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Vampirism and lycnthropy as crown store items?
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mrskinskull✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Work for it? How is paying some guy a few gold to get infected "working for it"?
Simple.
1. Use the internet to figure out the spawn times and places. This way you don't sit the same spot for a week when they only spawn on a certain moon.
2. Go to a spawn place where there's not 40 people. There is plenty, they don't spawn 1 per spot there's about 5-6 in the general area, there are 4 spawn spots. Which is the same for vamps/ww they just spawn on different moons.
3. Block. You get infected fast.
Done with my 15 minutes of research that me and my friends did when they decided to be vamps. Waiting until new moon, went to spot, 5 mins later, magical vamps appeared, 5 seconds later they were both infected. Sure beats waiting at shrines, spamming inbox's, posting countless threads... they even bite people for free as well after it.
Find a vamp spawn without 80 people at it, lol.
That's rarer than the vamps.
Plus there are players killing the vamps.
You are funny.
A bit slow.
But funny.0 -
Heromofo✭✭✭✭✭Nyghthowler wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »Nyghthowler wrote: »Sounds good. Lets encourage ZoS to start selling skill lines in the Crown store. Then items with stats. Why play to get it when you can just drop another $20.00 and insta win?
Every one want new content? Too bad; but $50.00 will buy you a V14 character. Never be bored again with the same old content, just insta level with cash.
/sarcasm
There's no need for anger my friend.
I am just saying zos would be a hero to the community by offering the infection.
It could still be obtainable in game and would not change the game.
I'm not angry. Just stop and consider what's being asked for. I have no problem with cosmetic and convenience items in the C.S. . When they add the first item that bypasses regular game play to expedite or bypass an in game system, then they have crossed the line into P2W, and the door is open for more and more items of the same nature.
Exactly this mrskinnybeans
But thanks for the thread lol a joke thread now and then to get the [Insert Line] away. 0 -
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✭✭✭Nyghthowler wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »Nyghthowler wrote: »Sounds good. Lets encourage ZoS to start selling skill lines in the Crown store. Then items with stats. Why play to get it when you can just drop another $20.00 and insta win?
Every one want new content? Too bad; but $50.00 will buy you a V14 character. Never be bored again with the same old content, just insta level with cash.
/sarcasm
There's no need for anger my friend.
I am just saying zos would be a hero to the community by offering the infection.
It could still be obtainable in game and would not change the game.
I'm not angry. Just stop and consider what's being asked for. I have no problem with cosmetic and convenience items in the C.S. . When they add the first item that bypasses regular game play to expedite or bypass an in game system, then they have crossed the line into P2W, and the door is open for more and more items of the same nature.
You mean like horse training? Also you might want to look up what pay to win means. Pay to win means the only way to "win" (in this case get infected) is via RMT and not available any other way.0 -
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mrskinskull✭✭✭✭mrskinskull wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »reapthetempestrwb17_ESO wrote: »While you're at it why not make killing Molag Bal a crown store purchase, or becoming emperor
That's a weak comparison.
No other players can prevent you from fighting molag ball as the can with the vamps.
Worse yet other players can't overcharge you for the crime of getting to the spawn point even minutes behind them. You were late to the game or didn't transfer your PC vamp so now you must pay 18 k .
Your argument is as tacky as a bite charger.
Crown store the item and move on.
All i see is boooohooohooo i missed out on my bite *crying*
Lol just admit it and i will turn you
I don't want a bite and this is exactly the kind of crap I'm talking about.
Why should anyone beg a no life such as yourself for anything?
So i am a no lifer for having it?
Someone is sooo jelly
Cmon buddy admit it and i will bite ya
Personally i think the lines are not worth anything they have been nerfed to heck.
You might be a no lifer for acting like the sky is falling if zos decides to offer a needed service in the crown store.
Why do you care so much if its too nerfed ?
I would rather zos charges for something I don't care about then it monetizes something integral to the game.
Actually you have made my point for me.
Its too weak to be a real threat to game balance.
Hero is signing off on vamps as not a very large effect on game balance which is 80 percent of the way agreeing with me.
Zos hero and I both agree infections sold in the crown store would not affect game balance in any major way because it has been nerfed.
