Console players - We want text typing chat?

Zargorius

No, voice chat is enough

Cuyler wrote: »

Zargorius wrote: »

Cuyler wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Nicely as I can put it

If you feel as a console gamer that using a keyboard while playing is normal or an ideal experience. Based on ZOS, they are not targeting you. Doesn't mean they don't want you to enjoy the game but you fit into their PC target as stated and not their console target.

Please let's move onto things that actually need addressing on console rather than personal differences of communication styles.

Smurf you can move on, stop single handedly spearheading the fight for no console zone chat and let the 70% of the player base who want it continue to request this important feature.

Edit: Just saying...you say move on but then come to respond to every single post.

70% of the player base? Can you point me to a report from where you got this information? Just curious where you are getting your data from as it should contain many other interesting facts as well.

Excuse me 70% of the poll's sample. You can go back to page 1 to see the results if you like

I hope you do realise that a poll of this kind has no relevance whatsoever due to being too small, pre-selected and biased?

Alphashado

Yes, there has to be text chat in a MMO

lovESOng wrote: »

I am looking forward to immersive gameplay without WTS spam ☺

So strange how you can get this RIGHT NOW by simply closing the chat window. Why do people keep saying this? Why would you want to remove a feature that so many people want just because you are too stubborn to simply shut it off? Man this thread is frustrating.

Cuyler

Yes, there has to be text chat in a MMO

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Cuyler wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Nicely as I can put it

If you feel as a console gamer that using a keyboard while playing is normal or an ideal experience. Based on ZOS, they are not targeting you. Doesn't mean they don't want you to enjoy the game but you fit into their PC target as stated and not their console target.

Please let's move onto things that actually need addressing on console rather than personal differences of communication styles.

Smurf you can move on, stop single handedly spearheading the fight for no console zone chat and let the 70% of the player base who want it continue to request this important feature.

Edit: Just saying...you say move on but then come to respond to every single post.

Please don't ask me to move on again

If you're still commenting...guess what

Now respectfully, my desire to participate in any conversation is in line with the rules on this forum. Not disrespecting anyone or their ideas. If that bothers you... :-)

If you can't take the heat of the discussion.... )

Edit: many of us are passionate about the feature not being added and you want it added.
Personally I continue to rest on ZOS and their information and decisions thus far and if they decide to change I'll support that as well.

BUt to say as a gamer...I like this game but can't support the companies decision. I think maybe it's time to step away if that's the attitude you have

LOL, you asked us to move on..or did I miss something? I'm not bothered and was just pointing out the contradiction in your request for everyone to move on. And I could say the same, please don't ask us to move on again.

Annnnd you're putting words in my mouth...don't.....I like the game and support the company, just because I don't support one decision by that company is not enough of a grounds to "step away". Not enough LOL

Uberkull

Yes, there has to be text chat in a MMO

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Cuyler wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Nicely as I can put it

If you feel as a console gamer that using a keyboard while playing is normal or an ideal experience. Based on ZOS, they are not targeting you. Doesn't mean they don't want you to enjoy the game but you fit into their PC target as stated and not their console target.

Please let's move onto things that actually need addressing on console rather than personal differences of communication styles.

Smurf you can move on, stop single handedly spearheading the fight for no console zone chat and let the 70% of the player base who want it continue to request this important feature.

Edit: Just saying...you say move on but then come to respond to every single post.

Please don't ask me to move on again

If you're still commenting...guess what

Now respectfully, my desire to participate in any conversation is in line with the rules on this forum. Not disrespecting anyone or their ideas. If that bothers you... :-)

If you can't take the heat of the discussion.... )

Edit: many of us are passionate about the feature not being added and you want it added.
Personally I continue to rest on ZOS and their information and decisions thus far and if they decide to change I'll support that as well.

BUt to say as a gamer...I like this game but can't support the companies decision. I think maybe it's time to step away if that's the attitude you have

Either you have me on ignore or you just can't handle a dose of reality that I'm providing you.

We aren't asking for them to add whole new features or functionality here. That's the kicker. We are asking them the leave in the chat system that's already there. They decided to turn it off because they felt sitting on a couch with a keyboard wasn't what ZOS thinks is enjoyable. They removed a feature that existed based on their own choices, not player feedback.

