Vampirism and lycnthropy as crown store items?

mrskinskull

Heromofo wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

reapthetempestrwb17_ESO wrote: »

While you're at it why not make killing Molag Bal a crown store purchase, or becoming emperor

That's a weak comparison.
No other players can prevent you from fighting molag ball as the can with the vamps.
Worse yet other players can't overcharge you for the crime of getting to the spawn point even minutes behind them. You were late to the game or didn't transfer your PC vamp so now you must pay 18 k .
Your argument is as tacky as a bite charger.

Crown store the item and move on.

All i see is boooohooohooo i missed out on my bite *crying*


Lol just admit it and i will turn you

I don't want a bite and this is exactly the kind of crap I'm talking about.
Why should anyone beg a no life such as yourself for anything?

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Work for it? How is paying some guy a few gold to get infected "working for it"?

mrskinskull

SkinnyDG wrote: »

Mrs kin is just excited for a transformation. I was too. It's completely understandable.

Again. I don't want the item. I am advocating for players being taken advantage of by a sad crowd.
I think the hostility is mostly from the charger crowd though.

Keep it up.

mrskinskull

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Work for it? How is paying some guy a few gold to get infected "working for it"?

Thank you.
The people getting defensive over a trivial crown store convenience item are the ones who will lose self importance or shady I overcharged income.
Every one else would either pay, earn it or not even care.

I don't PvP so I don't really care.

Heromofo

FINE

throw the bites into crown store but why stop there.

Why not lightsabers,Emperor status and the best gear is the game because why not it will all sell.



Because there is a million and one things they can add to profit off in the crown store.
Things like this should stay apart of the game and not the store.



Do you see now lol

Nyghthowler

Sounds good. Lets encourage ZoS to start selling skill lines in the Crown store. Then items with stats. Why play to get it when you can just drop another $20.00 and insta win?
Every one want new content? Too bad; but $50.00 will buy you a V14 character. Never be bored again with the same old content, just insta level with cash.

/sarcasm

mrskinskull

tengri wrote: »

Get over it.
Same thing happened in the first few weeks after PC launch; it will settle down soon enough.
We survived it, you will, too.

Yeah but back then zos had a stable of rubes paying monthly fees.
This would be an acceptable way to keep the lights on and not really do anything shady players aren't already doing.

Epona222

Just wait until it calms down on console, it was like that on PC at first, now there are plenty of people willing to give bites for free or for a small tip. I regularly give both vampire and ww bites for free. Just hang in there until the crazy wears off.

leepalmer95

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Work for it? How is paying some guy a few gold to get infected "working for it"?

Simple.

1. Use the internet to figure out the spawn times and places. This way you don't sit the same spot for a week when they only spawn on a certain moon.

2. Go to a spawn place where there's not 40 people. There is plenty, they don't spawn 1 per spot there's about 5-6 in the general area, there are 4 spawn spots. Which is the same for vamps/ww they just spawn on different moons.

3. Block. You get infected fast.


Done with my 15 minutes of research that me and my friends did when they decided to be vamps. Waiting until new moon, went to spot, 5 mins later, magical vamps appeared, 5 seconds later they were both infected. Sure beats waiting at shrines, spamming inbox's, posting countless threads... they even bite people for free as well after it.

mrskinskull

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Don't compare the imperial edition to a in game event.

The imperial editions costs money because you pay for an entire different class that can be made in any faction.

Generally don't see the point of Zos bothering the add easily obtainable stuff to the crown store when in 2 weeks they'll become useful.

This isn't a p2w game, if you really want to be a vamp or ww you'll work for it.

How is a vamp bite diff from what you just said.
A unique set of abilities for any faction.
Zos could help the player community but not too much.
Such as the healing items or food. Helpful but you could just work for it.
Same thing.

Re read your own post and see you are making my point.

SkinnyDG

You guys are getting tunnel visioned. Without receiving a bite from a player it IS virtually impossible to get infected. However,adding it to the store is not the solution. While it may be frustrating to get it's still unique and that's a good thing. Adding it to the store doesn't solve the problem for the guy that can't afford to buy. Does it?

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

leepalmer95 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Work for it? How is paying some guy a few gold to get infected "working for it"?

Simple.

1. Use the internet to figure out the spawn times and places. This way you don't sit the same spot for a week when they only spawn on a certain moon.

2. Go to a spawn place where there's not 40 people. There is plenty, they don't spawn 1 per spot there's about 5-6 in the general area, there are 4 spawn spots. Which is the same for vamps/ww they just spawn on different moons.

