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Not Going to Punish Myself - Difficulty Change was NOT Tested

  • Vlaxitov
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    Sadae wrote: »
    lol, most of these people crying are the same ones who say, "learn to play" when other classes get nerfed. Well I say the same thing here: Learn to play!

    I hate a game where people can just max out DPS then kill anything before the mob can touch them, all without using any CC's even. If there's actually some challenge now and power-hungry kiddies can't just press 1-2-3 to kill mobs, then I'm all for it!

    Strategy girls!

    And to all the *** replies this post will receive: HAHA! Sux to suck! Cya! And don't let the door hit you on the way out! =P

    Its not about class nerfs. What level content are you currently playing?

  • daihok75b14_ESO
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    Soul Shriven
    Currently im doing Vr4 and having no problems taking 3 mobs on.

    Had to do quick edit. when I say no problems I mean its doable, hard yes but doable none the less.
    Edited by daihok75b14_ESO on 23 May 2014 03:23
  • Arreyanne
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    OP now now they had their elite PTS testers testing this

    It was tested just fine ask them
  • Garetth
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    Im not saying its not hard and yes maybe could be toned down. I just hope they don't make its so easy that it can be steamrolled. I have always liked higher difficulty myself but I am just 1 person.

    [Moderation: Content removed for Flaming]
    Edited by ZOS_SilviaS on 23 May 2014 03:48
  • tilolyen_ESO
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    Currently im doing Vr4 and having no problems taking 3 mobs on.

    Had to do quick edit. when I say no problems I mean its doable, hard yes but doable none the less.

    Do us all a favor since you got the super secret magic recipe to defeat mobs. Take a trip real quick to the next zone (VR5) and fight a 1 vs 1 and see how you do....then come back.
  • Vlaxitov
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    Currently im doing Vr4 and having no problems taking 3 mobs on.

    What class and spec are you using? I seriously want to know because I cannot take down 3xVR3 mobs with "no problem." I have a decent HP pool for my level and decent armor/resistance and I last 5-7 seconds if its 3 mobs, and that's healing myself. Some mob packs are easier than others but just about any combination of 3 humanoid plays out as I mentioned. If I have room I can kite them but in hallways its just not happening.

  • Yankee
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    Sadae wrote: »
    lol, most of these people crying are the same ones who say, "learn to play" when other classes get nerfed. Well I say the same thing here: Learn to play!

    I hate a game where people can just max out DPS then kill anything before the mob can touch them, all without using any CC's even. If there's actually some challenge now and power-hungry kiddies can't just press 1-2-3 to kill mobs, then I'm all for it!

    Strategy girls!

    And to all the *** replies this post will receive: HAHA! Sux to suck! Cya! And don't let the door hit you on the way out! =P

    Up until today I defended VR difficulty. was doing okay through VR5 but it was challenging to me. After today you handful of guys who are cheering will be able to roam the new content with, well, a handful of guys in the whole zone.

    Even now if they come out and say it was a bug and revert it, I will not believe them. Hours of silence means to me that it was intended and they wanted to test the response while treating us like mushrooms.

    So yes, if this change stands, Cya.

    /signed; just another ***
    Edited by Yankee on 23 May 2014 03:31
  • michaelpatrickjonesnub18_ESO
    At least console gamers have something to brag about now.

    Keep it like this until Christmas.

    With this patch, ESO might win an award for being one of the toughest console games of the year. Quite an achievement.
  • tilolyen_ESO
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    Yankee wrote: »
    Sadae wrote: »
    lol, most of these people crying are the same ones who say, "learn to play" when other classes get nerfed. Well I say the same thing here: Learn to play!

    I hate a game where people can just max out DPS then kill anything before the mob can touch them, all without using any CC's even. If there's actually some challenge now and power-hungry kiddies can't just press 1-2-3 to kill mobs, then I'm all for it!

    Strategy girls!

    And to all the *** replies this post will receive: HAHA! Sux to suck! Cya! And don't let the door hit you on the way out! =P

    Up until today I defended VR difficulty. was doing okay through VR5 but it was challenging to me. After today you handful of guys who are cheering will be able to roam the new content with, well, a handful of guys in the whole zone.

    Even now if they come out and say it was a bug and revert it, I will not believe them. Hours of silence means to me that it was intended and they wanted to test the response.

    So ya, Cya.

