Not Going to Punish Myself - Difficulty Change was NOT Tested

ghost151

The veteran level difficulty change is ridiculous. I love a challenge but the game is unplayable now at veteran levels unless you are in a group. I'm not against grouping but you should not be forced to do it all the time.

Subs will drop like a rock if it's not changed quick.

TheGrandAlliance

...are we talking VR10-12? IF so its SUPPOSED to be Hard. Else because the players will /roflstomp the game 12 hours after launch of 1.1 and then will just /elitewhine that they want more content.

KhajiitiLizard

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

...are we talking vr10-12? IF so its SUPPOSED to be Hard. Else the game because /roflstomp and players 12 hours after launch of 1.1 will just /elitewhine that they want more content.

Not just at that level vr 5 is now stupid hard as well.

Slash8915

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

...are we talking vr10-12? IF so its SUPPOSED to be Hard. Else the game because /roflstomp and players 12 hours after launch of 1.1 will just /elitewhine that they want more content.

Craglorn mobs are actually easier than VR7 mobs. I'm seriously thinking about unsubbing for a while until they fix most of these issues they've introduced in this patch.

Enigma1985

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

...are we talking vr10-12? IF so its SUPPOSED to be Hard. Else the game because /roflstomp and players 12 hours after launch of 1.1 will just /elitewhine that they want more content.

^ This

Granted my highest character is 33 so I cannot comment on endgame changes and additions. However I've been playing MMO's long enough to be able to say that sometime in the next two weeks or so the people that gobble up the content in a matter of days will be complaining about a lack of content.

Vlaxitov

ThatArgonianGuy wrote: »

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

...are we talking vr10-12? IF so its SUPPOSED to be Hard. Else the game because /roflstomp and players 12 hours after launch of 1.1 will just /elitewhine that they want more content.

Not just at that level vr 5 is now stupid hard as well.

Anything more than 2 VR3 mobs is absolutely molesting me now.

I basically can't solo quest without a group.

TheGrandAlliance

They DID boost VR EXP comabt by 2x. However still waiting for patch on Eurozone so IDK...

Slash8915

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

They DID boost VR EXP comabt by 2x. However still waiting for patch on Eurozone so IDK...

2x the xp is not even CLOSE to being worth the mobs being 2x as hard. You need so much xp in VR levels that nobody is going to farm mobs anyways.

coryevans_3b14_ESO

Enigma1985 wrote: »

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

...are we talking vr10-12? IF so its SUPPOSED to be Hard. Else the game because /roflstomp and players 12 hours after launch of 1.1 will just /elitewhine that they want more content.

^ This

Granted my highest character is 33 so I cannot comment on endgame changes and additions. However I've been playing MMO's long enough to be able to say that sometime in the next two weeks or so the people that gobble up the content in a matter of days will be complaining about a lack of content.

Stfu about stuff you don't understand. This isn't a "it's too hard" thing. They *** up and made regualr Vr content harder then it already was. Which was hard, but acceptable. Now it's rediculous. My vr4 temp resto healer was already a pain in the ass but I did it because I wanted a healer for my guild. Now it's impossible.

theweakminded

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

They DID boost VR EXP comabt by 2x. However still waiting for patch on Eurozone so IDK...

It seems more like they doubled stats and not xp. I noticed no xp difference, while being 2shot was much easier.

TheGrandAlliance

WEll... if this all is true: I guess me will stay VR1 for awhile...

PBpsy

This is most likely a bug. VR5 trough VR10 mobs are more powerful than Craglorn mobs by quite a bit. It is the first time I just grind mobs. Crocodiles and damn Bloodfiends in Craglorn so I can get to VR9. .VR9-10 areas are pretty much impossible.

Vlaxitov

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

My vr4 temp resto healer was already a pain in the ass but I did it because I wanted a healer for my guild. Now it's impossible.

Going through the exact same thing atm. I don't think its just us though rather than every VR under 10 right now.

Viss

They definitely increased damage VR mobs deal, and increased HP by about 1.5x as much. Mobs I was fighting went from 2400-ish hp to 3500-ish. Not sure why a change was needed, before it was fine.

It's not impossible for me... I've done a few quests. But is it fun? No... not really. The previous difficulty level was fine. I play as a NB btw, VR 8 in Deshaan.

Yankee

This is at least the 4th thread on this subject since the server came up.

And a mod has not even popped in to tell anyone if it was intentional or a bug.

Liked the game, but This company is suicidal.

gurluasb16_ESO

It's already bad enough that they bumped Cyrodiil mobs to VR5 basically screwing anyone who isn't around VR5 up...But they also buffed all VR mobs so they're nearly impossible.

It was hard enough as it was before this.

DaGhostDS

Vr9-10 mobs are kinda ridiculous, pre 1.1 was about right and i dont even think they increased their XP gain and even if it was increased, the hp/damage gain outweight the "new xp".

reagen_lionel

its bad enough they raised the levels of the npc enemies in cyrodil to vet 5 so now its crazy hard for anyone not even close to that now. Anyone not vet rank just out to not go to cyrodil at all now.

But they screwed up the regular veteren ranked monsters too? Gah..

TheGrandAlliance

reagen_lionel wrote: »

its bad enough they raised the levels of the npc enemies in cyrodil to vet 5 so now its crazy hard for anyone not even close to that now. Anyone not vet rank just out to not go to cyrodil at all now.