3. Block. You get infected fast.


Done with my 15 minutes of research that me and my friends did when they decided to be vamps. Waiting until new moon, went to spot, 5 mins later, magical vamps appeared, 5 seconds later they were both infected. Sure beats waiting at shrines, spamming inbox's, posting countless threads... they even bite people for free as well after it.

Thats good for you. Maybe others would simply like to buy the infection off the store. Convenience remember?

Merkabeh

First, I don't care if it gets added to crown store; I don't see that as a real issue to be honest, so if it was added, cool.

Personally, my future Vampire is still level 4 and not being played yet; and my WW is only level 22 and doesn't need it/have spare points for it yet anyway; by the time I actually need to get bitten, I'm sure it will be easy to get bitten.

But this brings me to my point:

Why would ZOS spend time (any time at all) to resolve something that will resolve itself? Time and patience will make the Vamp/WW issue a non issue. There is no reason to implement a Crown Store or game system change for this; when those changes would be irrelevant in a couple months.

Who is going to buy Vamp/WW bites with real money (let us not forget what crown store items are) when they are that easy to obtain? Pointless to build a system that will be completely obsolete that quickly.

That being said, if it was added, cool.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Nyghthowler wrote: »

Sounds good. Lets encourage ZoS to start selling skill lines in the Crown store. Then items with stats. Why play to get it when you can just drop another $20.00 and insta win?
Every one want new content? Too bad; but $50.00 will buy you a V14 character. Never be bored again with the same old content, just insta level with cash.

/sarcasm

Ya I mean getting an infection is the same thing as selling entire skill lines and a v14 character. Also what exactly do you win being infected again?

leepalmer95

mrskinskull wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Don't compare the imperial edition to a in game event.

The imperial editions costs money because you pay for an entire different class that can be made in any faction.

Generally don't see the point of Zos bothering the add easily obtainable stuff to the crown store when in 2 weeks they'll become useful.

This isn't a p2w game, if you really want to be a vamp or ww you'll work for it.

How is a vamp bite diff from what you just said.
A unique set of abilities for any faction.
Zos could help the player community but not too much.
Such as the healing items or food. Helpful but you could just work for it.
Same thing.

Re read your own post and see you are making my point.

Unique being the key word there.

Without buying the imperial edition, players can;t be imperials, where as people can become vamps/ww in the game naturally.

Imperial skills are unique to the imperial class
Vamp/ww are widespread, and can be changed for free between them at any time, not exactly unique.

Zos is helping the player community by not doing anything, it's happened on the pc, it sorted itself out, it will do again.

I feel like people just need to be patient, and understand that being a vampire at lvl 16 isn't necessary. Not to mention if they actually did research they would realise it's not worth the effort at that level at all.

mrskinskull

Heromofo wrote: »

FINE

throw the bites into crown store but why stop there.

Why not lightsabers,Emperor status and the best gear is the game because why not it will all sell.



Because there is a million and one things they can add to profit off in the crown store.
Things like this should stay apart of the game and not the store.



Do you see now lol

You are using a false slippery slope argument.
We can all see how defensive you are getting over this.
Take a breath and relax.
Vamp bites in the crown store won't affect you because you are already one right?
So if you don't need it and you give it away, this is no threat to you unless you are charging for bites.
Vamp bites in the crown store would just be an option for people who don't have the time or patience to negotiate with a no life over a bite.

The bite chargers could still charge, just no where near as much.

Cheers.

Heromofo

mrskinskull wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

reapthetempestrwb17_ESO wrote: »

While you're at it why not make killing Molag Bal a crown store purchase, or becoming emperor

That's a weak comparison.
No other players can prevent you from fighting molag ball as the can with the vamps.
Worse yet other players can't overcharge you for the crime of getting to the spawn point even minutes behind them. You were late to the game or didn't transfer your PC vamp so now you must pay 18 k .
Your argument is as tacky as a bite charger.

Crown store the item and move on.

All i see is boooohooohooo i missed out on my bite *crying*


Lol just admit it and i will turn you

I don't want a bite and this is exactly the kind of crap I'm talking about.
Why should anyone beg a no life such as yourself for anything?

So i am a no lifer for having it?

Someone is sooo jelly

Cmon buddy admit it and i will bite ya

Personally i think the lines are not worth anything they have been nerfed to heck.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

mrskinskull wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

FINE

throw the bites into crown store but why stop there.