    Yeah....good luck to those trying to kill world bosses or Anchors. It was already a hassle in the VR5+ zones to do them as they were mostly empty. A rude awakening is upon the sub vr5 players talking out their rectum.
  • ciannait
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    Arreyanne wrote: »
    OP now now they had their elite PTS testers testing this

    It was tested just fine ask them

    Actually it sounds like exactly what happened in beta - lots of reported issues, none of which got fixed for the release.
  • daihok75b14_ESO
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    Soul Shriven
    Currently im doing Vr4 and having no problems taking 3 mobs on.

    Had to do quick edit. when I say no problems I mean its doable, hard yes but doable none the less.

    Do us all a favor since you got the super secret magic recipe to defeat mobs. Take a trip real quick to the next zone (VR5) and fight a 1 vs 1 and see how you do....then come back.

    Ok done and Did took on 3 zombie mobs and did just fine anyone who wants to find me in game and see for themselves by all means group up find me and see for yourself.
  • Jimm_ay
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    VR2 mobs as well...just turned vr2 pre patch - now 3 mobs and farming me. If one of the npcs is an arch I am even more screwed - they are hitting for 1000+ dmg in one shot.
  • Vlaxitov
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    Ok done and Did took on 3 zombie mobs and did just fine anyone who wants to find me in game and see for themselves by all means group up find me and see for yourself.

    In a dungeon right? Without kiting them?, and I'd still like to know what class/spec you're using in all seriousness. Maybe it will help me to adapt to this being playable for me.
    Edited by Vlaxitov on 23 May 2014 03:36
  • TheGrandAlliance
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    Arreyanne wrote: »
    OP now now they had their elite PTS testers testing this

    It was tested just fine ask them



    Thoughs "elite PTS" need to be "fired" for their Crimes Against Humanity. Their testing is a joke: from beta onwards...
    Edited by TheGrandAlliance on 23 May 2014 03:36
    Indeed it is so...
  • gurluasb16_ESO
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    I don't think this was in the PTS patch or it'd be caught fast.
  • Arreyanne
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    ciannait wrote: »
    Arreyanne wrote: »
    OP now now they had their elite PTS testers testing this

    It was tested just fine ask them

    Actually it sounds like exactly what happened in beta - lots of reported issues, none of which got fixed for the release.

    Well one the things I posted last week or so ago in the PTS for only some players
    was something along that lines.

    According to most of the stuff the PTS groups said before release, and not all of them, the game was the second coming. Then they released it to the masses Bugs out ying yang, dupes, skill points disappearing, banks disappearing.

    Apparently they don't stress the builds enough with their limited testers is all i can figure

  • daihok75b14_ESO
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    In the open world and NO kiting. I am a DK using sword and board. I use burning talons, engulfing flames, cinder storm, Burning embers, and of course green dragon blood, 7/7 light armor. Like is aid anyone who disbelieves can find me and group up to watch. Im still Vr3 only 20k from Vr4 and doing Vr5 mobs just like I was asked to. I am ebonheart pact. So I am In bangkorai. name is Vladamier in game if you care to see.
    Edited by daihok75b14_ESO on 23 May 2014 03:39
  • ciannait
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    Arreyanne wrote: »
    OP now now they had their elite PTS testers testing this

    It was tested just fine ask them



    Thoughs "elite PTS" need to be "fired" for their Crimes Against Humanity. Their testing is a joke: from beta onwards...

    To be fair, you can file all the bugs you want, if the PM triages them all into the roundfile they're going to ship a broken product. Don't blame the testers, there are several who've chimed in and said they reported many of these issues. Blame the people who saw the bug reports and then didn't prioritize them.
  • Big_O
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    I was instant killed by a tiger earlier. Solo grinding is almost impossible for me at the moment.

    http://i57.tinypic.com/2njfuc6.jpg
    Edited by Big_O on 23 May 2014 14:01
  • stevenpotter321b14_ESO
    In the open world and NO kiting. I am a DK using sword and board. I use burning talons, engulfing flames, cinder storm, Burning embers, and of course green dragon blood, 7/7 light armor.

    Im thinking a lot of the complaints are coming from NBs, not DKs.
  • Vlaxitov
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    In the open world and NO kiting. I am a DK using sword and board. I use burning talons, engulfing flames, cinder storm, Burning embers, and of course green dragon blood, 7/7 light armor.