Thanks hero. Together we can build consensus and get zos to enact our shared dream of crown store infections.;)0 -
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✭mrskinskull wrote: »Nyghthowler wrote: »Sounds good. Lets encourage ZoS to start selling skill lines in the Crown store. Then items with stats. Why play to get it when you can just drop another $20.00 and insta win?
Every one want new content? Too bad; but $50.00 will buy you a V14 character. Never be bored again with the same old content, just insta level with cash.
/sarcasm
There's no need for anger my friend.
I am just saying zos would be a hero to the community by offering the infection.
It could still be obtainable in game and would not change the game.
You don't seem to get the concept of slippery slope. Folks have tried to explain it to you and you ignore it.
I'd also like to add that you need to get better at getting a bite/scratch. It's a skill thing.3 -
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✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Nyghthowler wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »Nyghthowler wrote: »Sounds good. Lets encourage ZoS to start selling skill lines in the Crown store. Then items with stats. Why play to get it when you can just drop another $20.00 and insta win?
Every one want new content? Too bad; but $50.00 will buy you a V14 character. Never be bored again with the same old content, just insta level with cash.
/sarcasm
There's no need for anger my friend.
I am just saying zos would be a hero to the community by offering the infection.
It could still be obtainable in game and would not change the game.
I'm not angry. Just stop and consider what's being asked for. I have no problem with cosmetic and convenience items in the C.S. . When they add the first item that bypasses regular game play to expedite or bypass an in game system, then they have crossed the line into P2W, and the door is open for more and more items of the same nature.
You mean like horse training? Also you might want to look up what pay to win means. Pay to win means the only way to "win" (in this case get infected) is via RMT and not available any other way.
P2W is ANY SOLD ITEM that requires CASH to bypass an IN GAME SYSTEM for instant and immediate gratification.
Edit; I don't agree with the horse training either, but it's not unlocking a SKILL LINE.Edited by Nyghthowler on 23 June 2015 23:30I'm not prejudiced; I hate everyone equally !1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Nyghthowler wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »Nyghthowler wrote: »Sounds good. Lets encourage ZoS to start selling skill lines in the Crown store. Then items with stats. Why play to get it when you can just drop another $20.00 and insta win?
Every one want new content? Too bad; but $50.00 will buy you a V14 character. Never be bored again with the same old content, just insta level with cash.
/sarcasm
There's no need for anger my friend.
I am just saying zos would be a hero to the community by offering the infection.
It could still be obtainable in game and would not change the game.
I'm not angry. Just stop and consider what's being asked for. I have no problem with cosmetic and convenience items in the C.S. . When they add the first item that bypasses regular game play to expedite or bypass an in game system, then they have crossed the line into P2W, and the door is open for more and more items of the same nature.
You mean like horse training? Also you might want to look up what pay to win means. Pay to win means the only way to "win" (in this case get infected) is via RMT and not available any other way.
Or paying to increase your chances of winning.
Lol 80 people around 1 spawn point, like i said everyone deviates to the 1 most known spawn point. There are others and they spawn in a general area not just in that 1 spot.mrskinskull wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Work for it? How is paying some guy a few gold to get infected "working for it"?
Simple.
1. Use the internet to figure out the spawn times and places. This way you don't sit the same spot for a week when they only spawn on a certain moon.
2. Go to a spawn place where there's not 40 people. There is plenty, they don't spawn 1 per spot there's about 5-6 in the general area, there are 4 spawn spots. Which is the same for vamps/ww they just spawn on different moons.
3. Block. You get infected fast.
Done with my 15 minutes of research that me and my friends did when they decided to be vamps. Waiting until new moon, went to spot, 5 mins later, magical vamps appeared, 5 seconds later they were both infected. Sure beats waiting at shrines, spamming inbox's, posting countless threads... they even bite people for free as well after it.
Find a vamp spawn without 80 people at it, lol.
That's rarer than the vamps.
Plus there are players killing the vamps.
You are funny.
A bit slow.
But funny.
This 'slow person found a vamp spawn point without 80 people around it, there was no one. Try not following the mass people all waiting at that 1 most known spawn point. Had enough time to get both my friends infected and leave the area without another player even noticing them.
Pay 2 win - means you pay money to skip grinding/save time/make the actual gameplay easier.
it's not hard to level the lines either, ww takes 30-40 mins to max it.
