Urgent Hotfix Required

CosmicChaos

By the way EP and DC players can come down to the AD spawn until they get this fixed. It's combat free here down here. ^^

Nathma

Hopefully, this gets fixed soon. I also really hope that they find a way to remove the Wayshrine port from folks that have discovered it. People are using forward camps to hurry and get the Wayshrine port opened before this is fixed on as many people as they can. I think removing the port will be a bit trickier and will be abused long after the base camp zones are closed off to enemy forces again. Maybe put massively OP, killer guards at the wayshrines to one-shot any hostiles that try and sneak in. As mentioned already, people will simply port in behind closed gates & snatch scrolls/wreak havoc. Sad, but as soon as things like this happen (stacking bats, caltrops, etc., etc.) it becomes a race to use the exploit as much as possible before it gets remedied.

leewells

Bloodvax wrote: »

Wait a minute.........the EP on Bloodthorn werent burning the camps immediately. You guys were camping the people spawning at them, farming em if you will. THen when you got your teeth kicked in you started crying EXPLOITS HAX THIEVES BAN HAMMER. Hmmm interesting. If you didnt want people spawning in you would've burned the camp immediately

No, you wait a second, are we supposed to psychically know when a tent is bugged now or are we just supposed to go on faith that it is bugged? Regardless, the players weren't just using tents, they were using wall hacks. Yeah, tents get burned and enemy players get eradicated -- pretty standard procedure until you see them trying to rez each other which is a great indicator that they can't spawn at their tent.

Bloodvax

Eh if they keep baning people they wont have any more money rolling in since they keeping losing subs left and right. More bans less people supporting the game. Guess that works out great for you? Right?

Bloodvax

leewells wrote: »

Bloodvax wrote: »

Wait a minute.........the EP on Bloodthorn werent burning the camps immediately. You guys were camping the people spawning at them, farming em if you will. THen when you got your teeth kicked in you started crying EXPLOITS HAX THIEVES BAN HAMMER. Hmmm interesting. If you didnt want people spawning in you would've burned the camp immediately

No, you wait a second, are we supposed to psychically know when a tent is bugged now or are we just supposed to go on faith that it is bugged? Regardless, the players weren't just using tents, they were using wall hacks. Yeah, tents get burned and enemy players get eradicated -- pretty standard procedure until you see them trying to rez each other which is a great indicator that they can't spawn at their tent.

You can burn down a bugged camp genius

Rylana

Bloodvax wrote: »

Eh if they keep baning people they wont have any more money rolling in since they keeping losing subs left and right. More bans less people supporting the game. Guess that works out great for you? Right?

Id rather a small community than a community full of exploiting manchildren obsessed with getting pats on the back from their fellow griefers.

it got old 10 years ago, it is still old today.

I fully support the summary ban of every single person in any faction that has used this exploit. AD/EP/and DC.

leewells

Bloodvax wrote: »

leewells wrote: »

Bloodvax wrote: »

Wait a minute.........the EP on Bloodthorn werent burning the camps immediately. You guys were camping the people spawning at them, farming em if you will. THen when you got your teeth kicked in you started crying EXPLOITS HAX THIEVES BAN HAMMER. Hmmm interesting. If you didnt want people spawning in you would've burned the camp immediately

No, you wait a second, are we supposed to psychically know when a tent is bugged now or are we just supposed to go on faith that it is bugged? Regardless, the players weren't just using tents, they were using wall hacks. Yeah, tents get burned and enemy players get eradicated -- pretty standard procedure until you see them trying to rez each other which is a great indicator that they can't spawn at their tent.

You can burn down a bugged camp genius

You can also burn down a working tent too, genius. Your point?

Duskwolf

You know, it's not even the players who exploited this that anger me the most in this situation. No, it's the total lack of response from Zenimax that is most upsetting. This has been going on for hours (is still going on) and nothing has been done to stop it. All it would take is one GM standing there banning people on the spot to put an end to it. Why does this game have zero GM presence in-game?

SienneYviete

leewells wrote: »

Bloodvax wrote: »

Wait a minute.........the EP on Bloodthorn werent burning the camps immediately. You guys were camping the people spawning at them, farming em if you will. THen when you got your teeth kicked in you started crying EXPLOITS HAX THIEVES BAN HAMMER. Hmmm interesting. If you didnt want people spawning in you would've burned the camp immediately

No, you wait a second, are we supposed to psychically know when a tent is bugged now or are we just supposed to go on faith that it is bugged? Regardless, the players weren't just using tents, they were using wall hacks. Yeah, tents get burned and enemy players get eradicated -- pretty standard procedure until you see them trying to rez each other which is a great indicator that they can't spawn at their tent.

Your definition of a wall hack is pretty different to mine.

Rylana

Duskwolf wrote: »

You know, it's not even the players who exploited this that anger me the most in this situation. No, it's the total lack of response from Zenimax that is most upsetting. This has been going on for hours (is still going on) and nothing has been done to stop it. All it would take is one GM standing there banning people on the spot to put an end to it. Why does this game have zero GM presence in-game?

