This was a problem in PTS but was fixed - @Trenia can you pop up some values so that we can see?

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom - did the Thaumaturge fix make it into the console patch?

Thought as much. My templar cannot get through round 3 on vma at all. I'm just too weak. My stam nightblade just cut through everything. Either that or they buffed thier spell res and lowered physical res of everything in there.

This is worrying. That's Templar bread n' butter. Can anyone else confirm this? With data, ideally? I mostly tank so I won't notice much of a change in dps output. Unless it's truly abysmal.

Oh, make sure you reallocated you CP, too, since I think those were reset. You probably did. But it's worth mentioning anyway.

Unfortunately I don't expect ZOS to lift a finger on this, "console" is in the title of the thread.

Did you all create a ticket on the console?
I'm finding that just discussing it only allows the community to talk about it but if you want actions taken, everyone needs to create a ticket.

Just sharing as I just got a response on the Xbox one crashing issues.
I think if you're using the stamina based morph it does significantly less damage as its based on weapon damage. My spell damage is higher so I chose the magic based and its waaay higher.

Just sharing...

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Panth141 wrote: »

This was a problem in PTS but was fixed - @Trenia can you pop up some values so that we can see?

Did the Thaumaturge fix make it into the console patch?

There was a fix for Thaumaturge that went in with the Dark Brotherhood update on all platforms. Here is the note (and known issue):

The Ritual
Thaumaturge: Fixed an issue where this Champion ability was increasing the damage of various non-damage over time effects, such as Daedric Curse or Magicka Detonation.
Known Issue: This champion passive is not increasing the tooltip values of some area of effect ticking abilities, such as Ash Cloud or Path of Darkness. However, the actual damage values are being increased.

May we get a few more details about what you're encountering since today's patch?

We were told that "fix" was never meant to apply to jabs and sweeps. PC players jabs/sweeps are scaling with thaum, and console is not. I am not sure what else to tell you beyond that.

Panth141 wrote: »

@Trenia

I don't have a stamplar but I do have a brand new magplar, just ran tests taking advantage of the CP reset:

No CP, non-crit: 1074 (or was it 1094?)

30 CP in thaum, non-crit: 1134

So it definitely is working on puncturing sweeps on PS4; I can't speak for jabs.

Did you distribute those points elsewhere? Or did you just take them out of thaum. You lose stats if you have unallocated CP that will cause a dmg difference. with 75 pts in thaum on a magicka build my sweeps are hitting 4484. With 75 pts in mighty, my sweeps are also hitting for 4484. I have a feeling you didn't allocate those points. I doubt the bug would be exclusive to xbox.

Trenia wrote: »

Panth141 wrote: »

@Trenia

I don't have a stamplar but I do have a brand new magplar, just ran tests taking advantage of the CP reset:

No CP, non-crit: 1074 (or was it 1094?)

30 CP in thaum, non-crit: 1134

So it definitely is working on puncturing sweeps on PS4; I can't speak for jabs.

Did you distribute those points elsewhere? Or did you just take them out of thaum. You lose stats if you have unallocated CP that will cause a dmg difference. with 75 pts in thaum on a magicka build my sweeps are hitting 4484. With 75 pts in mighty, my sweeps are also hitting for 4484. I have a feeling you didn't allocate those points. I doubt the bug would be exclusive to xbox.

I did distribute mine and I'm magic based and its a bump up but maybe Stam isn't the way to go based on the changes

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Templar has a broken skill?

They fixed focused charge so fast though, we should be fine...

No kidding, and Wrobel tricked us by saying that Templar will be getting a buff called ritual of retribution, however the aoe grants cc immunity. And the reactive armor procs from the aoe, and also fallsalas guile. @Wrobel Why do you always forsake the Templar? Are you trying to get everyone to play a stamina nightblade?

Maybe they should boost stamina players more. Just get rid of magica all together

elium85 wrote: »

Please fix this. I'm so tired of trying to figure out which class is the least broken every update.

It seems like Templar has been the meta for the most broken class or nerfed every update for awhile now.

N0TPLAYER2 wrote: »

Tham doesn't increase sweeps right? It's magic damage right?

Sweeps are white and yellow, not orange. So I put nothing into tham, and get 1100-1200 per sweep without crits. When critting I am seeing 5k-7k sometimes lol. So tham doesn't increase damage, right?

It used to before thieves guild but it's been changed, right?? Lol

Sweeps has both been buffed by elemental expert and thaumaturge before. It is a magicka based skill (elemental expert) and a channeled ability (thaumaturge)

@N0TPLAYER2

ZoS have previously gone on the record stating that puncturing strikes and morphs should be buffed by Thaumaturge.


@danno8

Yep - all of my above values are actual damage on actual enemies


@Molag_Crow

... I thought that this may be of interest to you! I'd be grateful if you could double check, too.

@danno8 I think that's ZOS's latest gold sink: respec's to test what's broken in game.