Remove hardened ward

nothing2591

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

Huckdabuck

No

eventide03b14a_ESO

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

If you are going to make a serious thread like this you should post actual numbers and statics other than relying on hyperbole.

SurprisedFour91

well i can see another QQ on Sorcs here

Panda244

Not even a Sorcerer and I vote....

DisgracefulMind

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

It does NOT shield for 100% HP.

Here is mine:



This is a 48.3% shield. Nowhere near a 100% one. That 9,927 damage shield can be blown off with one wrecking blow, crit. charge, snipe, etc. etc.

Please don't post about things you obviously know nothing about.

DisgracefulMind

SurprisedFour91 wrote: »

well i can see another QQ on Sorcs here

Uren! It's everywhere! EVERYWHERE!!!! "zomg i can't kill dis player in one shot *rage* nerf dem nao plz!"

DeLindsay

No, and delete this thread for even asking such a stupid request.

SurprisedFour91

#PlzStopTheHate

AltusVenifus

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

It does NOT shield for 100% HP.

Here is mine:



This is a 48.3% shield. Nowhere near a 100% one. That 9,927 damage shield can be blown off with one wrecking blow, crit. charge, snipe, etc. etc.

Please don't post about things you obviously know nothing about.

no it can't. 9927, would break only on a crit. Basically, lethal arrow crit and wrecking blow crit. My 2400 weapon damage for lethal arrow is 4-8k depending on distance and armor, wrecking blow 7-8 without crit. Basically the skill is trading 1 skill push for 2 offensive skills (non crit) right now on a pure weapon damage build.

Granted my crits hit for 12-13k so that would break it, but only coming out of stealth.

Tankqull

its not 100% its actually nearly 9000! (%) or sth like that

Wreuntzylla

AltusVenifus wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

It does NOT shield for 100% HP.

Here is mine:



This is a 48.3% shield. Nowhere near a 100% one. That 9,927 damage shield can be blown off with one wrecking blow, crit. charge, snipe, etc. etc.

Please don't post about things you obviously know nothing about.

no it can't. 9927, would break only on a crit. Basically, lethal arrow crit and wrecking blow crit. My 2400 weapon damage for lethal arrow is 5-7k, wrecking blow, 7-8 without crit. Basically the skill is trading 1 skill for 2 or 3 offensive skills (non crit) right now on a pure weapon damage build.

Do mine eyes deceive me or does the post you quoted say "crit" without having been edited?

AltusVenifus

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

AltusVenifus wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

It does NOT shield for 100% HP.

Here is mine:



This is a 48.3% shield. Nowhere near a 100% one. That 9,927 damage shield can be blown off with one wrecking blow, crit. charge, snipe, etc. etc.

Please don't post about things you obviously know nothing about.

no it can't. 9927, would break only on a crit. Basically, lethal arrow crit and wrecking blow crit. My 2400 weapon damage for lethal arrow is 5-7k, wrecking blow, 7-8 without crit. Basically the skill is trading 1 skill for 2 or 3 offensive skills (non crit) right now on a pure weapon damage build.

Do mine eyes deceive me or does the post you quoted say "crit" without having been edited?

Reading is tough. It says critical charge (which is a skill name)... but either way that doesn't hit for anywhere near 10k, so it is still wrong.

AriBoh

Don't remove it, but for everyone else not spamming wrecking going through 9-14k of shields only for the sorc to pop it back up to full in a single press is kinda ridiculous.

Derra

AltusVenifus wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

It does NOT shield for 100% HP.

Here is mine:



This is a 48.3% shield. Nowhere near a 100% one. That 9,927 damage shield can be blown off with one wrecking blow, crit. charge, snipe, etc. etc.

Please don't post about things you obviously know nothing about.

no it can't. 9927, would break only on a crit. Basically, lethal arrow crit and wrecking blow crit. My 2400 weapon damage for lethal arrow is 4-8k depending on distance and armor, wrecking blow 7-8 without crit. Basically the skill is trading 1 skill push for 2 offensive skills (non crit) right now on a pure weapon damage build.

Granted my crits hit for 12-13k so that would break it, but only coming out of stealth.

I´ve bolded the important part. 2400 weapon dmg with 2.0 is like nothing. You won´t see a caster with warlock seducer complaining that they don´t do dmg. You´re not built to break it in one blow.