That I dont understand either. We have confirmation from DEV/Community that this is against terms yet no GM has been dispatched.

Bloodvax

leewells wrote: »

Bloodvax wrote: »

leewells wrote: »

Bloodvax wrote: »

Wait a minute.........the EP on Bloodthorn werent burning the camps immediately. You guys were camping the people spawning at them, farming em if you will. THen when you got your teeth kicked in you started crying EXPLOITS HAX THIEVES BAN HAMMER. Hmmm interesting. If you didnt want people spawning in you would've burned the camp immediately

No, you wait a second, are we supposed to psychically know when a tent is bugged now or are we just supposed to go on faith that it is bugged? Regardless, the players weren't just using tents, they were using wall hacks. Yeah, tents get burned and enemy players get eradicated -- pretty standard procedure until you see them trying to rez each other which is a great indicator that they can't spawn at their tent.

You can burn down a bugged camp genius

You can also burn down a working tent too, genius. Your point?

Point is..........as said before...........you farmed plenty of people that were spawning at the FC, instead of burning it down, which would have resulted in nobody spawning there. Nobody on Bloodthorn exploited the wall. When we logged in today, there was already a FC behind enemy lines. We just rezzed at it and had a little fun. If you really didnt want people there you could have just destroyed forward camp. but you didnt you tried to farm kills on people spawning in. Pot kettle and what not

leewells

Eldhaaril wrote: »

leewells wrote: »

Bloodvax wrote: »

Wait a minute.........the EP on Bloodthorn werent burning the camps immediately. You guys were camping the people spawning at them, farming em if you will. THen when you got your teeth kicked in you started crying EXPLOITS HAX THIEVES BAN HAMMER. Hmmm interesting. If you didnt want people spawning in you would've burned the camp immediately

No, you wait a second, are we supposed to psychically know when a tent is bugged now or are we just supposed to go on faith that it is bugged? Regardless, the players weren't just using tents, they were using wall hacks. Yeah, tents get burned and enemy players get eradicated -- pretty standard procedure until you see them trying to rez each other which is a great indicator that they can't spawn at their tent.

Your definition of a wall hack is pretty different to mine.

I've seen what looks like a wall hack to me, and I've seen terrain hacks (or exploiting super-jump spots to be slung into an area they shouldn't be).

Then again, I've seen them also just appear at/near/around the wayshrine at the northern morrwind gate out of thin air.

Bloodvax

You'd rather a small unsupported community with no updates or new content LOLZ

SienneYviete

How are these hacks do you actually know what a game hack is?

Rylana

Bloodvax wrote: »

You'd rather a small unsupported community with no updates or new content LOLZ

If it gets rid of the scum destroying the game from within, absolutely.

TheGrandAlliance

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/113910/how-to-hack-cyrodiil


Read and learn.

Rylana

You probably shouldnt be spreading that around.

TheGrandAlliance

Rylana wrote: »

You probably shouldnt be spreading that around.

The more people know what is going on the more likely something is to be done about it: The methods you can use are Grand in scale so even if they fix one hole there are still many others...

leewells

Eldhaaril wrote: »

How are these hacks do you actually know what a game hack is?

You caught me, I don't use them, so I have to go on hearsay and what is privy to us in youtube unless you can attest to anything different.

Oh, you're asking for the definition? As in a program that modifies memory blocks before or after it is processed to manipulate game mechanics and/or programs that intercept and manipulate packets to also manipulate game mechanics?

But appearing out of thin air somewhere sure looks like a hack to me. Seeing someone zooming through the air and landing precisely in a small pool or on geometry that causes them 0 damage also seems like a hack/bot to me as well. You believe it is something different?

Bloodvax

leewells wrote: »

Eldhaaril wrote: »

leewells wrote: »

Bloodvax wrote: »

Wait a minute.........the EP on Bloodthorn werent burning the camps immediately. You guys were camping the people spawning at them, farming em if you will. THen when you got your teeth kicked in you started crying EXPLOITS HAX THIEVES BAN HAMMER. Hmmm interesting. If you didnt want people spawning in you would've burned the camp immediately

No, you wait a second, are we supposed to psychically know when a tent is bugged now or are we just supposed to go on faith that it is bugged? Regardless, the players weren't just using tents, they were using wall hacks. Yeah, tents get burned and enemy players get eradicated -- pretty standard procedure until you see them trying to rez each other which is a great indicator that they can't spawn at their tent.

Your definition of a wall hack is pretty different to mine.

I've seen what looks like a wall hack to me, and I've seen terrain hacks (or exploiting super-jump spots to be slung into an area they shouldn't be).

Then again, I've seen them also just appear at/near/around the wayshrine at the northern morrwind gate out of thin air.

Appear out of thin air? Like DARK CLOAK? or freakin STEALTH.

Bloodvax

Rylana wrote: »

Bloodvax wrote: »

You'd rather a small unsupported community with no updates or new content LOLZ

If it gets rid of the scum destroying the game from within, absolutely.

There isnt a level of facepalm known to man for this amount of derp

SienneYviete

leewells wrote: »

Eldhaaril wrote: »

How are these hacks do you actually know what a game hack is?