But sure, lets just put a convenient, 'i'm to impatient and lazy to work for it, so here is money let me skip it' into the store.
Likely end up with people buying cp. Or to instantly skip to 50 and go straight to vet.
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Heromofo✭✭✭✭✭mrskinskull wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »reapthetempestrwb17_ESO wrote: »While you're at it why not make killing Molag Bal a crown store purchase, or becoming emperor
That's a weak comparison.
No other players can prevent you from fighting molag ball as the can with the vamps.
Worse yet other players can't overcharge you for the crime of getting to the spawn point even minutes behind them. You were late to the game or didn't transfer your PC vamp so now you must pay 18 k .
Your argument is as tacky as a bite charger.
Crown store the item and move on.
All i see is boooohooohooo i missed out on my bite *crying*
Lol just admit it and i will turn you
I don't want a bite and this is exactly the kind of crap I'm talking about.
Why should anyone beg a no life such as yourself for anything?
So i am a no lifer for having it?
Someone is sooo jelly
Cmon buddy admit it and i will bite ya
Personally i think the lines are not worth anything they have been nerfed to heck.
You might be a no lifer for acting like the sky is falling if zos decides to offer a needed service in the crown store.
Why do you care so much if its too nerfed ?
I would rather zos charges for something I don't care about then it monetizes something integral to the game.
Actually you have made my point for me.
Its too weak to be a real threat to game balance.
Hero is signing off on vamps as not a very large effect on game balance which is 80 percent of the way agreeing with me.
Zos hero and I both agree infections sold in the crown store would not affect game balance in any major way because it has been nerfed.
Thanks hero. Together we can build consensus and get zos to enact our shared dream of crown store infections.;)
Lol ahah i will make a troll out of you yet!
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mrskinskull✭✭✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Nyghthowler wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Nyghthowler wrote: »Sounds good. Lets encourage ZoS to start selling skill lines in the Crown store. Then items with stats. Why play to get it when you can just drop another $20.00 and insta win?
Every one want new content? Too bad; but $50.00 will buy you a V14 character. Never be bored again with the same old content, just insta level with cash.
/sarcasm
Ya I mean getting an infection is the same thing as selling entire skill lines and a v14 character. Also what exactly do you win being infected again?
If you don't care about the skill line that goes with the bite, then why are y'all so butthurt about getting it?? It's not the bite, but the actives and passives they unlock. If ZoS starts selling Vamp and WW SKILL LINES, that opens the door for adding other items that affect game play in the Cash Shop Crown Store.
You still would have to level the skill. They arent selling entire skill lines. All items in the store will affect gameplay. Saying they will sell a maxxed out character is simply hyperbole.
I don't want the bites and you've got em.
Bites in the crown store would be no big deal.
All the people arguing against already have them so what's the problem?
No one is butthurt. I just hate seeing people getting preyed on for no good purpose.
At least zos would be collecting for a dlc fund of sorts. Production. Costs.
I don't care if some bite charging troll is raising money for his third horse.
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✭✭✭Nyghthowler wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Nyghthowler wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »Nyghthowler wrote: »Sounds good. Lets encourage ZoS to start selling skill lines in the Crown store. Then items with stats. Why play to get it when you can just drop another $20.00 and insta win?
Every one want new content? Too bad; but $50.00 will buy you a V14 character. Never be bored again with the same old content, just insta level with cash.
/sarcasm
There's no need for anger my friend.
I am just saying zos would be a hero to the community by offering the infection.
It could still be obtainable in game and would not change the game.
I'm not angry. Just stop and consider what's being asked for. I have no problem with cosmetic and convenience items in the C.S. . When they add the first item that bypasses regular game play to expedite or bypass an in game system, then they have crossed the line into P2W, and the door is open for more and more items of the same nature.
You mean like horse training? Also you might want to look up what pay to win means. Pay to win means the only way to "win" (in this case get infected) is via RMT and not available any other way.
P2W is ANY SOLD ITEM that requires CASH to bypass an IN GAME SYSTEM for instant and immediate gratification.
Edit; I don't agree with the horse training either, but it's not unlocking a SKILL LINE.