What should have been done is leave text chat in for beta and get actual player feedback. If it was a negative experience in beta, based on player feedback, then pull it.

Mirra_Halfelven

Yes, there has to be text chat in a MMO

uberkull wrote: »

Either you have me on ignore or you just can't handle a dose of reality that I'm providing you.

We aren't asking for them to add whole new features or functionality here. That's the kicker. We are asking them the leave in the chat system that's already there. They decided to turn it off because they felt sitting on a couch with a keyboard wasn't what ZOS thinks is enjoyable. They removed a feature that existed based on their own choices, not player feedback.

What should have been done is leave text chat in for beta and get actual player feedback. If it was a negative experience in beta, based on player feedback, then pull it.

+9000

And I might add up until just before the beta text chat was in. Hell they even told a deaf player few months ago it was ... how's that for karma ..

Hi ESO. I have been looking forward to this game all year and can’t wait for it to become available on the PS4. I would like to know if Chatbox will be available on console versions, as it is on the PC? I am deaf myself so I would be relying on Chatbox to allow me to communicate with other people on the game.
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[–]zos_konk 27 points 3 months ago
Yes, you have the option of using the text chatbox on console as well. Furthermore, you can plug in a standard USB keyboard into your PS4 and use it to type, if you want.

The chat window collapses by default, but can be pinned to the HUD if you want.
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vFadeToBlackv

Yes, there has to be text chat in a MMO

After playing the game on PC for a few months I decided to go ahead and take advantage of the transfer to PS4. I don't see how they could manage any form of passable quality communication for large groups (especially for Cyrodiil, large guilds, and for a kind of trade chat) but I guess I have my fingers crossed that it doesn't completely suck.

I would definitely like to see text chat for the console version, with the option to disable it if you so desire. This is coming from a lifelong console gamer that only plays on the PC when I have to or I can use a controller for a game I bought on sale. I just find mouse and keyboard to be uncomfortable, even though it does offer many more options for gameplay. I have a coffee table between my couch and the TV, this seems pretty common, and find it's a great place to keep a keyboard for text communication on console.

Alphashado

Yes, there has to be text chat in a MMO

The notion that they excluded text chat from console because they "want to appeal to the couch guy" is equally outlandish with the notion that they switched to B2P because "Its what the community wanted". Both of those lines are very obviously cop outs.

Here is what I envision happened at the last developmental meeting:

Fred - "How is text chat coming along?"
Sara - "Umm.. not so good. We are running into several technical issues with it working smoothly."
Fred - "Will it be ready by our announced launch date?"
Sara - "Umm.."
Fred - "Well this is a nice pickle we're in now isn't it."
Sara - "Umm..."
Fred - "So what are we going to do now?"
Sara - "Umm.."
George - "Umm..."
Sam - "Umm..."
Tony - "Umm..."

Kate - "I got it! We will just tell them that we are targeting a smaller demographic. A more traditional type gamer! This way we will sound wise and empathetic to the ES purists, while buying more time to finish development. Then when it's finished, we can say that we listen to the community and decided to add the feature after all."

Fred - "Brilliant!"

Yes, I know it sounds like quackery, but this is how my brain works

Heromofo

Yes, there has to be text chat in a MMO

Alphashado wrote: »

The notion that they excluded text chat from console because they "want to appeal to the couch guy" is equally outlandish with the notion that they switched to B2P because "Its what the community wanted". Both of those lines are very obviously cop outs.

Here is what I envision happened at the last developmental meeting:

Fred - "How is text chat coming along?"
Sara - "Umm.. not so good. We are running into several technical issues with it working smoothly."
Fred - "Will it be ready by our announced launch date?"
Sara - "Umm.."
Fred - "Well this is a nice pickle we're in now isn't it."
Sara - "Umm..."
Fred - "So what are we going to do now?"
Sara - "Umm.."
George - "Umm..."
Sam - "Umm..."
Tony - "Umm..."

Kate - "I got it! We will just tell them that we are targeting a smaller, more traditional type gamer! This way we will sound wise and empathetic to the ES purists, while buying more time to finish development. Then when it's finished, we can say that we listen to the community and decided to add the feature after all."