You caught me, I don't use them, so I have to go on hearsay and what is privy to us in youtube unless you can attest to anything different.

But appearing out of thin air somewhere sure looks like a hack to me. Seeing someone zooming through the air and landing precisely in a small pool or on geometry that causes them 0 damage also seems like a hack/bot to me as well. You believe it is something different?

Hearsay isn't factual evidence.

SuperJChat

Bloodvax is a troll and is just breeding hate, just ignore his comments and don't quote him

leewells

Eldhaaril wrote: »

leewells wrote: »

Eldhaaril wrote: »

How are these hacks do you actually know what a game hack is?

You caught me, I don't use them, so I have to go on hearsay and what is privy to us in youtube unless you can attest to anything different.

But appearing out of thin air somewhere sure looks like a hack to me. Seeing someone zooming through the air and landing precisely in a small pool or on geometry that causes them 0 damage also seems like a hack/bot to me as well. You believe it is something different?

Hearsay isn't factual evidence.

So you say you run these programs and know first-hand? Or perhaps you used to before you realized it was wrong?

Bloodvax wrote: »

leewells wrote: »

Eldhaaril wrote: »

leewells wrote: »

Bloodvax wrote: »

Wait a minute.........the EP on Bloodthorn werent burning the camps immediately. You guys were camping the people spawning at them, farming em if you will. THen when you got your teeth kicked in you started crying EXPLOITS HAX THIEVES BAN HAMMER. Hmmm interesting. If you didnt want people spawning in you would've burned the camp immediately

No, you wait a second, are we supposed to psychically know when a tent is bugged now or are we just supposed to go on faith that it is bugged? Regardless, the players weren't just using tents, they were using wall hacks. Yeah, tents get burned and enemy players get eradicated -- pretty standard procedure until you see them trying to rez each other which is a great indicator that they can't spawn at their tent.

Your definition of a wall hack is pretty different to mine.

I've seen what looks like a wall hack to me, and I've seen terrain hacks (or exploiting super-jump spots to be slung into an area they shouldn't be).

Then again, I've seen them also just appear at/near/around the wayshrine at the northern morrwind gate out of thin air.

Appear out of thin air? Like DARK CLOAK? or freakin STEALTH.

As in, no one is there, you're sneaking, and your eyelid opens, and someone appears in front of you (where I had two oil pots ready, mind you )

Rylana

Bloodvax wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Bloodvax wrote: »

You'd rather a small unsupported community with no updates or new content LOLZ

If it gets rid of the scum destroying the game from within, absolutely.

Their isnt a level of facepalm known to man for this amount of derp

"There" isn't a level of derision known to man for that amount of unsportsmanlike conduct.

I could care less if every one of them is banned forever. It just means less people willing to exploit every possible exploitable mechanic and ruin even more things for everyone else.

Bloodvax

SuperJChat wrote: »

Bloodvax is a troll and is just breeding hate, just ignore his comments and don't quote him

Sorry for making too much sense. Guess good points made with a little humor qualifies as trolling. Whoops

SienneYviete

leewells wrote: »

Eldhaaril wrote: »

leewells wrote: »

Eldhaaril wrote: »

How are these hacks do you actually know what a game hack is?

You caught me, I don't use them, so I have to go on hearsay and what is privy to us in youtube unless you can attest to anything different.

But appearing out of thin air somewhere sure looks like a hack to me. Seeing someone zooming through the air and landing precisely in a small pool or on geometry that causes them 0 damage also seems like a hack/bot to me as well. You believe it is something different?

Hearsay isn't factual evidence.

So you say you run these programs and know first-hand?

Derp comment right there come back when you have something a little better please.

SuperJChat

Eldhaaril wrote: »

leewells wrote: »

Eldhaaril wrote: »

How are these hacks do you actually know what a game hack is?

You caught me, I don't use them, so I have to go on hearsay and what is privy to us in youtube unless you can attest to anything different.

But appearing out of thin air somewhere sure looks like a hack to me. Seeing someone zooming through the air and landing precisely in a small pool or on geometry that causes them 0 damage also seems like a hack/bot to me as well. You believe it is something different?

Hearsay isn't factual evidence.

Dude ok so whats your point? They shouldnt be in the spawn areas and they know it, who cares if its a hack or a "wall-jump" or whatever you wanna call it? Stop arguing semantics, this is a real issue and it needs to be addressed

Whatever they are doing to get into the Safe zones needs to be fixed

Rylana

Bloodvax wrote: »

SuperJChat wrote: »

Bloodvax is a troll and is just breeding hate, just ignore his comments and don't quote him

Sorry for making too much sense. Guess good points made with a little humor qualifies as trolling. Whoops

So far your only contribution has been trying to say that its okay to exploit the hell out of the game as long as the game is being funded by the exploiters.

Youre completely full of it, just saying.

Bloodvax

Best thing is the EP on Bloodthorn were perfectly happy when they were slaughtering the people at their gate for free AP. The minute they get roflstomped its whine whine whine. It'd be funnier if it wasnt so pathetic