Not true. Google it.0 -
mrskinskull✭✭✭✭mrskinskull wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »reapthetempestrwb17_ESO wrote: »While you're at it why not make killing Molag Bal a crown store purchase, or becoming emperor
That's a weak comparison.
No other players can prevent you from fighting molag ball as the can with the vamps.
Worse yet other players can't overcharge you for the crime of getting to the spawn point even minutes behind them. You were late to the game or didn't transfer your PC vamp so now you must pay 18 k .
Your argument is as tacky as a bite charger.
Crown store the item and move on.
All i see is boooohooohooo i missed out on my bite *crying*
Lol just admit it and i will turn you
I don't want a bite and this is exactly the kind of crap I'm talking about.
Why should anyone beg a no life such as yourself for anything?
So i am a no lifer for having it?
Someone is sooo jelly
Cmon buddy admit it and i will bite ya
Personally i think the lines are not worth anything they have been nerfed to heck.
You might be a no lifer for acting like the sky is falling if zos decides to offer a needed service in the crown store.
Why do you care so much if its too nerfed ?
I would rather zos charges for something I don't care about then it monetizes something integral to the game.
Actually you have made my point for me.
Its too weak to be a real threat to game balance.
Hero is signing off on vamps as not a very large effect on game balance which is 80 percent of the way agreeing with me.
Zos hero and I both agree infections sold in the crown store would not affect game balance in any major way because it has been nerfed.
Thanks hero. Together we can build consensus and get zos to enact our shared dream of crown store infections.;)
Lol ahah i will make a troll out of you yet!
Know that not even family is safe
Sounds like my family would be safe from your supernatural bite at least;)
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mrskinskull✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Nyghthowler wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »Nyghthowler wrote: »Sounds good. Lets encourage ZoS to start selling skill lines in the Crown store. Then items with stats. Why play to get it when you can just drop another $20.00 and insta win?
Every one want new content? Too bad; but $50.00 will buy you a V14 character. Never be bored again with the same old content, just insta level with cash.
/sarcasm
There's no need for anger my friend.
I am just saying zos would be a hero to the community by offering the infection.
It could still be obtainable in game and would not change the game.
I'm not angry. Just stop and consider what's being asked for. I have no problem with cosmetic and convenience items in the C.S. . When they add the first item that bypasses regular game play to expedite or bypass an in game system, then they have crossed the line into P2W, and the door is open for more and more items of the same nature.
You mean like horse training? Also you might want to look up what pay to win means. Pay to win means the only way to "win" (in this case get infected) is via RMT and not available any other way.
Or paying to increase your chances of winning.
Lol 80 people around 1 spawn point, like i said everyone deviates to the 1 most known spawn point. There are others and they spawn in a general area not just in that 1 spot.mrskinskull wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Work for it? How is paying some guy a few gold to get infected "working for it"?
Simple.
1. Use the internet to figure out the spawn times and places. This way you don't sit the same spot for a week when they only spawn on a certain moon.
2. Go to a spawn place where there's not 40 people. There is plenty, they don't spawn 1 per spot there's about 5-6 in the general area, there are 4 spawn spots. Which is the same for vamps/ww they just spawn on different moons.
3. Block. You get infected fast.
Done with my 15 minutes of research that me and my friends did when they decided to be vamps. Waiting until new moon, went to spot, 5 mins later, magical vamps appeared, 5 seconds later they were both infected. Sure beats waiting at shrines, spamming inbox's, posting countless threads... they even bite people for free as well after it.
Find a vamp spawn without 80 people at it, lol.
That's rarer than the vamps.
Plus there are players killing the vamps.
You are funny.
A bit slow.
But funny.
This 'slow person found a vamp spawn point without 80 people around it, there was no one. Try not following the mass people all waiting at that 1 most known spawn point. Had enough time to get both my friends infected and leave the area without another player even noticing them.
Pay 2 win - means you pay money to skip grinding/save time/make the actual gameplay easier.
it's not hard to level the lines either, ww takes 30-40 mins to max it.
But sure, lets just put a convenient, 'i'm to impatient and lazy to work for it, so here is money let me skip it' into the store.
Likely end up with people buying cp. Or to instantly skip to 50 and go straight to vet.
I still don't understand how that hurts your experience.