Given the VR10 of players... this was already true. Low lvls have effectively 0% chance vs (at least a) skilled player. This way the map is more balanced... and isn't a /steamroll for Vets over the entire map.

tilolyen_ESO

Granted my highest character is 33 so I cannot comment on endgame changes and additions.

Then don't. This is like saying "Though I am not a brain surgeon, I will speak about giving a lombotomy.

Natjur

V1-V10 mobs give the same exp as before but are harder (Patch notes say they give more exp, but the counts are the same)
V11-12 mobs seem easier then V10 mobs in the old zones

Rikushin

VR content is broken. Unless this is fixed soon I will be canceling my subscription. That or fix DKs so they dont ucking suck anymore.

One Two

Enigma1985 wrote: »

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

...are we talking vr10-12? IF so its SUPPOSED to be Hard. Else the game because /roflstomp and players 12 hours after launch of 1.1 will just /elitewhine that they want more content.

^ This

Granted my highest character is 33 so I cannot comment on endgame changes and additions. However I've been playing MMO's long enough to be able to say that sometime in the next two weeks or so the people that gobble up the content in a matter of days will be complaining about a lack of content.

So you have not experienced VR content, yet choose to comment and make assumptions....

daihok75b14_ESO

For starters VR mobs do give more XP was getting 42xp for basic kills now getting 106xp basic kills. First everyone complained game was to easy now everyone complaining cause game to hard. Learn to adapt. Is it harder yes its harder. thank goodness is all I have to say. Game was soooo easy 1-50 and even before VR was fairly easy. have I died more since patch? Sure I have. Am I figuring out new ways to survive it? You betcha. Yes I am DK and yes I have felt the small nerfs we got hit by because Bash was definitely in my rotation for dmg. But Im adapting.

Yankee

daihok75b14_ESO wrote: »

For starters VR mobs do give more XP was getting 42xp for basic kills now getting 106xp basic kills. First everyone complained game was to easy now everyone complaining cause game to hard. Learn to adapt. Is it harder yes its harder. thank goodness is all I have to say. Game was soooo easy 1-50 and even before VR was fairly easy. have I died more since patch? Sure I have. Am I figuring out new ways to survive it? You betcha. Yes I am DK and yes I have felt the small nerfs we got hit by because Bash was definitely in my rotation for dmg. But Im adapting.

Yesterday's difficulty I would and have defended. They went to far this patch unless for some reason they want very few people in this game.

Vlaxitov

daihok75b14_ESO wrote: »

For starters VR mobs do give more XP was getting 42xp for basic kills now getting 106xp basic kills. First everyone complained game was to easy now everyone complaining cause game to hard. Learn to adapt. Is it harder yes its harder. thank goodness is all I have to say. Game was soooo easy 1-50 and even before VR was fairly easy. have I died more since patch? Sure I have. Am I figuring out new ways to survive it? You betcha. Yes I am DK and yes I have felt the small nerfs we got hit by because Bash was definitely in my rotation for dmg. But Im adapting.

I'll adapt to playing another game because at VR3 content 2-3 mobs can take me down in 5-7 seconds.

daihok75b14_ESO

Im not saying its not hard and yes maybe could be toned down. I just hope they don't make its so easy that it can be steamrolled. I have always liked higher difficulty myself but I am just 1 person.

Vlaxitov

daihok75b14_ESO wrote: »

Im not saying its not hard and yes maybe could be toned down. I just hope they don't make its so easy that it can be steamrolled. I have always liked higher difficulty myself but I am just 1 person.

If by higher difficulty you mean could solo the solo content yesterday and can't today then sure. Out of curiosity, what level content are you playing atm?

tilolyen_ESO

Learn to adapt. Is it harder yes its harder. thank goodness is all I have to say.

Obviously you have some masochistic tendencies. People pay to play a GAME and ENJOY themselves. This isn't "how much can we punish our customer" online.

Sadae

lol, most of these people crying are the same ones who say, "learn to play" when other classes get nerfed. Well I say the same thing here: Learn to play!

I hate a game where people can just max out DPS then kill anything before the mob can touch them, all without using any CC's even. If there's actually some challenge now and power-hungry kiddies can't just press 1-2-3 to kill mobs, then I'm all for it!

Strategy girls!

And to all the *** replies this post will receive: HAHA! Sux to suck! Cya! And don't let the door hit you on the way out! =P

TheGrandAlliance

daihok75b14_ESO wrote: »

For starters VR mobs do give more XP was getting 42xp for basic kills now getting 106xp basic kills. First everyone complained game was to easy now everyone complaining cause game to hard. Learn to adapt. Is it harder yes its harder. thank goodness is all I have to say. Game was soooo easy 1-50 and even before VR was fairly easy. have I died more since patch? Sure I have. Am I figuring out new ways to survive it? You betcha. Yes I am DK and yes I have felt the small nerfs we got hit by because Bash was definitely in my rotation for dmg. But Im adapting.

THis is because now the game is out of reach for most players. VR10s will continue to dominate in PvP even mores now that it is harder for lower lvls to catch up.


And because ZeniMax did this with 0 official warning: No one had time to anticipate such massive changes to leveling time.