monkeymystic wrote: »I have NOT made this video, it's from the user "medakonable" on Youtube.
But it shows a Nightblade SOLO Veteran spindleclutch.
nerevarine1138 wrote: »I love that this thread is right next to a thread about how DKs got nerfed.
Thanks for taking this community one step closer to WoW by posting constant complaints about how [x] class is underpowered.
ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »We're working on an update post on the Nightblade class. We should have it today.
GreasedLizard wrote: »How does casting a buff or debuff that does not cause aggro in any way while hidden constitute entering combat? Entering combat is when you initiate aggro, not the use of a skill.GreasedLizard wrote: »...
Mark Target is not broken. It's just PvE mobs have 5-7.5% resistance, so the trade-off is pointless other than a Spell Power Buff + heal (not debuff) Can test within PvP with a friend to verify debuff values.
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Entering combat will always negate your stealth damage bonus and only register as a critical hit.
I never enter combat, unless I am within aggro range while buffing. You will lose stealth and start crouching again. The 3 sec delay in crouch to fully hidden (this bonus) can be done while popping Shadow Cloak while moving into position.
kunchoktashiiub17_ESO wrote: »gotta go take a nightblade be right back
rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »ckf12b14_ESO wrote: »DK's got shield bash nerf (whichthey primarily used), Talon nerf (abused in PvP), and an upcoming huge Banner ult nerf (heavily abused in PvP).
I agree that Nightblades are getting the shaft right now, but let's not claim things that aren't true about other classes in our anger.
That's because those abilities were incredibly overpowered.
NB's aren't and still get the shaft.
GreasedLizard wrote: »@dragnier
I haven't tested those buffs. Extensively tested Resto buffs, although I use Cloak a ton to move in. Maybe buff - start crouch - Cloak - position and see if you land big Veiled Strike
ckf12b14_ESO wrote: »rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »ckf12b14_ESO wrote: »DK's got shield bash nerf (whichthey primarily used), Talon nerf (abused in PvP), and an upcoming huge Banner ult nerf (heavily abused in PvP).
I agree that Nightblades are getting the shaft right now, but let's not claim things that aren't true about other classes in our anger.
That's because those abilities were incredibly overpowered.
NB's aren't and still get the shaft.
I know that? The OP claimed that NB's got a nerf (they did, which I don't think is fair as I stated) and that DKs got a buff (they didn't, they got nerfed, as they should have). That's what I was referring to when I said "don't claim things that aren't true".
While I love my Nightblade, the fact that our broken class got a nerf as a priority in craglorn over fixing the 10+ broken skills and passives says a lot. Nightblade crit builds were one of the few ways a NB could have fun in PvP and PvE, and now the best part of that build is gone too.
SO while DKs and sorcs have there run of the game right now, the most broken class gets basically ignored.
If anyone knows me, I've been a huge advocate for this game. I've defended it at almost every turn. But its very demoralizing when i see how you (ZoS) prioritize your content and updates. I'm betting we see the invisibility exploit in PvE fixed before we see passives fixed (wasted skill points FYI)
I wont say much more, I'm not one to tell anyone how to do their jobs. I just hope you guys get a balancing patch out ASAP, currently the state of balance is...for lack of a better word...broken. I refuse to make the FOTM class, i love PvP but I will not roll a DK just to do well in it. I'm not unskilled, but i have a really hard time justifying my time in PvP when i cant take out a DK or Sorc with the same cookie cutter builds as the rest of them, and they win simply because of that build.
I'm tired, I'm tired of defending a game who wont defend themselves. The devs are way too quiet about **everything**. We (the gamers) are the reason you'll stay in business, I'd highly recommend interacting with us.
pavelcherepanskyrwb17_ESO wrote: »SO while DKs and sorcs have there run of the game right now, the most broken class gets basically ignored.
You haven't read 1.1.2 notes properly, have you? DK had shield bash nerfed which is a big thing. Both damage and stamina reduction have been decreased.
I agree that NB is broken ATM but see if it works better after the update
ckf12b14_ESO wrote: »rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »ckf12b14_ESO wrote: »DK's got shield bash nerf (whichthey primarily used), Talon nerf (abused in PvP), and an upcoming huge Banner ult nerf (heavily abused in PvP).
I agree that Nightblades are getting the shaft right now, but let's not claim things that aren't true about other classes in our anger.
That's because those abilities were incredibly overpowered.
NB's aren't and still get the shaft.
I know that? The OP claimed that NB's got a nerf (they did, which I don't think is fair as I stated) and that DKs got a buff (they didn't, they got nerfed, as they should have). That's what I was referring to when I said "don't claim things that aren't true".