That's what it comes down to.
Not everyone has the time to grind and so what.
The more people that pay for ancillary items, the less money zos needs from you.
If zos runs the crown store right, your personal experience will never change.
Who cares how the guy next to you got infected unless its from the toilet seat you are about to sit on.
The sky will not fall.
The worst case scenario is no lifers may have actual competition in PvP.
PvP is already wildly unbalanced so I can't see more vampires really changing the mix.
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BlueViolet✭✭✭✭✭Ugh, no, absolutely not. Why should things be shoved into the crown store just because some people are too impatient to wait? I had to wait until I was level 46 to be infected with Lycanthropy, checking every time there was a full moon to wait for a spawn. Not once did I whine about not getting a bite and running to ZoS to put it into a store, even though there were plenty of players back then killing the WW spawns.
Once you start putting skill lines in, where do you stop? Do they start adding things like V14 characters in the store because people are too lazy or impatient to actually play the game? What about an "module" unlock token, like Cryptic did to Neverwinter? Shoving an entire module unlock in the store that you only need to click and you've suddenly finished every challenge / quest / and unlocked every passive buff in the expansions. Where does it end, once you go down that road?
No thanks. Keeping it cosmetic is the best way to go. If people can't be bothered to actually play the game, then why are they bothering with it in the first place?EU / NA / PC2 -
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✭✭✭✭mrskinskull wrote: »No money for bites. People should stop giving money for it. Let us biters enjoy the full part of the fun, and roleplay by biting.
So no crownstore... jyst as is please
Yeah a free roleplayed bite is the ideal thing!
Its people paying trolls for bites that is robbing this kind of imaginative play from the game.
So yeah crown store bites and then we can go back to playing for fun.
Theres no need for this at all. Eventually the nonsense of selling bites on PC cooled down and so will Console. After the Bite Sellers grow bored of all of this most players will be able to freely get a bite either from friends or from the mobs themselves.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax2 -
Kavatchian✭✭✭I really want to be a vampire, but I'm just NOT buying a bite. I think that it kills the whole fun behind getting the bite perk. Buying your way into becoming vampire is just dumb. It would be more fun to have initiation rituals for the player to do or make them reach a certain rank. Not buy it.
Whenever I do become a vampire, and obtain the perk I promise not to be the person who sells it like a hooker.North America | Xbox One | Prince of Evil
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✭✭✭✭Kavatchian wrote: »I really want to be a vampire, but I'm just NOT buying a bite. I think that it kills the whole fun behind getting the bite perk. Buying your way into becoming vampire is just dumb. It would be more fun to have initiation rituals for the player to do or make them reach a certain rank. Not buy it.
Whenever I do become a vampire, and obtain the perk I promise not to be the person who sells it like a hooker.
I give bites free, but I have on occasion been offered a tip, which makes me feel a bit uncomfortable - I run a guild so tend to say "if you want to give something, make a donation to the guild, or offer bites to other guildmates for free"GM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
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Kavatchian✭✭✭Kavatchian wrote: »I really want to be a vampire, but I'm just NOT buying a bite. I think that it kills the whole fun behind getting the bite perk. Buying your way into becoming vampire is just dumb. It would be more fun to have initiation rituals for the player to do or make them reach a certain rank. Not buy it.
Whenever I do become a vampire, and obtain the perk I promise not to be the person who sells it like a hooker.
I give bites free, but I have on occasion been offered a tip, which makes me feel a bit uncomfortable - I run a guild so tend to say "if you want to give something, make a donation to the guild, or offer bites to other guildmates for free"
I'd gladly offer bite services for your guild in exchange. I just can't bring myself to buy a bite. I could offer my services to your guild as will.Edited by Kavatchian on 24 June 2015 00:07North America | Xbox One | Prince of Evil
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Bookwyrm✭✭✭✭No, please.
Getting the bite is currently the hardest part of the entire ordeal, and that was definitely not the case before. It kills me that they nerfed the quests and made them a cakewalk. I understand that people want to roleplay these characters, but it can be done without the actual skill until you get it, and it felt so much more awesome completing the quest when it was a challenge--especially if you did it at lower levels.
