Vampirism and lycnthropy as crown store items?

mrskinskull

Imhotep71 wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

put an I win button in the console crown store problem solved

I left on on your mom. Just peel it off and use that one.;)

With that statement right there you just lost any sort of legitimacy that your idea might have had. Now you're just some console kiddie that makes us all look bad

Sallington wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

put an I win button in the console crown store problem solved

I left on on your mom. Just peel it off and use that one.;)

Congrats ZOS. These are the types of players you bring to the community with B2P and a console launch.

Understand that a large portion of the console community is not like this guy. Even the PC community has jackwagons like this.

Jackwagon. Insulting the poster. Its the same thing. Calm down. I am fishing to see if zos community manager will weigh in.
I never had to put an easy button on that guys mom.

Lenikus

It is possible.
But you would buy the disease, not the actual condition.
You'd still need to go to the shrine, and use the portal there, and do the quest.

Also, it has to be hell-a expensive in crowns. like 4k crowns, at least.
It fits the convenience side of the crown store, and it will not affect anything, since most players bite for free anyway.

Sallington

mrskinskull wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

put an I win button in the console crown store problem solved

I left on on your mom. Just peel it off and use that one.;)

Congrats ZOS. These are the types of players you bring to the community with B2P and a console launch.

Looks like I hit your easy button too, huh?

You're still doing a great job of proving my point.

Imhotep71

mrskinskull wrote: »

Imhotep71 wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

put an I win button in the console crown store problem solved

I left on on your mom. Just peel it off and use that one.;)

With that statement right there you just lost any sort of legitimacy that your idea might have had. Now you're just some console kiddie that makes us all look bad

Sallington wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

put an I win button in the console crown store problem solved

I left on on your mom. Just peel it off and use that one.;)

Congrats ZOS. These are the types of players you bring to the community with B2P and a console launch.

Understand that a large portion of the console community is not like this guy. Even the PC community has jackwagons like this.

Jackwagon. Insulting the poster. Its the same thing. Calm down. I am fishing to see if zos community manager will weigh in.
I never had to put an easy button on that guys mom.

They arent going to weigh in, they will just moderate the thread and you will likely catch a ban. Is this your first rodeo on MMO forums? Not trying to be insulting, its an honest question.

UrQuan

mrskinskull wrote: »

Imhotep71 wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

put an I win button in the console crown store problem solved

I left on on your mom. Just peel it off and use that one.;)

With that statement right there you just lost any sort of legitimacy that your idea might have had. Now you're just some console kiddie that makes us all look bad

Sallington wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

put an I win button in the console crown store problem solved

I left on on your mom. Just peel it off and use that one.;)

Congrats ZOS. These are the types of players you bring to the community with B2P and a console launch.

Understand that a large portion of the console community is not like this guy. Even the PC community has jackwagons like this.

Jackwagon. Insulting the poster. Its the same thing. Calm down. I am fishing to see if zos community manager will weigh in.
I never had to put an easy button on that guys mom.

You've proven that your opinion should be ignored on any matter.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Expect to see this in the store within 6 months. Guaranteed.

mrskinskull

Lenikus wrote: »

It is possible.
But you would buy the disease, not the actual condition.
You'd still need to go to the shrine, and use the portal there, and do the quest.

Also, it has to be hell-a expensive in crowns. like 4k crowns, at least.
It fits the convenience side of the crown store, and it will not affect anything, since most players bite for free anyway.

That's all I'm advocating for. Nothing else.
Just a convenience item.
Some posters are acting like it would be the Apocalypse.
Infections in the crown store would be a win win.

mrskinskull

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Expect to see this in the store within 6 months. Guaranteed.

Right. And then when players are happier and the sky does not fall, the game will move on just fine.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

mrskinskull wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Expect to see this in the store within 6 months. Guaranteed.

Right. And then when players are happier and the sky does not fall, the game will move on just fine.