Why not lightsabers,Emperor status and the best gear is the game because why not it will all sell.



Because there is a million and one things they can add to profit off in the crown store.
Things like this should stay apart of the game and not the store.



Do you see now lol

You are using a false slippery slope argument.
We can all see how defensive you are getting over this.
Take a breath and relax.
Vamp bites in the crown store won't affect you because you are already one right?
So if you don't need it and you give it away, this is no threat to you unless you are charging for bites.
Vamp bites in the crown store would just be an option for people who don't have the time or patience to negotiate with a no life over a bite.

The bite chargers could still charge, just no where near as much.

Cheers.

I agree I think he is upset because he wants to gouge the players and force them to go to him to get bit.

Nyghthowler

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Nyghthowler wrote: »

Sounds good. Lets encourage ZoS to start selling skill lines in the Crown store. Then items with stats. Why play to get it when you can just drop another $20.00 and insta win?
Every one want new content? Too bad; but $50.00 will buy you a V14 character. Never be bored again with the same old content, just insta level with cash.

/sarcasm

Ya I mean getting an infection is the same thing as selling entire skill lines and a v14 character. Also what exactly do you win being infected again?

If you don't care about the skill line that goes with the bite, then why are y'all so butthurt about getting it?? It's not the bite, but the actives and passives they unlock. If ZoS starts selling Vamp and WW SKILL LINES, that opens the door for adding other items that affect game play in the Cash Shop Crown Store.

Heromofo

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

FINE

throw the bites into crown store but why stop there.

Why not lightsabers,Emperor status and the best gear is the game because why not it will all sell.



Because there is a million and one things they can add to profit off in the crown store.
Things like this should stay apart of the game and not the store.



Do you see now lol

You are using a false slippery slope argument.
We can all see how defensive you are getting over this.
Take a breath and relax.
Vamp bites in the crown store won't affect you because you are already one right?
So if you don't need it and you give it away, this is no threat to you unless you are charging for bites.
Vamp bites in the crown store would just be an option for people who don't have the time or patience to negotiate with a no life over a bite.

The bite chargers could still charge, just no where near as much.

Cheers.

I agree I think he is upset because he wants to gouge the players and force them to go to him to get bit.

Mmm well no bite for you:D loving this thread

I may be a troll on the forums but in game i enjoy turning people that could make me laugh.

Sooo go ahead

mrskinskull

Vamp infections in the crown store would also benefit the already infected.
There are countless posts from vamps and we complaining about being bombarded with friend requests and group invites because of the infection.

Again zos could be a hero to the infected and offer infections in the crown store.

This would help the infected have a more peaceful howl in the forest or blood moon feeding.

Zos, its a win, win.

mrskinskull

Nyghthowler wrote: »

Sounds good. Lets encourage ZoS to start selling skill lines in the Crown store. Then items with stats. Why play to get it when you can just drop another $20.00 and insta win?
Every one want new content? Too bad; but $50.00 will buy you a V14 character. Never be bored again with the same old content, just insta level with cash.

/sarcasm

There's no need for anger my friend.
I am just saying zos would be a hero to the community by offering the infection.
It could still be obtainable in game and would not change the game.

UrQuan

SkinnyDG wrote: »

Mrs kin is just excited for a transformation.

Wait wait wait... Let me derail the thread here for a minute, because suddenly I need something cleared up.

Is it mrs. kinskull or mr. skinskull?

I assumed it's the latter, but @SkinnyDG seems to have assumed it's the former.

@mrskinskull can you please clear this up?

leepalmer95

mrskinskull wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

FINE

throw the bites into crown store but why stop there.

Why not lightsabers,Emperor status and the best gear is the game because why not it will all sell.



Because there is a million and one things they can add to profit off in the crown store.
Things like this should stay apart of the game and not the store.



Do you see now lol

You are using a false slippery slope argument.
We can all see how defensive you are getting over this.
Take a breath and relax.
Vamp bites in the crown store won't affect you because you are already one right?
So if you don't need it and you give it away, this is no threat to you unless you are charging for bites.
Vamp bites in the crown store would just be an option for people who don't have the time or patience to negotiate with a no life over a bite.

The bite chargers could still charge, just no where near as much.

Cheers.

Why do you keep referring people who actually played the game as no lifes? This game isn't a p2w, adding a shortcut into the store is the start of making it a p2w. Bites being in surplus doesn't concern me, it's being able to skip the time and effort it takes to get rewards by simply buying it.

