STRONGEST CLASS IN PVP? (POLL)

Tonnopesce

SORCERER

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Yea the info is wrong. When ESO first came out it was Sorc then few month became DK a year later now Templars are "the class" and maybe in a month or so NB will be. But as of right now Templars are "the class" cause of there shield stacking, insta full health and of course radient destruction and the nirnhoned bug. Give it time every one be screaming nerf to NB very soon.

Actually the nirn bug was fixed to a point that is totally worthless now.
Atm dk magica suck while stamina are great and the sorcerers are overhall the best class except for the pokemon masters togglemancers.
Nb need to be skilled to be a good one while templars... meh, yes and no

Borders

Imho the problem with this type of poll is that it doesn't ask group play vs solo or roaming vs taking objectives.

Honestly most players will scan fr the class they feel is OP based on their definition of what "OP" is. Whether it be damage shields or insane dps they are running off what they feel is uncompetitive and never really answer what class is best for pvp.

SO in my opinion DK is the best pvp class overall and no I do not think it is OP. Why you ask?

Fist off PvP and PvE run hand in hand in this game with no hard separation so the most accepted class in PvE is likely (during the leveling process) to get you some of the quickest result on the PvP side.

Second it has access to mitigation, CC, strong healing, damage shields and decent dps in tanky builds. This bag of tricks makes a strong class for 1vX but not strong at running or kiting.

Third population. Whether you like it or not numbers wont lie. The most played class by a great deal is DK. Its is popular and I doubt in the results driven PvP anybody would run a class they are ineffective. So while obviously some people will be kings and queens with the NB Sorc and Temp the popularity of DK in PvP is unmistakable.

I think the real questions that should be asked are "What is your favorite PvP class?" and, "What is your favorite type of PvP?". Polling these questions will give you a better snapshot of what classes players enjoy playing and what types of play appeal to them.

Right now as I level I will likely finish my NB or Sorc first. Despite complaints about Sorcs running away truth is I like solo roaming with an escape option. GW2, ArcheAge, Aion, etc. I play what I like roaming solo stealth or speed. Some people feel this is OP and I have seen many nerfs to builds I play but I end up running the same type of build consistently. Sieging a castle is fun for some running in a group roaming for others but I find solo roaming and speed the most fun.

Rook_Master

DRAGONKNIGHT

DK has been the flavor of the game for over a year now.

Just because scales only reflects 4 doesn't mean DKs don't still reign supreme.

Durham

SORCERER

deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »

2H DK's are wicked strong atm. Back to back wrecking blow and GDB+rally is tight. Shield stacking sorcs are pretty hard to beat as well. They can just stack shields and never see their HP pool diminish if they do it right. The worst part about sorcs is the exploit some are using that ZoS apparently doesn't care about fixing. Attacks do no damage to their shields and they can practically live forever. [snip] is a great example. Dozens have reported him and nothing has been done. I am pretty sure no one at ZoS actually reads bug reports anymore.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Naming & Shaming]

Green dragon blood seriously ????
Heals at most 9k if you have 1 health and 27k health... But most of the time it heals me for 5 to 6k because if you let your health drop below 30% you are dead.......and it costs 4000 magicka ... GDB is crap with a twohanded stamina build....Use your shields....

teladoy

DRAGONKNIGHT

I feel me God with my DK compare with my other classes.

timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO

DRAGONKNIGHT

rileynotzb14_ESO wrote: »

Which class is strongest when it comes to PvP?

1, Sorc not because they are that strong but the are mobile, isane bust dps and they have great shield protection use. amd the magican not will be an issue.

2. DK i the strongest in taking the damge the have instant and more and less unlimited cc, there dps are strong as normal but fare stronger on vamps, they have insane /strong and almost unlimited selfheal, they have gap closer, for range and close combat, the ability to counter any attacks dose half there job. and in the long run there combat ability are all around.

3. Temp. are a semple combat setup, but i feel as the NB that the templar to have to work using there magican and stanima limit to win a fight. great self heals and protection, but easy to burn out of magicka and stamina.

SafiyerAmitora

DRAGONKNIGHT

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

Atm dk magica suck...