Remember when XP pots meant the sky was falling? hehe

mrskinskull

UrQuan wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

Imhotep71 wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

put an I win button in the console crown store problem solved

I left on on your mom. Just peel it off and use that one.;)

With that statement right there you just lost any sort of legitimacy that your idea might have had. Now you're just some console kiddie that makes us all look bad

Sallington wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

put an I win button in the console crown store problem solved

I left on on your mom. Just peel it off and use that one.;)

Congrats ZOS. These are the types of players you bring to the community with B2P and a console launch.

Understand that a large portion of the console community is not like this guy. Even the PC community has jackwagons like this.

Jackwagon. Insulting the poster. Its the same thing. Calm down. I am fishing to see if zos community manager will weigh in.
I never had to put an easy button on that guys mom.

You've proven that your opinion should be ignored on any matter.

Reason isn't working with some hold outs. So I'm shifting rhetorical tactics. Humor and light cajoling. Calm down.

BTW if you had a reasonable argument as to why infections in the crown store aren't a win win, you would have stated it.
Instead acting offended and fragile over a playful jab indicates two things ,

I'm a total jerk,
And
I'm totally right.

Cheers.

Sallington

mrskinskull wrote: »

Lenikus wrote: »

It is possible.
But you would buy the disease, not the actual condition.
You'd still need to go to the shrine, and use the portal there, and do the quest.

Also, it has to be hell-a expensive in crowns. like 4k crowns, at least.
It fits the convenience side of the crown store, and it will not affect anything, since most players bite for free anyway.

That's all I'm advocating for. Nothing else.
Just a convenience item.
Some posters are acting like it would be the Apocalypse.
Infections in the crown store would be a win win.

You need to look past your own desire to bypass game mechanics. It's a slippery slope.

I mean, why would ZOS even take the time to create mechanics or content for people to play through if people will just pay them $10 to bypass it? Why not just sell it in the cash store and move on?

It's my opinion that people like you are legitimately the cause of the crappy state of the gaming industry, with all of it's paid DLC, exclusive pre-order bonuses, season passes, and all of that BS.

UrQuan

mrskinskull wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

Imhotep71 wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

put an I win button in the console crown store problem solved

I left on on your mom. Just peel it off and use that one.;)

With that statement right there you just lost any sort of legitimacy that your idea might have had. Now you're just some console kiddie that makes us all look bad

Sallington wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

put an I win button in the console crown store problem solved

I left on on your mom. Just peel it off and use that one.;)

Congrats ZOS. These are the types of players you bring to the community with B2P and a console launch.

Understand that a large portion of the console community is not like this guy. Even the PC community has jackwagons like this.

Jackwagon. Insulting the poster. Its the same thing. Calm down. I am fishing to see if zos community manager will weigh in.
I never had to put an easy button on that guys mom.

You've proven that your opinion should be ignored on any matter.

Reason isn't working with some hold outs. So I'm shifting rhetorical tactics. Humor and light cajoling. Calm down.

BTW if you had a reasonable argument as to why infections in the crown store aren't a win win, you would have stated it.
Instead acting offended and fragile over a playful jab indicates two things ,

I'm a total jerk,
And
I'm totally right.

Cheers.

If you look back on my posts you'll see that I haven't taken a position either for adding bites to the Crown Store or against it. What I take issue with is you breaking the forum rules. your actions in this thread tell me that your opinion should always be ignored.

jcasini222ub17_ESO

Creeps me out to think about skill lines being sold in crown shops (obviously not the maxed out verision but the access). That being said id expect a similar price to imperial if ever added. Certainly more than the 1500 crowns that are given if you sub.

Bookwyrm

mrskinskull wrote: »

I don't understand the logic of these long timers who want to complain about viable financial options in a game they like.

Actually, this is not a viable financial option, unless they decide to remove the ability to bite other players, which I think would really be terrible since it implies that one can GET infected, but the infection is for some reason not virulent once it infects a player (it can't be passed on).

Even if we get a constant influx of new players, the first wave of people who purchase the crown store "infections" would be able to infect the next wave, who could infect the next wave, etc. And because the game would be saturated with vampires and werewolves, the only way to give bites would be for free (which happens even without crown-store-purchased infections)...which directly conflicts with purchasing the infection from the crown store. The only way to ensure that people would buy from the crown store would be to remove the passive that allows passing the infection to another player, meaning that you could:

A) Become infected by an NPC (which so many people find JUST IMPOSSIBLE OMG)
Purchase the infection from the crown store (Woohoo! Easy!)