Fred - "Brilliant!"

Yes, I know it sounds like crackery, but this is how my brain works

Uuuum is it wierd that this makes 100 percent perfect sense?.

NewBlacksmurf

No, voice chat is enough

Alphashado wrote: »

lovESOng wrote: »

I am looking forward to immersive gameplay without WTS spam ☺

So strange how you can get this RIGHT NOW by simply closing the chat window. Why do people keep saying this? Why would you want to remove a feature that so many people want just because you are too stubborn to simply shut it off? Man this thread is frustrating.

Honestly because if the behavior is to turn it off and leave it off...what spend time developing to add it for a select few when it exists already on another platform where it's welcomed

Alphashado

Yes, there has to be text chat in a MMO

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Alphashado wrote: »

lovESOng wrote: »

I am looking forward to immersive gameplay without WTS spam ☺

So strange how you can get this RIGHT NOW by simply closing the chat window. Why do people keep saying this? Why would you want to remove a feature that so many people want just because you are too stubborn to simply shut it off? Man this thread is frustrating.

Honestly because if the behavior is to turn it off and leave it off...what spend time developing to add it for a select few when it exists already on another platform where it's welcomed

Why put electric windows in a Ford Bronco when they are already in the Mustang? If people want electric windows they can just buy a Mustang then right?

Vaerth

I'm not going to play console now that I've seen there is no text chat

uberkull wrote: »

With the announcement that there will be NO text based chat on console, only voice proximity chat, is this acceptable for a MMO? Think of PvP, Trade professions, and general text chat in any MMO, then decide...do we want text typing chat?

This is PC forums, not console

PKMN12

Yes, there has to be text chat in a MMO

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Alphashado wrote: »

lovESOng wrote: »

I am looking forward to immersive gameplay without WTS spam ☺

So strange how you can get this RIGHT NOW by simply closing the chat window. Why do people keep saying this? Why would you want to remove a feature that so many people want just because you are too stubborn to simply shut it off? Man this thread is frustrating.

Honestly because if the behavior is to turn it off and leave it off...what spend time developing to add it for a select few when it exists already on another platform where it's welcomed

but we already know you are wrong here, it is not just "a select few" most agree that it is a NEEDED feature. Look at destiny if you want an example of a game that lacks it. not having a chat box is one of the major negatives of the game for most people.

NewBlacksmurf

No, voice chat is enough

Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

Either you have me on ignore or you just can't handle a dose of reality that I'm providing you.

We aren't asking for them to add whole new features or functionality here. That's the kicker. We are asking them the leave in the chat system that's already there. They decided to turn it off because they felt sitting on a couch with a keyboard wasn't what ZOS thinks is enjoyable. They removed a feature that existed based on their own choices, not player feedback.

What should have been done is leave text chat in for beta and get actual player feedback. If it was a negative experience in beta, based on player feedback, then pull it.

+9000

And I might add up until just before the beta text chat was in. Hell they even told a deaf player few months ago it was ... how's that for karma ..

Hi ESO. I have been looking forward to this game all year and can’t wait for it to become available on the PS4. I would like to know if Chatbox will be available on console versions, as it is on the PC? I am deaf myself so I would be relying on Chatbox to allow me to communicate with other people on the game.
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[–]zos_konk 27 points 3 months ago
Yes, you have the option of using the text chatbox on console as well. Furthermore, you can plug in a standard USB keyboard into your PS4 and use it to type, if you want.

The chat window collapses by default, but can be pinned to the HUD if you want.
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No matter how you spin it. Your perspectives and expectations are based on a product that never existed on console.
To expect the same game experience on a different platform where the peripherals are different and some aren't even supported isn't logical.

Just as such playing on PC shouldn't expect voice chat and controller support out the gate.

12 months from now, maybe you'll see iterations of some text chat functionality but right now ZOS has made it clear. No
Arguing because you can't accept their decisions or because your expectations are otherwise is kinda odd behavior.

Giving feedback because your opinion differs is fine.

I think during the past weekend we all did a good job of sharing our opinions and they even said...thanks we listened and heard your voices.

Listening doesn't mean change will come, listening only means acknowledgement.
But they also gave us all rationale of their decisions.