Plus, I'd rather see less game-mechanic items in the crown store and let them stick to more fluff items. I know some people disagree and don't want to spend their crowns on fluff, but I really don't want to see this game go down the "Buy top-notch armor and weapons with crowns, level up with crowns, skip the whole game with crowns!" road.
I don't disagree that there are some issues with getting the bite, especially when you have players directly interfering with that, but believe us when those of us who experienced this on PC say "It won't last forever." People get bored and move on. More players become werewolves/vampires, and the price of bites goes down...suddenly people are giving them out for free. I got mine from a brand new guildmate back when they were still being sold on PC. He didn't feel like advertising so he just offered it to whoever wanted it that was in the guild. Of course...such things are easier to negotiate with text chat...>.>
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✭✭No, just no.
Statement 1: This won't affect your game experience.
Answer 1: Yes it will, because it will teach ZOS about what they can get away with putting in the crown store. I want content not this convenience rubbish. Teach ZOS that they can make money from pointless system additions like this and what we will get in the future is pointless system additions instead of actual content,
Statement 2: The only people arguing against this have bites or are bite sellers.
Answer 2: Attempted ad hominem. I don't have a bite, have no interest in bites and do not sell bites. I am still against this. Fail.
Statement 3: ZOS will make money from this to put towards further development.
Answer 3: Really? Even with a "stable of rubes" as you put it, they failed to come through with promised content. This is a problem that will solve itself in time (and not even too much of that) and will require developer resources to put into place. Considering these 3 factors, why would this be in anyone's interest to add? Except, of course, for those who would rather buy game systems rather than actually play the game.2 -
The_Sadist✭✭✭✭✭Pay to bypass game's mechanic.
It's just ludicrous.
Pretty sure this.
Very much against this sort of thing. I'm already frustrated the crown store sells motifs, vampirism and lycanthropy should not be sold via the store. Once the server settles down actually snagging a bite from someone is easy and free, the PC version of the game had the same issues upon release and people paid silly amounts for a bite.Edited by The_Sadist on 24 June 2015 04:43"Each event is preceded by Prophecy. But without the hero, there is no Event." ― Zurin Arctus, the Underking.Tragrim - How do I work this thing?
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Wolfshead✭✭✭✭mrskinskull wrote: »How much would you pay in the crown store to just get a bite already?
18k at the peak value is about 14 bucks
1 k at the lowest offer.
I say offer because every troll in the game is offering a bite if you join their trash guild or meet them in a far off wayshirine and they never show up.
Why is the crown store offering new mounts when it could be
A -offering a service people are clamouring for
B- could stop trolls harrasing new ignorant players with vampire bite guild invites.
C-the crown store offers convenience items. A working adult can't farm the spawn spots and could hypethetically become bitten on a long enough timeline so offering the vampire bite without promise of quest completion is really the same As an experience boost.
The trolls are charging players for the bites they are keeping rare by killing off the blood fiends when they spawn. Why do they kill the blood fiends? Because players pay for bites, driving the market.
All the players who would like to see the infections sold as convenience items in the crown store please post your support below.
No frack way what about us who work our butt off to compelete that questline do we get??
I would suggest you do quest if dont want get troll by other people but serious ZoS should not start sell quest/quest reward in crown store then we are start on a road lead down to P2W
You can go on web and found help how to become a werewolf and vampire and how to compelete those quest but for love god this is one of most stupid idea to add it to crown store.Edited by Wolfshead on 24 June 2015 04:45If you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled; for you are in Elysium, and you're already deadWhat we do in life, echoes in eternity1 -
mrskinskull✭✭✭✭coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »Nyghthowler wrote: »Sounds good. Lets encourage ZoS to start selling skill lines in the Crown store. Then items with stats. Why play to get it when you can just drop another $20.00 and insta win?
Every one want new content? Too bad; but $50.00 will buy you a V14 character. Never be bored again with the same old content, just insta level with cash.
/sarcasm
There's no need for anger my friend.
I am just saying zos would be a hero to the community by offering the infection.
It could still be obtainable in game and would not change the game.
You don't seem to get the concept of slippery slope. Folks have tried to explain it to you and you ignore it.
I'd also like to add that you need to get better at getting a bite/scratch. It's a skill thing.