No. Just no. You'd have to remove a function of werewolves and vampires just to get people to buy? We don't want them to start removing things from the game so that they can add them back in the crown store. And don't start the "slippery slope" argument with me--this would set an actual precedent for them to do just that.

mrskinskull

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Expect to see this in the store within 6 months. Guaranteed.

Right. And then when players are happier and the sky does not fall, the game will move on just fine.

Remember when XP pots meant the sky was falling? hehe

I know right.

I think these guys arguing against infections in the crown store are smart enough to know I am right.
I think their just arguing to argue.
Its fine with me as long as zos gets a chance to consider the pros and cons of infections in the crown store being a win win.

I floated the idea half expected to be talked out of infections in the crown store being a win win.

As any casual forum readers have seen, there are no real arguments against it.

It would stop the trolls.
It would serve a portion of the players demands.
It would help to replace revenue lost by the b2 p shift.

Oh I guess infections in the crown store are a win-win-win.

Sallington

mrskinskull wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Expect to see this in the store within 6 months. Guaranteed.

Right. And then when players are happier and the sky does not fall, the game will move on just fine.

Remember when XP pots meant the sky was falling? hehe

I know right.

I think these guys arguing against infections in the crown store are smart enough to know I am right.
I think their just arguing to argue.
Its fine with me as long as zos gets a chance to consider the pros and cons of infections in the crown store being a win win.

I floated the idea half expected to be talked out of infections in the crown store being a win win.

As any casual forum readers have seen, there are no real arguments against it.

It would stop the trolls.
It would serve a portion of the players demands.
It would help to replace revenue lost by the b2 p shift.

Oh I guess infections in the crown store are a win-win-win.

Wouldn't it be easier to ask ZOS to just increase the chance to get infected from an NPC vamp? Why is your first thought to have them let you pay $10 for it?

That's the problem with crown stores. People willingly give them ideas on what to charge money for when they could easily just tweak a game mechanic.

mrskinskull

Bookwyrm wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

I don't understand the logic of these long timers who want to complain about viable financial options in a game they like.

Actually, this is not a viable financial option, unless they decide to remove the ability to bite other players, which I think would really be terrible since it implies that one can GET infected, but the infection is for some reason not virulent once it infects a player (it can't be passed on).

Even if we get a constant influx of new players, the first wave of people who purchase the crown store "infections" would be able to infect the next wave, who could infect the next wave, etc. And because the game would be saturated with vampires and werewolves, the only way to give bites would be for free (which happens even without crown-store-purchased infections)...which directly conflicts with purchasing the infection from the crown store. The only way to ensure that people would buy from the crown store would be to remove the passive that allows passing the infection to another player, meaning that you could:

A) Become infected by an NPC (which so many people find JUST IMPOSSIBLE OMG)
Purchase the infection from the crown store (Woohoo! Easy!)

No. Just no. You'd have to remove a function of werewolves and vampires just to get people to buy? We don't want them to start removing things from the game so that they can add them back in the crown store. And don't start the "slippery slope" argument with me--this would set an actual precedent for them to do just that.

No. You are wrong.

Player infections could stay and not everyone who buys a horse offers other players the right to store stuff in their horse slots.

Some people would just want to jump to the experience of infection.
Some players might want a viable option to being trolled for a bite.

Once zos implements the crown store bites, players might offer the bites among themselves but will prob still try to continue feeling special and horde it. Thus human nature ensures value.

Nice try tho.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

The entire point of the game is to charge money. Without money the game will close. For every person who would actually quit over this (I doubt anyone would) the sale would make up for them. Also they woudlnt lose all the people who get mad because they got robbed of all their gold by a bite scammer.

mrskinskull

jcasini222ub17_ESO wrote: »

Creeps me out to think about skill lines being sold in crown shops (obviously not the maxed out verision but the access). That being said id expect a similar price to imperial if ever added. Certainly more than the 1500 crowns that are given if you sub.