Uberkull

Yes, there has to be text chat in a MMO

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Alphashado wrote: »

lovESOng wrote: »

I am looking forward to immersive gameplay without WTS spam ☺

So strange how you can get this RIGHT NOW by simply closing the chat window. Why do people keep saying this? Why would you want to remove a feature that so many people want just because you are too stubborn to simply shut it off? Man this thread is frustrating.

Honestly because if the behavior is to turn it off and leave it off...what spend time developing to add it for a select few when it exists already on another platform where it's welcomed

'...a select few'
There you go again, commenting and alienating an entire player group who wants text chat.

NewBlacksmurf

No, voice chat is enough

uberkull wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Alphashado wrote: »

lovESOng wrote: »

I am looking forward to immersive gameplay without WTS spam ☺

So strange how you can get this RIGHT NOW by simply closing the chat window. Why do people keep saying this? Why would you want to remove a feature that so many people want just because you are too stubborn to simply shut it off? Man this thread is frustrating.

Honestly because if the behavior is to turn it off and leave it off...what spend time developing to add it for a select few when it exists already on another platform where it's welcomed

'...a select few'
There you go again, commenting and alienating an entire player group who wants text chat.

Don't take it personal but that comment is literally what ZOS shared. Sorry and don't get upset with us who are in support of keeping the game the was ZOS presented it

Uberkull

Yes, there has to be text chat in a MMO

Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

Either you have me on ignore or you just can't handle a dose of reality that I'm providing you.

We aren't asking for them to add whole new features or functionality here. That's the kicker. We are asking them the leave in the chat system that's already there. They decided to turn it off because they felt sitting on a couch with a keyboard wasn't what ZOS thinks is enjoyable. They removed a feature that existed based on their own choices, not player feedback.

What should have been done is leave text chat in for beta and get actual player feedback. If it was a negative experience in beta, based on player feedback, then pull it.

+9000

And I might add up until just before the beta text chat was in. Hell they even told a deaf player few months ago it was ... how's that for karma ..

Hi ESO. I have been looking forward to this game all year and can’t wait for it to become available on the PS4. I would like to know if Chatbox will be available on console versions, as it is on the PC? I am deaf myself so I would be relying on Chatbox to allow me to communicate with other people on the game.
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[–]zos_konk 27 points 3 months ago
Yes, you have the option of using the text chatbox on console as well. Furthermore, you can plug in a standard USB keyboard into your PS4 and use it to type, if you want.

The chat window collapses by default, but can be pinned to the HUD if you want.
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Yea....here it is from the AuA section on the forums. Scroll down to the chat box question, it's basically what you quoted above. http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/147743/ask-us-anything-all-the-q-as

NewBlacksmurf

No, voice chat is enough

Why would ZOS follow a predictable marketing plan on different platforms and expect different results.

Plan A caused them to drop the sub amongst other things.

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Naivefanboi

Yes, there has to be text chat in a MMO

uberkull wrote: »

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

fran369b14_ESO wrote: »

I dont get it either

Ever time a valid point for text chat is brought up the "x-bro's" come up with non-sense agruements as to why they don't any text chat at all.

Seems like all they want is a single player game with lobbies for dungeons, raids, & PvP

That isn't a MMO at all ....

[snip] [snip]

I don't really believe that, but blatant obfuscation of valid points on both sides is what it is. I'm sure there are console players who do not see why text is necessary, because they play every day all day without it. And I'm sure there are PC players who do not understand how you can play without a keyboard in front of you.

But there are actual, valid points, brought up in this post and many others, that show why it would be good and why it would be bad. In the end, all we as the playerbase are doing is expressing different arguments and hoping that ZOS sees them and sides with our own personal opinions.

For console, you still are comparing apples to oranges. Over the decades of playing console games, as you put it, you haven't had games that had 1000's of players in a single server potentially playing at the same time, in the same area. With these 'Mega Servers' that's a real possibility. So console players have no idea what's coming.