DisgracefulMind

AltusVenifus wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

It does NOT shield for 100% HP.

Here is mine:



This is a 48.3% shield. Nowhere near a 100% one. That 9,927 damage shield can be blown off with one wrecking blow, crit. charge, snipe, etc. etc.

Please don't post about things you obviously know nothing about.

no it can't. 9927, would break only on a crit. Basically, lethal arrow crit and wrecking blow crit. My 2400 weapon damage for lethal arrow is 5-7k, wrecking blow, 7-8 without crit. Basically the skill is trading 1 skill for 2 or 3 offensive skills (non crit) right now on a pure weapon damage build.

My shield gets knocked off by arrows and two-handed attacks in one go all the time. If not one go, it's off by the next light attack that's weaved in. I don't claim to be an expert on stamina builds, but I do know how to play magicka builds, and seeing as I play my Sorc often enough, I can assure you my shield falls very fast. I'm just good at refreshing it and switching to offensive immediately to get the heat off of my magicka pool.

Now let's compare shields between a magicka DK and a magicka Sorcerer:

Here is my magicka DK with only Ingeous Shield on:



That's a 30% shield, and gives a 30% increase to healing, when used correctly, I can restore most if not all my HP. So I gladly take the lesser shield for that benefit. I can also pop a healing ward on my DK, just like my Sorc, if I feel the need for it, giving me even bigger shields for people to have to chop through.

Igneous Shield combined with Harness:



Now Sorcerer Harness with Hardened Ward:



I believe when people see a Sorc with an almost 100% shield it is due to the combination of Harness Magicka and Hardened Ward.

Also, Hardened Ward adds 33% more, which is a good trade off from DK to Sorc because DK gives you 30% increased healing.

Shields are strong for any class, period. The point of me showing all of this is that. If you don't like damage shields, you're playing the wrong game.

Ultimately, I don't know what the massive crying about is from people about Hardened Ward. Magicka builds are going to have higher damage shields because most run light armor for full potential of their builds. Defensive mechanisms are available to all classes. If you haven't figured them out, or how to get around them, then I'm not sure anyone can help you.

DisgracefulMind

Derra wrote: »

AltusVenifus wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

It does NOT shield for 100% HP.

Here is mine:



This is a 48.3% shield. Nowhere near a 100% one. That 9,927 damage shield can be blown off with one wrecking blow, crit. charge, snipe, etc. etc.

Please don't post about things you obviously know nothing about.

no it can't. 9927, would break only on a crit. Basically, lethal arrow crit and wrecking blow crit. My 2400 weapon damage for lethal arrow is 4-8k depending on distance and armor, wrecking blow 7-8 without crit. Basically the skill is trading 1 skill push for 2 offensive skills (non crit) right now on a pure weapon damage build.

Granted my crits hit for 12-13k so that would break it, but only coming out of stealth.

I´ve bolded the important part. 2400 weapon dmg with 2.0 is like nothing. You won´t see a caster with warlock seducer complaining that they don´t do dmg. You´re not built to break it in one blow.

Your problem is stacking damage then, and not relying on sustain. I rely on sustain, I don't stack damage. I kill people because my resource management is on point. It goes for both my magicka DK and my magicka Sorc. So damn right I can refresh my shields and WILL refresh them, because I know how to sustain and I don't care about burst.

Tankqull

AltusVenifus wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

It does NOT shield for 100% HP.

Here is mine:



This is a 48.3% shield. Nowhere near a 100% one. That 9,927 damage shield can be blown off with one wrecking blow, crit. charge, snipe, etc. etc.

Please don't post about things you obviously know nothing about.

no it can't. 9927, would break only on a crit. Basically, lethal arrow crit and wrecking blow crit. My 2400 weapon damage for lethal arrow is 4-8k depending on distance and armor, wrecking blow 7-8 without crit. Basically the skill is trading 1 skill push for 2 offensive skills (non crit) right now on a pure weapon damage build.

Granted my crits hit for 12-13k so that would break it, but only coming out of stealth.

the dmg i´m eating on my sorc is speakin a different language...

AltusVenifus

Derra wrote: »

AltusVenifus wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

It does NOT shield for 100% HP.