I bought the imperial race and really don't see the diff.
Both change game play.
Both change stats.
Both drain health.
Both offer a unique style that can be shared with other players.
Both the imperial motif and vampirism are rare and valuable in game.
Extremely similar.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

I forgot about imperial race. There is not only skill lines but crafting benefits as well. Thanks for reminding me

Bookwyrm

No, I'm not wrong, because while not "everyone" would be biting other people, plenty of people would.

It would start out with people who purchased in the crown store trying to sell their bites to "make some gold" for the money they spent.

When more and more people are infected, more and more people try to sell, driving prices down.

Prices eventually run down to "free."

This is exactly what happens naturally without crown store purchases.

Why would this change if they add it to the crown store? Why do you think that people would choose to pay cash when they could get a bite from 10 of their guildies for free? It wouldn't change, unless players couldn't bite other players.

jcasini222ub17_ESO

Yea I mean I wasn't a fan of the one race being pay gated, seemed creepy then to me. seems creepy now to me, but if your paying to keep the lights on knock your socks off. We sub-only peeps clearly lost every battle and the war. /wave white flag

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mrskinskull

UrQuan wrote: »

@mrskinskull you should probably read the forum rules. Specifically the part about not throwing around insults and attacking other posters. As it is, you're most likely going to get banned and get this thread locked.

You have no valid argument.
This is a sad attempt to stifle the demands of many players.

Infection in the crown store is a win-win.

Everyone else in the thread could tell it was a lol jab.

You are the only one grasping at the hope that zos has to stop players from wandering by this thread and seeing our arguments side by side and

They will find you wanting.

symonator

Nah i don't think it should be a paid item as you get some in game benefits and skill lines.
So no.

Otherwise you might aswell pay for caltrops and other effective pvp passives and skills...because why not?

So no to pay for this.

mrskinskull

UrQuan wrote: »

@mrskinskull you should probably read the forum rules. Specifically the part about not throwing around insults and attacking other posters. As it is, you're most likely going to get banned and get this thread locked.

You can't protect the bite trolls forever.

You defending the actions of con men lying and stealing from new players is deplorable.

This petty attempt to keep your cottage industry of lies and bite trolling is obvious to us all.

Nice try and your days are numbered.

mrskinskull

UrQuan wrote: »

@mrskinskull you should probably read the forum rules. Specifically the part about not throwing around insults and attacking other posters. As it is, you're most likely going to get banned and get this thread locked.

You can't protect the bite trolls forever.

You defending the actions of con men lying and stealing from new players is deplorable.

This petty attempt to keep your cottage industry of lies and bite trolling is obvious to us all.

Nice try and your days are numbered.

mrskinskull

jcasini222ub17_ESO wrote: »

Yea I mean I wasn't a fan of the one race being pay gated, seemed creepy then to me. seems creepy now to me, but if your paying to keep the lights on knock your socks off. We sub-only peeps clearly lost every battle and the war. /wave white flag

Sub only could never succeed against rising production costs.

Sorry but its just true.

Infections in the crown store is the same as the imperial race.

I don't love the idea but it needs to happen.

UrQuan

mrskinskull wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

@mrskinskull you should probably read the forum rules. Specifically the part about not throwing around insults and attacking other posters. As it is, you're most likely going to get banned and get this thread locked.

You can't protect the bite trolls forever.

You defending the actions of con men lying and stealing from new players is deplorable.

This petty attempt to keep your cottage industry of lies and bite trolling is obvious to us all.

Nice try and your days are numbered.

Again, go back and read my posts. I'm not arguing for it or against it. I haven't taken a position. In other threads I have strongly argued against anyone ever charging for a bite, and advised people to report all of the bite scammers. I also give people free bites all the time on PC (I don't play on console). What I take issue with is you and your attitude. The way you've been acting in this thread has no place on these forums.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Just seems to me this would be a great way to make money AND stop all the griefing taking place around the spawns. Reduce the customer service calls. Not only saving them money on support but making money. Thats why I would bet within a few months this will be on the store.