And the thing is, the common console player will discard the game after a month since they will feel that it's just another Destiny because the game 'feels' so solo. Finish the solo quest chain and I'm done. Craft a set over and over, good enough. Some might not even know about Guild traders and how to SELL their items, so they'll sell to NPCs and pile up gold for nothing. This is mainly because there is no text chat constantly giving life and education to the environment, a life that comes with the good and the bad that plagues text chat. But the nice thing is, I can turn it off if I get tired of it as I explained in earlier posts.

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awesome! this x1000

Uberkull

Yes, there has to be text chat in a MMO

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Alphashado wrote: »

lovESOng wrote: »

I am looking forward to immersive gameplay without WTS spam ☺

So strange how you can get this RIGHT NOW by simply closing the chat window. Why do people keep saying this? Why would you want to remove a feature that so many people want just because you are too stubborn to simply shut it off? Man this thread is frustrating.

Honestly because if the behavior is to turn it off and leave it off...what spend time developing to add it for a select few when it exists already on another platform where it's welcomed

'...a select few'
There you go again, commenting and alienating an entire player group who wants text chat.

Don't take it personal but that comment is literally what ZOS shared. Sorry and don't get upset with us who are in support of keeping the game the was ZOS presented it

Now you're making up more things. Your source for ZOS saying 'a select few' and the removal of the text chat being a marketing strategy.

If you have no source, then you are 'spinning it how you like'.

I'm getting tired of basically just arguing with you. The past three pages have just been you against everyone else.

NewBlacksmurf

No, voice chat is enough

Honest question.
How many of you have or currently work for a large corporation for over 5 years?

How many of you have worked in marketing or outside sales for a publicly known entity?

Mirra_Halfelven

Yes, there has to be text chat in a MMO

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Honest question.
How many of you have or currently work for a large corporation for over 5 years?

How many of you have worked in marketing or outside sales for a publicly known entity?

Oh so now we're down to "I know better than you" arguements ....

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NewBlacksmurf

No, voice chat is enough

Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Honest question.
How many of you have or currently work for a large corporation for over 5 years?

How many of you have worked in marketing or outside sales for a publicly known entity?

Oh so now we're down to "I know better than you" arguements ....

What is wrong with you.
I'm trying to understand the audience...it was not directed at either side of the argument.

I'm trying to have an intelligent conversation as the points I've shared make sense in those environments but may not outside of those.

That's my background so I thought to understand others as well

?????

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Cuyler

Yes, there has to be text chat in a MMO

uberkull wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Alphashado wrote: »

lovESOng wrote: »

I am looking forward to immersive gameplay without WTS spam ☺

So strange how you can get this RIGHT NOW by simply closing the chat window. Why do people keep saying this? Why would you want to remove a feature that so many people want just because you are too stubborn to simply shut it off? Man this thread is frustrating.

Honestly because if the behavior is to turn it off and leave it off...what spend time developing to add it for a select few when it exists already on another platform where it's welcomed

'...a select few'
There you go again, commenting and alienating an entire player group who wants text chat.

Don't take it personal but that comment is literally what ZOS shared. Sorry and don't get upset with us who are in support of keeping the game the was ZOS presented it

Now you're making up more things. Your source for ZOS saying 'a select few' and the removal of the text chat being a marketing strategy.

If you have no source, then you are 'spinning it how you like'.

I'm getting tired of basically just arguing with you. The past three pages have just been you against everyone else.

Yuup.

PKMN12

Yes, there has to be text chat in a MMO

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Honest question.
How many of you have or currently work for a large corporation for over 5 years?

How many of you have worked in marketing or outside sales for a publicly known entity?

Oh so now we're down to "I know better than you" arguements .... now you're just basicly trolling

What is wrong with you.
I'm trying to understand the audience...it was not directed at either side of the argument.

Trolling...cause I'm trying to have an intelligent conversation as the points I've shared make sense in those environments but may not outside of those.

That's my background so I thought to understand others as well

?????

does not matter what your ubackground is unless it has something to do with MMOs. CLEARLY, when the only MMO on console to not have text chat is hated, partially for that, should tell you, with no other arguments, text chat is something needed in MMO's

NewBlacksmurf

No, voice chat is enough

PKMN12 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Honest question.
How many of you have or currently work for a large corporation for over 5 years?

How many of you have worked in marketing or outside sales for a publicly known entity?