Ahem, good sir. I played magicka dk pre-1.6, and when I got on post-1.6, I just had to modify a few things for my build (while staying magicka), and it works as well, or better, now than it did pre-1.6. True, I took off a couple offensive abilities for some defensive ones (only attacks are talons, whip, and caltrops; everything else is self-heals and buffs), but my dk was always intended as a tank, not a dps. Even though tanking is kinda useless in PvP, it isn't while I'm messing with the enemy's backlines and tanking what they're throwing at me. I can tank massive amounts of dmg for quite a while before dying (if at all, depending on numbers and skill on either side). I'm just as powerful, or more so, than I was in 1.5. Magicka dk's don't suck, especially if they're built right. We're not a dead race yet.

Velcon

All.

Koopa

TEMPLAR

Went with the Templar. Vamp bane into charge into sweep into strikes into jesus beam and things die. Plus the built in heals and a few mitigation abilities makes them very strong. Able to 1v2 1v3 seen a few 1v4 more then that and you'll likely need help, still very strong.

Tonnopesce

SORCERER

SafiyerAmitora wrote: »

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

Atm dk magica suck...

Ahem, good sir. I played magicka dk pre-1.6, and when I got on post-1.6, I just had to modify a few things for my build (while staying magicka), and it works as well, or better, now than it did pre-1.6. True, I took off a couple offensive abilities for some defensive ones (only attacks are talons, whip, and caltrops; everything else is self-heals and buffs), but my dk was always intended as a tank, not a dps. Even though tanking is kinda useless in PvP, it isn't while I'm messing with the enemy's backlines and tanking what they're throwing at me. I can tank massive amounts of dmg for quite a while before dying (if at all, depending on numbers and skill on either side). I'm just as powerful, or more so, than I was in 1.5. Magicka dk's don't suck, especially if they're built right. We're not a dead race yet.

Let me refrase " Light armor magika dk suck"
I also have a DK and you know, to gain a well rounded magika dk who does a lot of damage and can survive in the 1vsX fights for a decent amount of time is quite hard, told this i'm having a lot of fun in 1.6 with my DK while i've just abandoned him in 1.5 and 1.4 the only bad pov in this, is that you have to use a resto staff to gain the "rally like" buff with mutagen and to have a decent panic button with healing ward and i really hate archers now that i'm made of paper...

monkeymystic

SORCERER

Sorcerer.. The other votes belongs to sorc players

Rhakon

SORCERER

sorcs vote DK...

Sorc(easy 2 play, easy to skill,easy to gear, easy to win)
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DK (Magica dk is dead, have some good Tanky builds, Stam DK is strong but not op)
NB(Feels The same as DK, but more dirty builds are possible)
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Templar (Bugged/Unplayable-Global cooldowns and slow reacting skills and animations, too predictable.)

SafiyerAmitora

DRAGONKNIGHT

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

SafiyerAmitora wrote: »

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

Atm dk magica suck...

Ahem, good sir. I played magicka dk pre-1.6, and when I got on post-1.6, I just had to modify a few things for my build (while staying magicka), and it works as well, or better, now than it did pre-1.6. True, I took off a couple offensive abilities for some defensive ones (only attacks are talons, whip, and caltrops; everything else is self-heals and buffs), but my dk was always intended as a tank, not a dps. Even though tanking is kinda useless in PvP, it isn't while I'm messing with the enemy's backlines and tanking what they're throwing at me. I can tank massive amounts of dmg for quite a while before dying (if at all, depending on numbers and skill on either side). I'm just as powerful, or more so, than I was in 1.5. Magicka dk's don't suck, especially if they're built right. We're not a dead race yet.

Let me refrase " Light armor magika dk suck"
I also have a DK and you know, to gain a well rounded magika dk who does a lot of damage and can survive in the 1vsX fights for a decent amount of time is quite hard, told this i'm having a lot of fun in 1.6 with my DK while i've just abandoned him in 1.5 and 1.4 the only bad pov in this, is that you have to use a resto staff to gain the "rally like" buff with mutagen and to have a decent panic button with healing ward and i really hate archers now that i'm made of paper...

Okay, yeah. That, I can understand.

I wanted to PvP in heavy armor in 1.5, but since it was hard on resources, I had to go light. Thankfully, that's changed (sort of), so I can now use heavy and do quite well resource-wise. That's not to say that I'm glad light armor got nerfed or anything (because I'm seriously not). I'm just saying that I'm glad heavy's more viable now.

As a tank, I prefer to utilize a resto staff on my off-bar, but with light armored dps, yeah, it'd be more of a necessary evil.