I understand a slippery slope argument as a rhetorical device and it is a false equivication. That's what a slippery slope argument is. Its loosely tying one event to another falsely implying one is the cause of the other.
If gays marry, then monkeys will marry, then cars will marry and traffic on the i-19 will be backed up for weeks.
That's what these slippery slope arguments are. False.
The horse option is exactly the same as an infection offering.
Why are people so against it if most already have it?
Its kind of pathetic to argue against a sound financial move on zos' part.
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mrskinskull✭✭✭✭BlueViolet wrote: »Ugh, no, absolutely not. Why should things be shoved into the crown store just because some people are too impatient to wait? I had to wait until I was level 46 to be infected with Lycanthropy, checking every time there was a full moon to wait for a spawn. Not once did I whine about not getting a bite and running to ZoS to put it into a store, even though there were plenty of players back then killing the WW spawns.
Once you start putting skill lines in, where do you stop? Do they start adding things like V14 characters in the store because people are too lazy or impatient to actually play the game? What about an "module" unlock token, like Cryptic did to Neverwinter? Shoving an entire module unlock in the store that you only need to click and you've suddenly finished every challenge / quest / and unlocked every passive buff in the expansions. Where does it end, once you go down that road?
No thanks. Keeping it cosmetic is the best way to go. If people can't be bothered to actually play the game, then why are they bothering with it in the first place?
The game isn't a job and its not work.
Stop acting like you suffered for some heroic feat.
You sat on your butt and pressed some buttons.
I know I do the same thing.
Some people work all those hours you are 'laboring' away in your recliner-
Stop being so dramatic.
You didn't earn anything of any real merit if we're being honest here.
Infections in the crown store just make good sense for the actual players. The lol trolls won't like it and are going full swing in this thread.
Zos should be take all this vitriol to mean crown store infections would be a way to make the actual player pool happier and kinder.
Maybe many of you wouldn't charge for a bite. Good for you.
There's still too many new players being turned away by the old paid for vampire bite and prick loggs off without delivering.0 -
mrskinskull✭✭✭✭BlueViolet wrote: »Ugh, no, absolutely not. Why should things be shoved into the crown store just because some people are too impatient to wait? I had to wait until I was level 46 to be infected with Lycanthropy, checking every time there was a full moon to wait for a spawn. Not once did I whine about not getting a bite and running to ZoS to put it into a store, even though there were plenty of players back then killing the WW spawns.
Once you start putting skill lines in, where do you stop? Do they start adding things like V14 characters in the store because people are too lazy or impatient to actually play the game? What about an "module" unlock token, like Cryptic did to Neverwinter? Shoving an entire module unlock in the store that you only need to click and you've suddenly finished every challenge / quest / and unlocked every passive buff in the expansions. Where does it end, once you go down that road?
No thanks. Keeping it cosmetic is the best way to go. If people can't be bothered to actually play the game, then why are they bothering with it in the first place?
The game isn't a job and its not work.
Stop acting like you suffered for some heroic feat.
You sat on your butt and pressed some buttons.
I know I do the same thing.
Some people work all those hours you are 'laboring' away in your recliner-
Stop being so dramatic.
You didn't earn anything of any real merit if we're being honest here.
Infections in the crown store just make good sense for the actual players. The lol trolls won't like it and are going full swing in this thread.
Zos should be take all this vitriol to mean crown store infections would be a way to make the actual player pool happier and kinder.
Maybe many of you wouldn't charge for a bite. Good for you.
There's still too many new players being turned away by the old paid for vampire bite and prick loggs off without delivering.1 -
mrskinskull✭✭✭✭Lol this will happen.
Let me tell you how I know.
Right about now zos is sifting through all of the reports they got at launch on, right?
I can't connect! Too many people love and want this game! Stuff like that will fill the first wave.
The second wave of reports is thousands of
He promised me a vsmp bite and took my money.
That player promised a we bite and just took all the money I had!
Etc. Their inbox is full. If gameplay area chat from actual players is any indication, this will no doubt be on their radar but have to b addressed.
ESO needs new players to stay.
Not bitter 8th character vet rank complainers.
The juicy new player base will be served. Not the no lifere parsing out vamp bites to feel important.
Its a win win for zos to put infections in the crown store. Money for them.
for new players into that sort of thing and qq for troll con men.
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