Radiant ********* Destruction... Seriously

x_Reckonerb14_ESO

A vet 6

Did 15k Damage on me with radiant destruction. im Vet 14 in full purple medium. Stupidest *** ever, does zos not test anything?

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

@x_Reckonerb14_ESO - Could you send us an email to community@elderscrollsonline.com with more details, please, including the name of the character that did this (if you can remember?)

Also, was the 15K damage what appeared in your death recap window?

Sythias

This just happened to me while fighting AD at Nikel. Went from about 70% hp to 0 in half a second.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

What campaign, guys? We don't want you to call out any names of players here, but you can either email them or PM one of us. We can pull combat logs to take a look.

evedgebah

My tooltip at V14 in maxed spell damage equipment shows ~12k withe the 70 CP. With a 30% crit rate and a 40% boost from 10% magicka, that's totally in line with non-reduced PVE damage.

x_Reckonerb14_ESO

Its literally every templar @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

evedgebah wrote: »

My tooltip at V14 in maxed spell damage equipment shows ~12k withe the 70 CP. With a 30% crit rate and a 40% boost from 10% magicka, that's totally in line with non-reduced PVE damage.

Thanks for the additional info. It may be working as intended; we still want to make extra sure there aren't any damage stacking bug stragglers.

Bouvin

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

@x_Reckonerb14_ESO - Could you send us an email to community@elderscrollsonline.com with more details, please, including the name of the character that did this (if you can remember?)

Also, was the 15K damage what appeared in your death recap window?

Lol seriously? It was doing 20+k reported on PTS and you guys are acting all surprised?

HAHAHAHA

x_Reckonerb14_ESO

evedgebah wrote: »

My tooltip at V14 in maxed spell damage equipment shows ~12k withe the 70 CP. With a 30% crit rate and a 40% boost from 10% magicka, that's totally in line with non-reduced PVE damage.

I believe there is at least bugs with it, a vet 6 should not be able to hit a vet 14 in pvp while im rolling might i add for 15,000 Damage with one radiant destruction.

timidobserver

x_Reckonerb14_ESO wrote: »

A vet 6

Did 15k Damage on me with radiant destruction. im Vet 14 in full purple medium. Stupidest *** ever, does zos not test anything?

You should do the same or more damage with executioner in the time that it takes radiant destruction to cast.

x_Reckonerb14_ESO

Really? you must be a templar.

timidobserver

x_Reckonerb14_ESO wrote: »

Really? you must be a templar.

15,000 damage with a full radiant destruction comes up to about 5k dps since it takes 3 seconds for it to cast if you have enduring rays. 5k dps is not out of the norm in 1.6. In fact, it is pretty low for an execute.

x_Reckonerb14_ESO

timidobserver wrote: »

x_Reckonerb14_ESO wrote: »

Really? you must be a templar.

15,000 dps with a full radiant destruction comes up to about 5k dps since it takes 3 seconds for it to cast if you have enduring rays. 5k dps is not out of the norm in 1.6. In fact, it is pretty low for an execute.

It does that regardless of execute range, i can be full health and it will hit me for that much. Did i forget to mention vet 6 15k. I must have forgotten that.

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Edhelas_Naven

Seem the OPs Spell resistance is too low but who knows, many variable. Should be able to react to it and Block since it is a channel spell and they have reduced the timing of block animations.

We should give the skill some time to play out and see how it is across the board before nerfing it. It is a good skill for a Templar healer, to help out in the execute phase of PVE boss fights.

Max Magicka Beam! Muhahaha!

x_Reckonerb14_ESO

14055 spell resistance, not low.

that stuff is overpowered.

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timidobserver

x_Reckonerb14_ESO wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

x_Reckonerb14_ESO wrote: »

Really? you must be a templar.

15,000 dps with a full radiant destruction comes up to about 5k dps since it takes 3 seconds for it to cast if you have enduring rays. 5k dps is not out of the norm in 1.6. In fact, it is pretty low for an execute.

It does that regardless of execute range, i can be full health and it will hit me for that much. Did i forget to mention vet 6 15k. I must have forgotten that.

Again, 15000 damage comes up to around about 5k dps with an ability that takes 3 seconds to channel. This is relatively average/lowish dps for 1.6. The fact that he was vet 6 is probably why it did such low dps.

If this were 1.5, the guy would have hit you for 1500 over 3 seconds. That comes up to 500 pre-1.6 dps. I typically hate the phrase L2P, but that is all this is.

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x_Reckonerb14_ESO

timidobserver wrote: »

x_Reckonerb14_ESO wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

x_Reckonerb14_ESO wrote: »

Really? you must be a templar.

15,000 dps with a full radiant destruction comes up to about 5k dps since it takes 3 seconds for it to cast if you have enduring rays. 5k dps is not out of the norm in 1.6. In fact, it is pretty low for an execute.

It does that regardless of execute range, i can be full health and it will hit me for that much. Did i forget to mention vet 6 15k. I must have forgotten that.

Again, 15000 damage comes up to around about 5k dps with an ability that takes 3 seconds to channel. This is relatively average/lowish dps for 1.6. The fact that he was vet 6 is probably why it did such low dps.