SafiyerAmitora

DRAGONKNIGHT

monkeymystic wrote: »

Sorcerer.. The other votes belongs to sorc players

Rhakon wrote: »

sorcs vote DK...

Sorc(easy 2 play, easy to skill,easy to gear, easy to win)
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DK (Magica dk is dead, have some good Tanky builds, Stam DK is strong but not op)

I play a dk and I chose dk. I only have 1 Sorc, and she's only v1. IMO, Sorcs are one of the hardest classes to play. I die all the time on my Sorc, even in PvE at things my lvl. Yes, it's a l2p issue, BUT, like I just said, Sorcs are one of the hardest classes to play, for me.

And magicka dk is not dead. There's definitely tank builds, there's still dps builds, and I've been seeing more and more healer builds spring up. We're nowhere near being a dead race yet, so don't go acting like we are.

Spangla

SORCERER

DK is not at the bottom.

I felt prior to 1.6 that if you had removed dk's from the game the other 3 class's were pretty evenly matched. Now I feel that if you remove sorcs the others are evenly matched.

Sorc is clearly the most powerful class.

It is so obvious.

The end

SafiyerAmitora

DRAGONKNIGHT

Spangla wrote: »

Sorc is clearly the most powerful class.

It is so obvious.

Uhh...

No. Just no.

yotanut

SORCERER

SafiyerAmitora wrote: »

monkeymystic wrote: »

Sorcerer.. The other votes belongs to sorc players

Rhakon wrote: »

sorcs vote DK...

Sorc(easy 2 play, easy to skill,easy to gear, easy to win)
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DK (Magica dk is dead, have some good Tanky builds, Stam DK is strong but not op)

I play a dk and I chose dk. I only have 1 Sorc, and she's only v1. IMO, Sorcs are one of the hardest classes to play. I die all the time on my Sorc, even in PvE at things my lvl. Yes, it's a l2p issue, BUT, like I just said, Sorcs are one of the hardest classes to play, for me.

And magicka dk is not dead. There's definitely tank builds, there's still dps builds, and I've been seeing more and more healer builds spring up. We're nowhere near being a dead race yet, so don't go acting like we are.

How about we read the subject of the post, before you start crying about how hard a sorc is to play in PVE. You never once mentioned PVP. I would like to see you take down a well played sorc with all the shield stacking and bolt escape spam with your DK.

Subject: STRONGEST CLASS IN PVP?

SafiyerAmitora

DRAGONKNIGHT

yotanut wrote: »

SafiyerAmitora wrote: »

monkeymystic wrote: »

Sorcerer.. The other votes belongs to sorc players

Rhakon wrote: »

sorcs vote DK...

Sorc(easy 2 play, easy to skill,easy to gear, easy to win)
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DK (Magica dk is dead, have some good Tanky builds, Stam DK is strong but not op)

I play a dk and I chose dk. I only have 1 Sorc, and she's only v1. IMO, Sorcs are one of the hardest classes to play. I die all the time on my Sorc, even in PvE at things my lvl. Yes, it's a l2p issue, BUT, like I just said, Sorcs are one of the hardest classes to play, for me.

And magicka dk is not dead. There's definitely tank builds, there's still dps builds, and I've been seeing more and more healer builds spring up. We're nowhere near being a dead race yet, so don't go acting like we are.

How about we read the subject of the post, before you start crying about how hard a sorc is to play in PVE. You never once mentioned PVP. I would like to see you take down a well played sorc with all the shield stacking and bolt escape spam with your DK.

Subject: STRONGEST CLASS IN PVP?

I said "even in", implying that I have PvPed with my Sorc. I mentioned PvE strictly to point out that since normal PvE is pretty much child's play, if I'm dying a lot there, then I really suck with a Sorc. And I said it was a difficult class to play for me.

Ahem. No, I could never take down a good Sorc. Why? My dk is strictly tank-only. The only attacks I have on my bars are talons, whip, and caltrops. Everything else is self-heals and buffs. There's no way I'm going to defeat a good Sorc like that. I'm not built to kill anybody. I'll be surprised if I do. But what I am built to do? Screw with the healers and ranged dps at the backlines while tanking all the meteors, soul assaults, Templar death beams, etc that get thrown at me.

yotanut

SORCERER

@SafiyerAmitora - Regardless if you are a dps/tank/healer spec of any class... good luck trying to take down a sorc stacking shields and spamming bolt escape. The only way to take them down is to zerg with 10+ players. That is ridiculous.

