were just making a fun experience. It was the slime trying to profit off of other players that opened the door to the false offers of vamo infection.
Don't for one second try to blame zos for the sad crap the no lifers thought up.
Zos is free to use whatever means they want alleviate the situation of players being robbed by other players.
The crown store is just the simplest most elegant solution.
You're such an idiot, lol.
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✭✭✭✭✭mrskinskull wrote: »Sallington wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jcasini222ub17_ESO wrote: »i've always been curious, certainly now as mmo's have larger base of adult gamers, who will make a mmo with promises like ZoS from the start and charge flat monthly 25 to 50 dollars. Somewhere in there, I would jump on it in a heartbeat.
If they tried to charge 25+ noone would pay it. Fact is all MMOs have cash shops. In exchange for not making you pay a sub they sell these convenience things like horse training etc. If they sell that stuff that means I can play for free. I think thats a very good trade.
And MMO's have been getting worse and worse every year since cash shops starting being implemented. Just because it's how it is doesn't mean it's how it should be.
Truth. It's almost as if they are implementing broken game mechanics only to "fix" them with cash shops.
Nope. Players with low morals found a way to exploit and ruin other players experiences.
Zos prob couldn't have seen this kind of pathetic bite marketing and con theft when they made the game.
They were just making a fun experience. It was the slime trying to profit off of other players that opened the door to the false offers of vamo infection.
Don't for one second try to blame zos for the sad crap the no lifers thought up.
Zos is free to use whatever means they want alleviate the situation of players being robbed by other players.
The crown store is just the simplest most elegant solution.
Nope. The simplest and most elegant solution, both for ZOS and people who want a bite, is waiting it out.The Moot Councillor3 -
mrskinskull✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Wait til OP gets to VR1, and wants to just pay ZOS to be VR14 because leveling is too much of a hassle.
If no other players can con me out of leveling up or somehow spawn kill the monster I need to beat to progress then you won't hear a peep.
Again its a game to play. Its not work. Its not an accomplishment like building habitat for humanity.
Vr14 is sadder and higher in time wasted playing a great game. Nothing else. Just have. Fun and stop worrying if people pay to get something.
All that matters to you is that you didn't right?
So again, its a win for everyone.
Oh vr14 , I will be with you my darling.0
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