Here is mine:



This is a 48.3% shield. Nowhere near a 100% one. That 9,927 damage shield can be blown off with one wrecking blow, crit. charge, snipe, etc. etc.

Please don't post about things you obviously know nothing about.

no it can't. 9927, would break only on a crit. Basically, lethal arrow crit and wrecking blow crit. My 2400 weapon damage for lethal arrow is 4-8k depending on distance and armor, wrecking blow 7-8 without crit. Basically the skill is trading 1 skill push for 2 offensive skills (non crit) right now on a pure weapon damage build.

Granted my crits hit for 12-13k so that would break it, but only coming out of stealth.

I´ve bolded the important part. 2400 weapon dmg with 2.0 is like nothing. You won´t see a caster with warlock seducer complaining that they don´t do dmg. You´re not built to break it in one blow.

Not sure I follow, I have 2500 weapon power, all yellow gear (huntings + ashen grip), all yellow weapon damage enchants and shadow rings with 28k stamina. I could get it slightly higher, with some of the uber pve gear, but I would be willing to bet, my build is in the top 25% of weapon power. My lethal arrow is supposed to hit for 8800 on the tool tip, but in PVP it hits for 4-8k depending on distance, etc.

How would I get it higher?

Wahee

Tankqull wrote: »

AltusVenifus wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

It does NOT shield for 100% HP.

Here is mine:



This is a 48.3% shield. Nowhere near a 100% one. That 9,927 damage shield can be blown off with one wrecking blow, crit. charge, snipe, etc. etc.

Please don't post about things you obviously know nothing about.

no it can't. 9927, would break only on a crit. Basically, lethal arrow crit and wrecking blow crit. My 2400 weapon damage for lethal arrow is 4-8k depending on distance and armor, wrecking blow 7-8 without crit. Basically the skill is trading 1 skill push for 2 offensive skills (non crit) right now on a pure weapon damage build.

Granted my crits hit for 12-13k so that would break it, but only coming out of stealth.

the dmg i´m eating on my sorc is speakin a different language...

I'd like the be the one to point out that you can't crit dmg shields. All this talk of breaking shields in one hit just isn't true. The highest base (tooltip) damage you could see might be a 10k wrecking blow from a full glass cannon. Most single damage shields take 2-3 heavy hits to break in normal fighting.

Tankqull

Wahee wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

AltusVenifus wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

It does NOT shield for 100% HP.

Here is mine:



This is a 48.3% shield. Nowhere near a 100% one. That 9,927 damage shield can be blown off with one wrecking blow, crit. charge, snipe, etc. etc.

Please don't post about things you obviously know nothing about.

no it can't. 9927, would break only on a crit. Basically, lethal arrow crit and wrecking blow crit. My 2400 weapon damage for lethal arrow is 4-8k depending on distance and armor, wrecking blow 7-8 without crit. Basically the skill is trading 1 skill push for 2 offensive skills (non crit) right now on a pure weapon damage build.

Granted my crits hit for 12-13k so that would break it, but only coming out of stealth.

the dmg i´m eating on my sorc is speakin a different language...

I'd like the be the one to point out that you can't crit dmg shields. All this talk of breaking shields in one hit just isn't true. The highest base (tooltip) damage you could see might be a 10k wrecking blow from a full glass cannon. Most single damage shields take 2-3 heavy hits to break in normal fighting.

well a 15k crit is a 10k base hit and the last time i´ve checked it 10k> 9k.
a 17k crit is nearly a 12k basehit. and aswell if i´m not wrong 12k is > 9k
in other words shields are constantly hit by attacks depleting them in one go the only exclusion from this is a shield accessable by everybody.

Derra

AltusVenifus wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

AltusVenifus wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

It does NOT shield for 100% HP.

Here is mine:



This is a 48.3% shield. Nowhere near a 100% one. That 9,927 damage shield can be blown off with one wrecking blow, crit. charge, snipe, etc. etc.

Please don't post about things you obviously know nothing about.

no it can't. 9927, would break only on a crit. Basically, lethal arrow crit and wrecking blow crit. My 2400 weapon damage for lethal arrow is 4-8k depending on distance and armor, wrecking blow 7-8 without crit. Basically the skill is trading 1 skill push for 2 offensive skills (non crit) right now on a pure weapon damage build.