    I'm a templar so I guess I'm SOL when it comes to your plan. How would you suggest a templar go about it? Seriously, 3 humanoid VR3 mobs can take me down in 3-7 seconds depending on what they are.

    Edited by Vlaxitov on 23 May 2014 03:44
  • TheGrandAlliance
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    ciannait wrote: »
    To be fair, you can file all the bugs you want, if the PM triages them all into the roundfile they're going to ship a broken product. Don't blame the testers, there are several who've chimed in and said they reported many of these issues. Blame the people who saw the bug reports and then didn't prioritize them.

    O RELLY?

    The AoE cap situation... apparently no one even knew about it until ZeniMax made it visible with 1.1. Did the "testers" discover this?


    Apparently not.
    Indeed it is so...
  • ExiledKhallisi
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    Game was too easy before. Stop crying. It should be even harder than this to weed out the button mashers with tunnel vision. As a healer I watch these failhards stand in fire or not dodge big attacks or aoe's all day. Skilled players should be at the top. Not everyone like wow.
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  • LariahHunding
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    Game was too easy before. Stop crying. It should be even harder than this to weed out the button mashers with tunnel vision. As a healer I watch these failhards stand in fire or not dodge big attacks or aoe's all day. Skilled players should be at the top. Not everyone like wow.
    \

    Enjoy your f2p game in a couple of months.

    "Give a man a sweet roll, he only has one to steal. Give him a sweet roll recipe, he have bunches to steal."

  • cliveklgb14_ESO
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    Testing was just fine???

    I reported mounds of bugs in beta, and not one of them was fixed by release. All the quest spawn issues they had, world boss spawn issues, every one of them reported, months before release. Not one of them fixed.

    I really have to wonder how they manage their testing bug reports. And if the same system as beta was used for Craglorn, it is no wonder things are so messed up.
  • tilolyen_ESO
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    Game was too easy before. Stop crying. It should be even harder than this to weed out the button mashers with tunnel vision. As a healer I watch these failhards stand in fire or not dodge big attacks or aoe's all day. Skilled players should be at the top. Not everyone like wow.

    So my question to this TOOL that belongs back in the shed, IS THIS A GAME OR A JOB??? I bet you are a skilled player as well pushing those 3 heal buttons too. Hypocrisy at its finest.
  • TheGrandAlliance
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    Testing was just fine???

    I reported mounds of bugs in beta, and not one of them was fixed by release. All the quest spawn issues they had, world boss spawn issues, every one of them reported, months before release. Not one of them fixed.

    I really have to wonder how they manage their testing bug reports. And if the same system as beta was used for Craglorn, it is no wonder things are so messed up.

    Beta is different then PTS. The "weekend stress test betas" were very effective. However the "PTS" or "Elite testers" (closed closed beta) not so much...
    Indeed it is so...
  • TheGrandAlliance
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    Enjoy your f2p game in a couple of months.

    Not until they recover 100% of game's "losses" first. Common industry (and business) practice. IF the game cost 200million... they make 50x1 million on box sales... that leaves 150million in subs left: That would be a year or so in subs (assuming everyone stays onboard).
    Indeed it is so...
  • MrBeatDown
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    ...are we talking VR10-12? IF so its SUPPOSED to be Hard. Else because the players will /roflstomp the game 12 hours after launch of 1.1 and then will just /elitewhine that they want more content.

    after the nerf the normal v5-v10 trash mob monsters have become very very hard to kill. Can only kill 1 if its by itself. 3 trash mobs completely destroy me now. I haven't even bothered walking out the town in craglorn to see how bad it is. No fun at all, Im a Imperial Dk so I no longer have any viable attack skills.
  • Vlaxitov
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    Game was too easy before. Stop crying. It should be even harder than this to weed out the button mashers with tunnel vision. As a healer I watch these failhards stand in fire or not dodge big attacks or aoe's all day. Skilled players should be at the top. Not everyone like wow.

    So my question to this TOOL that belongs back in the shed, IS THIS A GAME OR A JOB??? I bet you are a skilled player as well pushing those 3 heal buttons too. Hypocrisy at its finest.

    I'd be interested in knowing what level content he is playing.

    Like half the dominion V3 content was doable and then I hit a brick wall where the mobs could basically 2-4 shot me if I didn't do something. I'm going down too fast to even get a grip on what is wrong. Basically, the solo content feels like I'm trying to solo a pre vet level dungeon at appropriate level.

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