Campaign camped by one Vampire DK Emperor

  • Niminion
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Niminion wrote: »
    I stand at range nuking for 5-10 seconds while the DK chews up all in melee, then I have to stop when my spells start to reflect back at me, then I get charged and killed in a couple seconds.

    Stop... trying... to... melee... a... dragonknight.

    Triple the above line if its a vampire using the devouring swarm morph of batswarm ultimate.

    Quintuple it if its the current Emperor.

    How hard is this to understand.

    The more people nearby the more he can heal.

    GET THE HELL AWAY FROM HIM AND STAY AWAY. Range kite. Easy as hell concept. Apparently impossible for some people to do.

    What? I am the one standing at range watching my spells do no damage and then they bounce back at me...
    Edited by Niminion on May 22, 2014 1:46PM
  • reggielee
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    empty campaigns are a testament to a broken pvp, mainly use of exploits, outright cheats and lack of desired features such as exp gain, more variety to campaigns and glitches.

    alot of interested players have left pvp for good if not the whole game

    the fixes have come too late to repair the damage to the brand name, which sucks as the game itself is pretty good. they really need to step up the patching and be more responsive and vocal about listening to the players
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  • blackweb
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    reggielee wrote: »
    empty campaigns are a testament to a broken pvp, mainly use of exploits, outright cheats and lack of desired features such as exp gain, more variety to campaigns and glitches.

    alot of interested players have left pvp for good if not the whole game

    the fixes have come too late to repair the damage to the brand name, which sucks as the game itself is pretty good. they really need to step up the patching and be more responsive and vocal about listening to the players

    Truth. It is a shame because Cyrodil PvP is not that far from where it needs to be. The design is fundamentally sound. They just need to adjust some mechanics involving faction balance by incentivizing the underdog to fight, tone down Emperor and Vampires.

    I have not given up on Cyrodill PvP but it is clear that it is on life support with so many empty campaigns. Some suggestions:

    - Provide incentives for the out-numbered faction to fight in the forum of bonus AP, exp, special quest objectives, buffs etc.
    - Tone down emporer buffs.
    - Periodically reset the campaign maps and scrolls so the aren't all one color all the time, maybe once a week.
    - Tone down AE abilities.
    - Increase the average time to kill (TTK) in Cyrodill.
    - Discourage camping by reducing AP and exp for killing the same player(s) over and over again or staying in the same area all the time.

    My concern is not for the very small minority of players who spend all their time in Cyrodill. I am concerned about new or inexperienced players who go to Cyrodill and their first experience being completely dominated by a small number of enemy players. Or they find that their starting area is camped by enemy players and that they cant get out and there is no incentive for anyone to come and help them as the enemy faction has all the scroll buffs or even an emperor who is impossible to kill.

    I do like the intro to cyrodill quests, they are very good. The current gaming experience in cyrodill is not a good one for most new players, almost from the moment they step out of the starting area. This needs to change asap. For me, building a new pvp guild is difficult when the experience is so bad and morale is low because new players refuse to go back to cyrodill again. Zenimax, please make cyrodill pvp fun for everyone.
  • FENGRUSH
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    Niminion wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    Niminion wrote: »
    I stand at range nuking for 5-10 seconds while the DK chews up all in melee, then I have to stop when my spells start to reflect back at me, then I get charged and killed in a couple seconds.

    Stop... trying... to... melee... a... dragonknight.

    Triple the above line if its a vampire using the devouring swarm morph of batswarm ultimate.

    Quintuple it if its the current Emperor.

    How hard is this to understand.

    The more people nearby the more he can heal.

    GET THE HELL AWAY FROM HIM AND STAY AWAY. Range kite. Easy as hell concept. Apparently impossible for some people to do.

    What? I am the one standing at range watching my spells do no damage and then they bounce back at me...