Granted my crits hit for 12-13k so that would break it, but only coming out of stealth.

I´ve bolded the important part. 2400 weapon dmg with 2.0 is like nothing. You won´t see a caster with warlock seducer complaining that they don´t do dmg. You´re not built to break it in one blow.

Not sure I follow, I have 2500 weapon power, all yellow gear (huntings + ashen grip), all yellow weapon damage enchants and shadow rings with 28k stamina. I could get it slightly higher, with some of the uber pve gear, but I would be willing to bet, my build is in the top 25% of weapon power. My lethal arrow is supposed to hit for 8800 on the tool tip, but in PVP it hits for 4-8k depending on distance, etc.

How would I get it higher?

8800 tooltip is an 8800 dmg hit on a shield. Combine that with a weaved light attack and you´ve done more dmg in 1 second than the sorc can shield for.

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

AltusVenifus wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

It does NOT shield for 100% HP.

Here is mine:



This is a 48.3% shield. Nowhere near a 100% one. That 9,927 damage shield can be blown off with one wrecking blow, crit. charge, snipe, etc. etc.

Please don't post about things you obviously know nothing about.

no it can't. 9927, would break only on a crit. Basically, lethal arrow crit and wrecking blow crit. My 2400 weapon damage for lethal arrow is 4-8k depending on distance and armor, wrecking blow 7-8 without crit. Basically the skill is trading 1 skill push for 2 offensive skills (non crit) right now on a pure weapon damage build.

Granted my crits hit for 12-13k so that would break it, but only coming out of stealth.

I´ve bolded the important part. 2400 weapon dmg with 2.0 is like nothing. You won´t see a caster with warlock seducer complaining that they don´t do dmg. You´re not built to break it in one blow.

Your problem is stacking damage then, and not relying on sustain. I rely on sustain, I don't stack damage. I kill people because my resource management is on point. It goes for both my magicka DK and my magicka Sorc. So damn right I can refresh my shields and WILL refresh them, because I know how to sustain and I don't care about burst.

I´m not sure i can follow you here? I have no problem? I´ve only explained that a build with 2400 weapon dmg (i assumed buffed) is not really top notch in 2.0 as you can achieve up to 4k.

On a sidenote: In high level duels i can´t see sustain low dmg builds beat high burst builds as long as heavy attacks can´t be interrupted. But thats just a personal opinion.
Also building on sustain is not really about resource management. You spam you opponent to death bc you can just throw more things at them :P

DisgracefulMind

Derra wrote: »

AltusVenifus wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

AltusVenifus wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

It does NOT shield for 100% HP.

Here is mine:



This is a 48.3% shield. Nowhere near a 100% one. That 9,927 damage shield can be blown off with one wrecking blow, crit. charge, snipe, etc. etc.

Please don't post about things you obviously know nothing about.

no it can't. 9927, would break only on a crit. Basically, lethal arrow crit and wrecking blow crit. My 2400 weapon damage for lethal arrow is 4-8k depending on distance and armor, wrecking blow 7-8 without crit. Basically the skill is trading 1 skill push for 2 offensive skills (non crit) right now on a pure weapon damage build.

Granted my crits hit for 12-13k so that would break it, but only coming out of stealth.

I´ve bolded the important part. 2400 weapon dmg with 2.0 is like nothing. You won´t see a caster with warlock seducer complaining that they don´t do dmg. You´re not built to break it in one blow.

Not sure I follow, I have 2500 weapon power, all yellow gear (huntings + ashen grip), all yellow weapon damage enchants and shadow rings with 28k stamina. I could get it slightly higher, with some of the uber pve gear, but I would be willing to bet, my build is in the top 25% of weapon power. My lethal arrow is supposed to hit for 8800 on the tool tip, but in PVP it hits for 4-8k depending on distance, etc.

How would I get it higher?

8800 tooltip is an 8800 dmg hit on a shield. Combine that with a weaved light attack and you´ve done more dmg in 1 second than the sorc can shield for.

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

AltusVenifus wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

It does NOT shield for 100% HP.

Here is mine:



This is a 48.3% shield. Nowhere near a 100% one. That 9,927 damage shield can be blown off with one wrecking blow, crit. charge, snipe, etc. etc.