SafiyerAmitora

DRAGONKNIGHT

yotanut wrote: »

@SafiyerAmitora - Regardless if you are a dps/tank/healer spec of any class... good luck trying to take down a sorc stacking shields and spamming bolt escape. The only way to take them down is to zerg with 10+ players. That is ridiculous.

10+? Only way? No. Gap-closers, running them out of stam, CCs... There are counters to the shield stacking and BE spam, and it won't take a zerg to kill them all the time, or even most of the time.

Also, if it takes 10+ players to kill 1 Sorc, then those players probably suck... Or the Sorc could be exploiting, but that's a different story.

And take a look from the Sorc's PoV: if you were getting chased by a mob of 10+ players, wouldn't you want to shield up and bolt out of there as fast as possible? Okay, maybe you may or may not, but some of the Sorcs just want to get out of there and survive. Then again, they might want to use that to their advantage by taking the enemy down at range while they're strung out in a line behind them because they decided to chase the bolting Sorc...

Rule #1: Never chase the bolting Sorc.

Curragraigue

DRAGONKNIGHT

Until the other classes get a flappy flappy equivalent it will always be DK for me. Too many snipers in the game and the shortened cc immunity on immovable has not helped.

Kublakan

SORCERER

The emperor is the strongest.

WraithAzraiel

NIGHTBLADE

Endurance wrote: »

i dont pvp in this game because its a joke, but if it were guild wars 2 i'd say 2h warrior

.....I don't even.....

dafox187

SORCERER

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Standard, GDB, reflect everything...

Then again, Begezus Beams to the face still hit pretty hard.

dafox187 wrote: »

sorcerer = mage
mage = fireball
fireball = 3rd degree burns from a ranged weapon
you can get brutally murdered by us with fire from a long distance archers are my second by the way

@dafox187

Sorc = would like to be a mage
mage != fireball
destro staff = fireball

The one does not automatically mean the other.

It's usually not about the class so much as it is about the combo.

isnt that exactly what i was talking about

Laggus

TEMPLAR

I say Templars and I say they should be renamed "Radiant Destructors".

k2blader

Durham wrote: »

deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »

2H DK's are wicked strong atm. Back to back wrecking blow and GDB+rally is tight. Shield stacking sorcs are pretty hard to beat as well. They can just stack shields and never see their HP pool diminish if they do it right. The worst part about sorcs is the exploit some are using that ZoS apparently doesn't care about fixing. Attacks do no damage to their shields and they can practically live forever. [snip] is a great example. Dozens have reported him and nothing has been done. I am pretty sure no one at ZoS actually reads bug reports anymore.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Naming & Shaming]

Green dragon blood seriously ????
Heals at most 9k if you have 1 health and 27k health... But most of the time it heals me for 5 to 6k because if you let your health drop below 30% you are dead.......and it costs 4000 magicka ... GDB is crap with a twohanded stamina build....Use your shields....

Wow, so now if you let your health drop below 30% you die-- whereas no one else ever does? If you want more heal learn to resto staff.

noobfury

SORCERER

The answer is all of them.

A class is only as good as the person playing it.

Agree with Curragraigue also as far as the sniping is concerned.

Lava_Croft

SORCERER

Anyone still voting Dragon Knight probably hasn't logged in since 1.6.

deepseamk20b14_ESO

SORCERER

deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »

2H DK's are wicked strong atm. Back to back wrecking blow and GDB+rally is tight. Shield stacking sorcs are pretty hard to beat as well. They can just stack shields and never see their HP pool diminish if they do it right. The worst part about sorcs is the exploit some are using that ZoS apparently doesn't care about fixing. Attacks do no damage to their shields and they can practically live forever. [snip] is a great example. Dozens have reported him and nothing has been done. I am pretty sure no one at ZoS actually reads bug reports anymore.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Naming & Shaming]

Lol ZoS took his name out! Hey ZoS, I'm glad your terms and conditions support known cheaters and exploiters! I know you have at least 100 reports in game about this dude, but you've done nothing, but god forbid I, and others, name him in the forums since you people won't do anything about it when he is reported o er and over. Gfy.

Orchish

SORCERER

Nivzruo_ESO wrote: »

How the F are DKs at the top? They are at the bottom.

Band wagon is still rolling from release when they were OP back then. It isn't DKs that stand out to me anymore in PvP that's for sure. Certain Sorc players are almost god like.

I do wonder if half the people who vote are actually playing PvP.