    Thats what happens when you use projectiles at a DK who just used the reflect skill that looks like dragon wings (its painfully obvious to see when it occurs). While it is entirely annoying to deal with, you can simply use non-projectile skills to kill them while they stand there blocking hoping to reflect something onto you.
  • SeinSchatten
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    Niminion wrote: »
    Every day I watch this happen with DKs aoe'ing groups of players and then they still have the resources to go 1v1 with anyone that is left over. I stand at range nuking for 5-10 seconds while the DK chews up all in melee, then I have to stop when my spells start to reflect back at me, then I get charged and killed in a couple seconds. Even in a 20 man vet group we get charged by a single DK and then must res 5,6,7 people after he finally goes down. Add this to dead and unbalanced Cyrodiil servers and ESO is bleeding pvp players every single day.

    Bottom line I would never recommend ESO to anyone looking to pvp. It is a pve game and well done in that area, if you take your time to enjoy it and don't just try to power level.





    Stop... trying... to... melee... a... dragonknight.

    Triple the above line if its a vampire using the devouring swarm morph of batswarm ultimate.

    Quintuple it if its the current Emperor.

    How hard is this to understand.

    The more people nearby the more he can heal.

    GET THE HELL AWAY FROM HIM AND STAY AWAY. Range kite. Easy as hell concept. Apparently impossible for some people to do.

    Addendum - You actually want a small group for a DK/Vamp emp. Five man at the most. Seriously. And preferably fast movers.

    Is it so hard to understand? He has played Planetside. He knows how world pvp works.
    Edited by SeinSchatten on May 22, 2014 2:59PM
  • blackweb
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    Is it so hard to understand? He has played Planetside. He knows how world pvp works.

    I will assume you are not being sarcastic :pensive:

    I have led PvP in

    Planetside 1
    WoW
    WAR
    AoC
    Aion
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    SWTOR
    Guild Wars 2
    Planetside 2
    ESO

    ESO, GW2 and PS2 all have a lot of things in common. I think that PS2 and GW2 are the best implementations of World PvP at this time.
  • Armitas
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    The only reasonable strategy I have seen amidst all the trolling and glib responses is that of range, and that smaller numbers make it easier.

    That small numbers make it easier is due to the fact that there are less people to generate ultimates on which would intern replenish the DKs, health, stam, magic.

    While range is certainly a typical DK strategy it is the case that reflective scales will reflect both spell projectiles and some bow skills back at the attacker. RS currently causes the DK to eat the cost of the cast but that is less of a problem for an emperor DK. The DK, or anyone really, can also heal or reflect from the 1h/s line if he doesn't want to eat the extra cost. It is also the case that while you are at range the DK can pull you in from 22meters, or shield charge you and remove the range gap.

    So even though ranging is the most prudent strategy under the circumstances it is clear there is no room for these glib, trollish, supercilious responses.

    One should be mindful that just because you can come up with something on paper doesn't mean it actually works in application. Whether on paper or reality there is no warrant for trollish behavior.
    Edited by Armitas on May 22, 2014 6:56PM
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  • Gloran
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    Learn, adapt, evolve.
    Stop blaming your failure on mechanics.
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    Gloran wrote: »
    @blackweb‌
    Learn, adapt, evolve.
    Stop blaming your failure on mechanics.

    If you ask me, causal players will adapt and move to other game. Challange is good thing, but broken mechanic is not. You can not have class or ability that will make you kill entire army. If it will make you strong so you can kill 2 players at once I am ok with that. But having something that just goes and kills entire army is nonsence. So he is basicaly x times stronger than deadric prince himself.

    That is pathetic.

  • FENGRUSH
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    Gloran wrote: »
    @blackweb‌
    Learn, adapt, evolve.
    Stop blaming your failure on mechanics.

    If you ask me, causal players will adapt and move to other game. Challange is good thing, but broken mechanic is not. You can not have class or ability that will make you kill entire army. If it will make you strong so you can kill 2 players at once I am ok with that. But having something that just goes and kills entire army is nonsence. So he is basicaly x times stronger than deadric prince himself.