Mmorpg's are all about time and patience, you work for reward, thats literally the end game content.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Nyghthowler wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Nyghthowler wrote: »

Sounds good. Lets encourage ZoS to start selling skill lines in the Crown store. Then items with stats. Why play to get it when you can just drop another $20.00 and insta win?
Every one want new content? Too bad; but $50.00 will buy you a V14 character. Never be bored again with the same old content, just insta level with cash.

/sarcasm

Ya I mean getting an infection is the same thing as selling entire skill lines and a v14 character. Also what exactly do you win being infected again?

If you don't care about the skill line that goes with the bite, then why are y'all so butthurt about getting it?? It's not the bite, but the actives and passives they unlock. If ZoS starts selling Vamp and WW SKILL LINES, that opens the door for adding other items that affect game play in the Cash Shop Crown Store.

You still would have to level the skill. They arent selling entire skill lines. All items in the store will affect gameplay. Saying they will sell a maxxed out character is simply hyperbole.

Epona222

Console players - I am on PC with vampire and WW characters, and I CANNOT GIVE BITES AWAY, not enough people want them - don't be daft and ask Zeni to make you pay real money for them just because there is a bit of a frenzy right now. Have some patience.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Heromofo wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

FINE

throw the bites into crown store but why stop there.

Why not lightsabers,Emperor status and the best gear is the game because why not it will all sell.



Because there is a million and one things they can add to profit off in the crown store.
Things like this should stay apart of the game and not the store.



Do you see now lol

You are using a false slippery slope argument.
We can all see how defensive you are getting over this.
Take a breath and relax.
Vamp bites in the crown store won't affect you because you are already one right?
So if you don't need it and you give it away, this is no threat to you unless you are charging for bites.
Vamp bites in the crown store would just be an option for people who don't have the time or patience to negotiate with a no life over a bite.

The bite chargers could still charge, just no where near as much.

Cheers.

I agree I think he is upset because he wants to gouge the players and force them to go to him to get bit.

Mmm well no bite for you:D loving this thread

I may be a troll on the forums but in game i enjoy turning people that could make me laugh.

Sooo go ahead

As you can tell Ive been playing this game since before it came out. All my characters that I want infected are.

mrskinskull

Zos offering infections in the crown store would be no different from the horses.
Exactly the same except trolls never got the chance to overcharge new players for not getting to the horse stall before they killed them all.
Horses work fine in the game.
The option to be infected from the crown store would be the same thing.

Some people would 'work for it' some people would just buy the horse and move on.

Oh but vamp is a skill line.
So faster movement, more storage and a second stamina bar don't qualify?

Lol.

Heromofo

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

FINE

throw the bites into crown store but why stop there.

Why not lightsabers,Emperor status and the best gear is the game because why not it will all sell.



Because there is a million and one things they can add to profit off in the crown store.
Things like this should stay apart of the game and not the store.



Do you see now lol

You are using a false slippery slope argument.
We can all see how defensive you are getting over this.
Take a breath and relax.
Vamp bites in the crown store won't affect you because you are already one right?
So if you don't need it and you give it away, this is no threat to you unless you are charging for bites.
Vamp bites in the crown store would just be an option for people who don't have the time or patience to negotiate with a no life over a bite.

The bite chargers could still charge, just no where near as much.

Cheers.

I agree I think he is upset because he wants to gouge the players and force them to go to him to get bit.

Mmm well no bite for you:D loving this thread

I may be a troll on the forums but in game i enjoy turning people that could make me laugh.

Sooo go ahead

As you can tell Ive been playing this game since before it came out. All my characters that I want infected are.

Again just a joke

Nyghthowler

mrskinskull wrote: »

Nyghthowler wrote: »

Sounds good. Lets encourage ZoS to start selling skill lines in the Crown store. Then items with stats. Why play to get it when you can just drop another $20.00 and insta win?
Every one want new content? Too bad; but $50.00 will buy you a V14 character. Never be bored again with the same old content, just insta level with cash.

/sarcasm

There's no need for anger my friend.
I am just saying zos would be a hero to the community by offering the infection.
It could still be obtainable in game and would not change the game.

I'm not angry. Just stop and consider what's being asked for. I have no problem with cosmetic and convenience items in the C.S. . When they add the first item that bypasses regular game play to expedite or bypass an in game system, then they have crossed the line into P2W, and the door is open for more and more items of the same nature.