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Re: Natch potes netch pots potch newts
R U just willfully trying to be confusing posting these where no one has been looking for them? There is a clear and understandable system and choosing not to adhere to that is… I give up!
When has anyone at ZOS ever thought of the players before instituting their genius changes?
When has anyone at ZOS ever thought of the players before instituting their genius changes?
One more nail for class identity. No leader boards for classes.
This feels like the final blow for a competitive aspect to classes. No reason to run vma on different classes to see where it stacks up. No reason the change characters to run the weekly multiple times. No reason to have different builds on different classes because the scores will be lost to those who beam. This one hurts more than it should.
Re: [REQUEST] Permanent Vengeance Test Campaign
Comparing No CP to vengeance is comparing apples to the rock of Gibraltar. Vengeance is a totally different, templated version and will remain that way. There will never be the same gear sets or toon building that live has in any iteration of vengeance. It's a totally different game mode played on the same map as live.
What ZOS is saying about vengeance and what they're doing are not aligning. They're saying vengeance is just a test, but everything they're doing is acting like vengeance will be the future of Cyrodiil PvP.
I understand there is a steep learning curve to be competitive in PvP. But those who want to PvP put in the time and effort and eventually get it figured out. Those who give up after getting rolled a few times will never figure it out because they give up too easily.
It somehow bugs my brain to see Gibraltar and Cyrodiil in the same post. Could that be the Rock of Sejanus or another famous rock of Tamriel?
Anyways, I was talking about NO PROC and PROC being two different rulesets that existed alongside for a couple of years. This is to say ZOS has a history of supporting two modes, and there's no reason that I can think of to believe that it will never happen again.
In another thread, I said that despite no-proc players telling proc players to jump ships if they want to enjoy a ballgroup-free environment, there was no influx of players leaving GH to relax in RW. I assume that there won't be no GH regulars switching to Vengeance just to avoid ballgroups either.
Vengeance test isn't over yet. I have not read or heard so far that December's iteration is the final one. I hope to see sets enabled at some point, although they will probably work differently than the sets we have in game right now.
I agree that Vengeance appears to be more than a test, at this stage it also looks like developing a new mode. I fully understand the anxiety of GH regulars - I was a no proc RW regular not so long ago.
But to say with that much certainty that Vengeance will be the future of Cyrodiil PvP... There are around 800 sets scattered across the game, and that includes DLC content. The whole game revolves around sets and builds. What will PvP players spend their money on if they don't need that latest fancy set from a DLC dungeon or a new OP mythic anymore? There are only so many shiny mounts and weapons PvPers must get to satisfy their vanity. Taking sets away from PvP doesn't look like a viable business plan.
Money-wise, it makes more sense to enable additional campaign for Vengeance enthusiasts and, if current PvP is broken beyond hope, also leave life Cyrodill in its current form for GH enthusiasts.
Make both modes available. Earn money from the current PvP regulars AND potentially from returning players who prefer a simpler mode.
Re: [REQUEST] Permanent Vengeance Test Campaign
MincMincMinc wrote: »If they really test them alongside each other, thats finally the first representative Vengeance test. If there is only one campaign of course everyone would be in that one campaign, with the choice given we will see how popular Vengeance actually is among those who regulary play PvP.
Well the vengeance 4 test 2nd week overlapping with live will show what is preferred GH or vengeance. Since it is the 2nd week hopefully enough event people will leave and give better data on which is preferred. Will GH survive if all the pugs decide to stay in vengeance? Who knows, at that point GH probably just becomes a 12v12v12 bg match of ball groups with 1vX players sitting around bored with nothing to do.....which is basically what live is most nights.
Regardless of preference or not vengeance development would still be needed for performance data, zos needs it as a tool to turn on and off systems. Ideally vengeance is only used to develop new systems one at a time and then implemented into live pvp. For instance they already reworked the unmorphed skill code, once you finish making morphs you could replace the bloated poorly coded live skills.
You think vengeance is taking place to pinpoint performance issues so they can apply what they've learned to fix live cyrodiil? Why haven't we seen any performance improvements on live then?
Vengeance is a test within itself. It's testing what they have to do to roll out vengeance on a permanent basis.
They have only done two baseline tests......the only thing you could extract was that the addition of resto and support lines with aoe group stacking tools had SOME impact on the server ASSUMING that zos was not fiddling in the background. Even with this good data if zos wasnt fiddling, it doesnt disprove that all the other systems are not also contributing to performance issues. Thus you would continue testing.
What other sort of performance impacts can you conclude from the current 2 tests that you think should have been implemented onto live?
Re: You can rollback a feature of the game. You choose:
Gotta be subclassing for me. Every man and his dog is running a warden in Cyrodiil with that godawful charm, assassination, animal companion and storm calling. So boring
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Re: What's up with the outfit design? Pauldrons, tassets, and faulds keep being thrown on everything
@ZOS_Kevin
Ok but seriously, who decided a DRESS needed hip guards and pauldrons? Who keeps deciding these things need to be on 90% of cosmetics?
It's not like it's been a secret that the playerbase dislikes them. We've been asking for literal years for a way to hide them, and for them to NOT be included in just about every Costume/Style/Motif. Yet time and again we get stuff like this dress.
It gets even more baffling because surely it takes more time and resources to render things with these unwanted additions than without them, so...why is it still happening so often?
Mind you my irritation isn't directed at you, but strictly at those who continue to disregard what so many have been asking for for so long
Ok but seriously, who decided a DRESS needed hip guards and pauldrons? Who keeps deciding these things need to be on 90% of cosmetics?
It's not like it's been a secret that the playerbase dislikes them. We've been asking for literal years for a way to hide them, and for them to NOT be included in just about every Costume/Style/Motif. Yet time and again we get stuff like this dress.
It gets even more baffling because surely it takes more time and resources to render things with these unwanted additions than without them, so...why is it still happening so often?
Mind you my irritation isn't directed at you, but strictly at those who continue to disregard what so many have been asking for for so long
Arunei
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Re: Siege Damage
WaywardArgonian wrote: »WaywardArgonian wrote: »Siege damage is already ridiculously powerful.
Too bad it’s not powerful at all against ball groups, lol.
Yeah it is. A big enough siege defense at the right time can prevent almost any ballgroup from entering a keep. Nearly every wipe of a ballgroup that doesn't involve another ballgroup happens with the crucial aid of siege damage.
People just seem to expect to hit a ballgroup with one coldfire and get frustrated when it doesn't immediately wipe them.
Gotta disagree. I’m not expecting to wipe them. However, when you’re hitting them over and over again with cold fires and the healthbars don’t move, that’s a problem
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Re: What's up with the outfit design? Pauldrons, tassets, and faulds keep being thrown on everything
I hate them with a vengeance and they make no sense at all. 