Please don't post about things you obviously know nothing about.

no it can't. 9927, would break only on a crit. Basically, lethal arrow crit and wrecking blow crit. My 2400 weapon damage for lethal arrow is 4-8k depending on distance and armor, wrecking blow 7-8 without crit. Basically the skill is trading 1 skill push for 2 offensive skills (non crit) right now on a pure weapon damage build.

Granted my crits hit for 12-13k so that would break it, but only coming out of stealth.

I´ve bolded the important part. 2400 weapon dmg with 2.0 is like nothing. You won´t see a caster with warlock seducer complaining that they don´t do dmg. You´re not built to break it in one blow.

Your problem is stacking damage then, and not relying on sustain. I rely on sustain, I don't stack damage. I kill people because my resource management is on point. It goes for both my magicka DK and my magicka Sorc. So damn right I can refresh my shields and WILL refresh them, because I know how to sustain and I don't care about burst.

I´m not sure i can follow you here? I have no problem? I´ve only explained that a build with 2400 weapon dmg (i assumed buffed) is not really top notch in 2.0 as you can achieve up to 4k.

On a sidenote: In high level duels i can´t see sustain low dmg builds beat high burst builds as long as heavy attacks can´t be interrupted. But thats just a personal opinion.
Also building on sustain is not really about resource management. You spam you opponent to death bc you can just throw more things at them :P

I wasn't directing this at you, actually, was directing it at the other poster.

My build isn't low damage, I do have damage, however, I'm not a one-shot-burst-damage player. I'd prefer to live as long as possible over being able to kill one person and then die. As you can see I run nothing in stamina, I do have to be selective at resource management, therefore knowing how to sustain myself through a fight.

DisgracefulMind

Wahee wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

AltusVenifus wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

It does NOT shield for 100% HP.

Here is mine:



This is a 48.3% shield. Nowhere near a 100% one. That 9,927 damage shield can be blown off with one wrecking blow, crit. charge, snipe, etc. etc.

Please don't post about things you obviously know nothing about.

no it can't. 9927, would break only on a crit. Basically, lethal arrow crit and wrecking blow crit. My 2400 weapon damage for lethal arrow is 4-8k depending on distance and armor, wrecking blow 7-8 without crit. Basically the skill is trading 1 skill push for 2 offensive skills (non crit) right now on a pure weapon damage build.

Granted my crits hit for 12-13k so that would break it, but only coming out of stealth.

the dmg i´m eating on my sorc is speakin a different language...

I'd like the be the one to point out that you can't crit dmg shields. All this talk of breaking shields in one hit just isn't true. The highest base (tooltip) damage you could see might be a 10k wrecking blow from a full glass cannon. Most single damage shields take 2-3 heavy hits to break in normal fighting.

Yes, I'm sure everyone here who uses shields knows that they can't be crit. However, they CAN and ARE taken out in one hit often. my damage shield isn't 10k on my sorc, so that wrecking blow will take my shield out, it happens all the time.

AltusVenifus

Tankqull wrote: »

AltusVenifus wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

It does NOT shield for 100% HP.

Here is mine:



This is a 48.3% shield. Nowhere near a 100% one. That 9,927 damage shield can be blown off with one wrecking blow, crit. charge, snipe, etc. etc.

Please don't post about things you obviously know nothing about.

no it can't. 9927, would break only on a crit. Basically, lethal arrow crit and wrecking blow crit. My 2400 weapon damage for lethal arrow is 4-8k depending on distance and armor, wrecking blow 7-8 without crit. Basically the skill is trading 1 skill push for 2 offensive skills (non crit) right now on a pure weapon damage build.

Granted my crits hit for 12-13k so that would break it, but only coming out of stealth.

the dmg i´m eating on my sorc is speakin a different language...

No that is a great representation!

The crits are hitting you for 17 and 15k (that is a crit damage build and higher then mine). The normal attacks are hitting u for 1 to 6k. All i'm saying is unless you get crit'ed the player hitting u needs to hit you 3-4 with abilities to break your shield. 3-4 abilities to break a shield, that u can replace in one button hit. I will add that heavy attack crit, will apparently also bust a shield in one shot, good to know 8).

Also, I'm not sure, but I heard that shields negate crit not sure if that is true.

DisgracefulMind

AltusVenifus wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

AltusVenifus wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

It does NOT shield for 100% HP.