I wasn't clear. The few DK bugs they had were fixed, most of those bugs increased the damage of said spells. Yes they got a nerf, but if anything they're on par with sorcs now, still more powerful than a NB/temp
monkeymystic wrote: »I have NOT made this video, it's from the user "medakonable" on Youtube.
But it shows a Nightblade SOLO Veteran spindleclutch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNESCiD5Wt0
jvargas150_ESO wrote: »
Stop lying... he isn't able to get past the 2nd boss not enough dps.. hench why the recording stop prior to that
Hm todays fixs hardly seem like a nerf infact they seem to have fixed us a great deal. The change to Death Stroke was the only "nerf" and really it was just fixing it to what it was suppose to be. Overall, I welcome the fixes for us in todays patch.
Nightblade
Fixed an issue that was causing Nightblade abilities to become unresponsive in high-intensity combat situations. This issue is caused by a number of factors, and we will continue to monitor it after this patch.
Catalyst: Fixed an issue with the Catalyst passive ability. It will now properly increase the effect of speed potions.
Dark Shades (Summon Shade morph): This ability now deals more damage as the ability ranks up.
Death Stroke: This ability no longer receives the critical damage bonus when used as a sneak attack. It will still cause a stun and a guaranteed critical hit.
Focused Attacks: Fixed an issue where ranks II – IV of Focused Attacks were not restoring stamina.
Sap Essence (Drain Power morph): Fixed an issue where this ability wasn’t granting the initial Weapon Damage bonus you should receive when no target is hit.
You mean the reduction of ultimate generation of Drain Power and the nerf to S&B that makes the NB tanks quite a bit weaker? Or do you mean the nerf to destro staff that will make siphoning attacks destro staff build a pain?
ckf12b14_ESO wrote: »I don't think you're really getting what I'm saying. I think Nightblades got unfairly nerfed and they honestly deserved a buff, more so now than ever. But look at the title of the thread itself. OP claimed DK's got a buff. They didn't. They got nerfed in the gut.
ckf12b14_ESO wrote: »I don't think you're really getting what I'm saying. I think Nightblades got unfairly nerfed and they honestly deserved a buff, more so now than ever. But look at the title of the thread itself. OP claimed DK's got a buff. They didn't. They got nerfed in the gut.
Huge nerf to DK (laff). Now they can just annihilate 3 players at once instead of 12 at once. It's fine. My V5 NB is on the shelf. I'm leveling up a DK & Scorcerer as the game requires for any that enjoy PVP. Will get old though with just two classes viable in pvp.
While I love my Nightblade, the fact that our broken class got a nerf as a priority in craglorn over fixing the 10+ broken skills and passives says a lot. Nightblade crit builds were one of the few ways a NB could have fun in PvP and PvE, and now the best part of that build is gone too.
SO while DKs and sorcs have there run of the game right now, the most broken class gets basically ignored.
If anyone knows me, I've been a huge advocate for this game. I've defended it at almost every turn. But its very demoralizing when i see how you (ZoS) prioritize your content and updates. I'm betting we see the invisibility exploit in PvE fixed before we see passives fixed (wasted skill points FYI)
I wont say much more, I'm not one to tell anyone how to do their jobs. I just hope you guys get a balancing patch out ASAP, currently the state of balance is...for lack of a better word...broken. I refuse to make the FOTM class, i love PvP but I will not roll a DK just to do well in it. I'm not unskilled, but i have a really hard time justifying my time in PvP when i cant take out a DK or Sorc with the same cookie cutter builds as the rest of them, and they win simply because of that build.
I'm tired, I'm tired of defending a game who wont defend themselves. The devs are way too quiet about **everything**. We (the gamers) are the reason you'll stay in business, I'd highly recommend interacting with us.
jvargas150_ESO wrote: »monkeymystic wrote: »I have NOT made this video, it's from the user "medakonable" on Youtube.
But it shows a Nightblade SOLO Veteran spindleclutch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNESCiD5Wt0
Stop lying... he isn't able to get past the 2nd boss not enough dps.. hench why the recording stop prior to that
ckf12b14_ESO wrote: »ckf12b14_ESO wrote: »I don't think you're really getting what I'm saying. I think Nightblades got unfairly nerfed and they honestly deserved a buff, more so now than ever. But look at the title of the thread itself. OP claimed DK's got a buff. They didn't. They got nerfed in the gut.
Huge nerf to DK (laff). Now they can just annihilate 3 players at once instead of 12 at once. It's fine. My V5 NB is on the shelf. I'm leveling up a DK & Scorcerer as the game requires for any that enjoy PVP. Will get old though with just two classes viable in pvp.
Can any of you people read?
I would call being able to take down a zergfest and now only being able to wreck 3-4 players a big nerf, yeah. DK's are still top tier and are in line for many more balances and nerfs, and NB's are still bottom tier and wholly deserving of many fixes and buffs (and not these uncalled for nerfs).