Oh so now we're down to "I know better than you" arguements .... now you're just basicly trolling

What is wrong with you.
I'm trying to understand the audience...it was not directed at either side of the argument.

Trolling...cause I'm trying to have an intelligent conversation as the points I've shared make sense in those environments but may not outside of those.

That's my background so I thought to understand others as well

?????

does not matter what your ubackground is unless it has something to do with MMOs. CLEARLY, when the only MMO on console to not have text chat is hated, partially for that, should tell you, with no other arguments, text chat is something needed in MMO's

You guys are really off base.
The basis of this topic is around communication archetypes.

Understand someone's background is THE MOST important part of having any discussion or argument

If you don't care to understand who you're talking to and what point of view or perspectives they are coming from then it's just a back n forth where each person is saying the same thing over and over again and the discussion can't progress

That is where we are now...so stepping back, it helps

Uberkull

Yes, there has to be text chat in a MMO

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Honest question.
How many of you have or currently work for a large corporation for over 5 years?

How many of you have worked in marketing or outside sales for a publicly known entity?

19 years in the IT industry working for two top 5 automotive corporations, a fortune 100 medical corporation, and one of the top 5 financial institutions in the world. I help run teams that build their websites and all the infrastructure that runs them. I also code in 10 different languages supporting those teams when needed.

We use betas, user focus groups, and QA to make key decisions on the product we provide to the customer. We don't make decisions just based on opinions of the development staff or the design teams.

You asked, there you go.

Naivefanboi

Yes, there has to be text chat in a MMO

speaking with your wallet will probably have more impact then these forums. maybe they could make it a crown store feature? ill spend crowns buy the chat logs back. that way only those who buy it can see it use it and zos makes money.lol.

Dixa

someone should get a pool started, guessing how many threads will pop up in the first day of console release complaining that spartaincheef2340909 keeps broadcasting britney spears songs at max volume in proximity chat for hours on end.


tee hee. console players.


if red dead redemption had a pc release, i would have abandoned them all 4 years ago.

NewBlacksmurf

No, voice chat is enough

uberkull wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Honest question.
How many of you have or currently work for a large corporation for over 5 years?

How many of you have worked in marketing or outside sales for a publicly known entity?

19 years in the IT industry working for two top 5 automotive corporations, a fortune 100 medical corporation, and one of the top 5 financial institutions in the world. I help run teams that build their websites and all the infrastructure that runs them. I also code in 10 different languages supporting those teams when needed.

We use betas, user focus groups, and QA to make key decisions on the product we provide to the customer. We don't make decisions just based on opinions of the development staff or the design teams.

You asked, there you go.

Thanks.
In your environments would it be safe to assume that your opinion aligns with those experiences?

I ask because that is where mine come from. Could it be that we differ in perspectives due to our backgrounds moreso than this idea and its implementation ?
Me:
Sales and Marketing for web based business since 2003
Entertainment and production work for NFL since 2010
Par time work with local PGA events "inside the ropes"
Sales and marketing with a large insurance firm for 48 states since 2007

Cuyler

Yes, there has to be text chat in a MMO

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

PKMN12 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Honest question.
How many of you have or currently work for a large corporation for over 5 years?

How many of you have worked in marketing or outside sales for a publicly known entity?

Oh so now we're down to "I know better than you" arguements .... now you're just basicly trolling

What is wrong with you.
I'm trying to understand the audience...it was not directed at either side of the argument.

Trolling...cause I'm trying to have an intelligent conversation as the points I've shared make sense in those environments but may not outside of those.

That's my background so I thought to understand others as well

?????

does not matter what your ubackground is unless it has something to do with MMOs. CLEARLY, when the only MMO on console to not have text chat is hated, partially for that, should tell you, with no other arguments, text chat is something needed in MMO's

You guys are really off base.
The basis of this topic is around communication archetypes.

Understand someone's background is THE MOST important part of having any discussion or argument

If you don't care to understand who you're talking to and what point of view or perspectives they are coming from then it's just a back n forth where each person is saying the same thing over and over again and the discussion can't progress

That is where we are now...so stepping back, it helps

While I have plenty of relevant experience, ultimately I'm just a guy who has no problems using a keyboard and controller while sitting on my couch playing. Does that count for anything?