If this were 1.5, the guy would have hit you for 1500 over 3 seconds. That comes up to 500 pre-1.6 dps. I typically hate the phrase L2P, but that is all this is.

So essentially what you're saying is that templars should have a spammable skill that does the same damage as soul assault? Because thats exactly what that *** is. First off do you even pvp? I'm trying to get something fixed that needs to be fixed. secondly is does not take nearly 3 seconds to cast. Go ahead and try it and time it.

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deleted221205-002626

I havent played with it since they 1st released it but it did seem a lil OP at that time... Looking forward to playing with it some more reeel soon

Panda244

Radiant Destruction can be purged off, just like Soul Assault... Or you can stun the caster.

Domander

If you go full magicka or stamina you can pull off some big numbers, gotta watch out for it, though those players are relatively squishy. That's also an execute so.... that last tick of the channel probably wrecked you.

PenguinInACan

Panda244 wrote: »

Radiant Destruction can be purged off, just like Soul Assault... Or you can stun the caster.

As long as it doesn't go through walls I think its fine. Haven't been able to play on live because of work but when I was on pts people learned to counter it pretty quick.

Edhelas_Naven

x_Reckonerb14_ESO wrote: »

14055 spell resistance, not low.

that stuff is overpowered.

An intelligent being may seek answers to identify what really happened instead of crying nerf immediately. What did i do wrong? Was it a bug? Do I have a good tactic against such spell? Is it happening to other players? Is it possible to improve my play?

I suggest you just file a bug report like they have asked you to do so that they look into it, before you also cry nerf nerf.

PS: Yes my main is a Templar Healer and I am not DPS crazy. My words may sound as if I am defending the class but what I have said is common sense and applies to any suprising situation and for any class.


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madangrypally

If spell penetration is still buggy then it does not matter how much spell resist damage mitigation a player has.

Huntler

Love how people can't do math in this thread.

timidobserver wrote: »

x_Reckonerb14_ESO wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

x_Reckonerb14_ESO wrote: »

Really? you must be a templar.

15,000 dps with a full radiant destruction comes up to about 5k dps since it takes 3 seconds for it to cast if you have enduring rays. 5k dps is not out of the norm in 1.6. In fact, it is pretty low for an execute.

Are you stupid? It does that regardless of execute range, i can be full health and it will hit me for that much. Did i forget to mention vet 6 15k. I must have forgotten that.

Again, 15000 damage comes up to around about 5k dps with an ability that takes 3 seconds to channel. This is relatively average/lowish dps for 1.6. The fact that he was vet 6 is probably why it did such low dps.

If this were 1.5, the guy would have hit you for 1500 over 3 seconds. That comes up to 500 pre-1.6 dps. I typically hate the phrase L2P, but that is all this is.

This guy guys...this guy gets it. Its day 1 of the patch and you somehow think your 1.5 build/gear setup is going to work. There will be a rebalance/learning curve period.

Sypher

Asides from the whole damage issue.


The skill should act like a soul strike, meaning..

It should be purgable, cleansable, cloakable... It sticks on you no matter what unless you interrupt. you should have the option to cleanse it.

Huntler

3 executes does more damage than 1 jesus beam... jesus beam imba though... O.o. Remember guys your death recap is all 3 seconds of the damage.... compare it to three other insta executes in a row. You want an imba ability right now go look at wrecking blow... it does as much as jesus beam with 1 use.

cazlonb16_ESO

This is the reason why putting so much of Templar dps potential into one skill is a terrible idea. It will get nerfed ( again ) eventually, we all know how these things work. And with all other Templar dps skills still sucking a**, we'll be back to square one - magicka based Templar being the worst dps build in the game that is.

Kevinmon

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

@x_Reckonerb14_ESO - Could you send us an email to community@elderscrollsonline.com with more details, please, including the name of the character that did this (if you can remember?)

Also, was the 15K damage what appeared in your death recap window?

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom I just emailed you a screenshot of the death recap screen.

yodased

If it was an execute at 20% or 25% i think it would be fair. Over the last four hours mg entire group of 6 had radiant killjoy beam on their death recap a huge amount of time. It's a bit over the top that it ramps up damage under 50% and does more damage when they have more magic.

I think the fact that you can't line of sight it is a bit broken too and the only way to break it is interrupt so ic you got two or three temps on you good luck staying alive.

All night Yuri just hear Jesus beam oh crap lol.

glak

Huntler wrote: »

3 executes does more damage than 1 jesus beam... jesus beam imba though... O.o. Remember guys your death recap is all 3 seconds of the damage.... compare it to three other insta executes in a row. You want an imba ability right now go look at wrecking blow... it does as much as jesus beam with 1 use.

Correct. In addition, Radiant Destruction can be interrupted which wrecks the caster (not a pretty sight)
Meanwhile, Wrecking Blow cannot be interrupted, dodging it correctly takes some skill, and the same skill line has a more than functional charge.

JackDaniell

Radiant is a joke, it cant be purged, people can hit you with it while your rolling, 30 meter range, their is no defense to it.

Its a more effective execute for stamina builds then executioner even with base spell damage and magicka.
THIS SKILL NEEDS TO BE FIXED ITS MAKING TEMPLAR LOOK BAD