Here is mine:



This is a 48.3% shield. Nowhere near a 100% one. That 9,927 damage shield can be blown off with one wrecking blow, crit. charge, snipe, etc. etc.

Please don't post about things you obviously know nothing about.

no it can't. 9927, would break only on a crit. Basically, lethal arrow crit and wrecking blow crit. My 2400 weapon damage for lethal arrow is 4-8k depending on distance and armor, wrecking blow 7-8 without crit. Basically the skill is trading 1 skill push for 2 offensive skills (non crit) right now on a pure weapon damage build.

Granted my crits hit for 12-13k so that would break it, but only coming out of stealth.

the dmg i´m eating on my sorc is speakin a different language...

No that is a great representation!

The crits are hitting you for 17 and 15k (that is a crit damage build and higher then mine). The normal attacks are hitting u for 1 to 6k. All i'm saying is unless you get crit'ed the player hitting u needs to hit you 3-4 with abilities to break your shield. 3-4 abilities to break a shield, that u can replace in one button hit. I will add that heavy attack crit, will apparently also bust a shield in one shot, good to know 8).

Also, I'm not sure, but I heard that shields negate crit not sure if that is true.

It is really all depending on the build if they can take a Sorc's shield out in one hit. I won't say mine is always taken out in one hit, but it does happen often.

Tankqull

AltusVenifus wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

AltusVenifus wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

nothing2591 wrote: »

i cant belive this spell is still in the game, its so stupid that sorcs can shield for 100% of their hp with the press of 1 button.

It does NOT shield for 100% HP.

Here is mine:



This is a 48.3% shield. Nowhere near a 100% one. That 9,927 damage shield can be blown off with one wrecking blow, crit. charge, snipe, etc. etc.

Please don't post about things you obviously know nothing about.

no it can't. 9927, would break only on a crit. Basically, lethal arrow crit and wrecking blow crit. My 2400 weapon damage for lethal arrow is 4-8k depending on distance and armor, wrecking blow 7-8 without crit. Basically the skill is trading 1 skill push for 2 offensive skills (non crit) right now on a pure weapon damage build.

Granted my crits hit for 12-13k so that would break it, but only coming out of stealth.

the dmg i´m eating on my sorc is speakin a different language...

No that is a great representation!

The crits are hitting you for 17 and 15k (that is a crit damage build and higher then mine). The normal attacks are hitting u for 1 to 6k. All i'm saying is unless you get crit'ed the player hitting u needs to hit you 3-4 with abilities to break your shield. 3-4 abilities to break a shield, that u can replace in one button hit. I will add that heavy attack crit, will apparently also bust a shield in one shot, good to know 8).

Also, I'm not sure, but I heard that shields negate crit not sure if that is true.

you have to have in mind these hit were affected by my mitigation its not that much but it is existing. and what is not displayed on that on that screen aswell is the overflow effect of hits penetrating through my shield and hitting my life bar the first one i was spamming my shields as often and quick as possible and the hits displayed were affected by the shield and thus decreased before they dealt dmg to my chars life - as only that part is displayed in a death recap. untill the last one wich was just overkill

[edit] two player were dealing those dmg values the first 3 came from enemy1 the other from the second one. as you can see fromenemy 1 poison arrow did 1.4k and 2.9k while from enemy two the Venom arrow did 4k that clearly indicates 1.4k aswell as the 2.9k hits have been partly negated by my shields, as there is no way to deal a 210% dmg crit.

AhPook_Is_Here

My DK can open with a non crit lethal arrow for around 9k and weave a crit heavy attack behind it for 18k+. It one shots a lot of sorcs though hardened ward.

Hardened ward is fine. You will get further trying to be a better player than get other classes nerfed.

Teargrants

Where do these threads come from? OP, I'm gonna go on a wild guess and guess you're a NB?

If you're just gonna come on the forums and whine that w/e skill you have trouble coping with in your current build should be deleted, you aren't gonna get far in PvP.

TheLaw

Haha, hahahaha, hahahahaha!

Ourorboros

Sure hope this thread is in PVP category. Maybe then it might make sense, meaning OP doesn't know how to deal with a sorcerer. Guess he doesn't consider the impact this would have on us sorcerers using shield in PVE. Can't decide to give Darwin award or ID 10 T award.