    That is pathetic.

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  • Armitas
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    Gloran wrote: »
    @blackweb‌
    Learn, adapt, evolve.
    Stop blaming your failure on mechanics.

    You accuse him of blaming and yet you yourself are blaming him. You spice up your hypocrisy with L2P Trollsauce to make a fine dish worthy of any trash can.

    Beyond your self refutation, and trolling your argument is easily made invalid on necessity because game mechanics can and do lead to failure. As we saw on release it was the game mechanics that led to many players failure to continue the main story of the game. Those players are in no way culpable for their failure.

    I think you will have to make an actual effort here. Trolling, self refutation, and invalid premises do accomplish something but not anything in your favor.
    Edited by Armitas on May 22, 2014 4:49PM
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  • Zafu
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    "Stop trying to melee a DK"

    Too funny. They get chain pulls and with weapon abilities "rush" to target and stun, AOE roots, etc etc and yea, all players are dumb and just need to stay at range from a DK? Stop the BS. DK's need the nerf hammer big time and this 1.2 patch doesn't scratch the surface.
  • galiumb16_ESO
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    blackweb wrote: »
    I think that PS2 and GW2 are the best implementations of World PvP at this time.

    Not sure about PS2, but that statement with GW2 explains a lot of why your 16 man got wiped repeatedly by one guy.

    At what month in GW2 did your elite fighting force master the art of stacking?
  • FENGRUSH
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    Zafu wrote: »
    "Stop trying to melee a DK"

    Too funny. They get chain pulls and with weapon abilities "rush" to target and stun, AOE roots, etc etc and yea, all players are dumb and just need to stay at range from a DK? Stop the BS. DK's need the nerf hammer big time and this 1.2 patch doesn't scratch the surface.

    No one will disagree with you that DK is too well rounded. You can deal with these players, but you do fight at a disadvantage not being a DK yourself.
  • Kralous
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Zafu wrote: »
    "Stop trying to melee a DK"

    Too funny. They get chain pulls and with weapon abilities "rush" to target and stun, AOE roots, etc etc and yea, all players are dumb and just need to stay at range from a DK? Stop the BS. DK's need the nerf hammer big time and this 1.2 patch doesn't scratch the surface.

    No one will disagree with you that DK is too well rounded. You can deal with these players, but you do fight at a disadvantage not being a DK yourself.

    And in three months when the only players left have all rerolled deathknights for their ability to survive everything PvP and PvE, the game can assume its true name of Death Knights Online.

    Long Live DKO.
  • ChairGraveyard
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    Haha.

    So now who is laughing? All the vampire players told you guys that the vampire nerf didn't fix ultimate cost reduction issues and being able to spam bat swarm.

    Yet you acted like jerks and pretended we all wanted to exploit bat swarm, despite dozens of threads pointing out ultimate cost reduction as the true problem, and the vampire nerf as being ineffective and mostly nerfing PvE.

    But nooooo, reading is way too hard, so you had to go trolling and act like the vampire nerf fixed everything.

    TOLD YOU SO! HAHA
  • Gloran
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    @Armitas‌
    He explicitly rejected all advice and constructive critique, demanding a change because he opposes any process of adapting.
    So if I may oppose, i'm not being hypocritical. There are multiple ways of dealing with the situation he was facing. Demanding others to solve it, is just the lamest way of handling it.
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  • RingobloodtheOld
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    blackweb wrote: »
    Avidus wrote: »
    I gotta agree, you are doing something wrong.
    It sounds like you might just be zerging keeps with a small group.

    Try something like having 2 people open siege on a keep, have 6 people start capping resources around that keep, send the other 8 to another keep.

    Your opponent is a Vampire, use the obvious fire. Use a fire ballista, even a meat catapult.
    They are a DK who use quite a lot of AoE, I am guessing this person jumped in snared your whole group and AoE killed most of them very quickly.
    This is why you can slowly cap flags, keep your players spread out send your tanks to cap keep flags.
    To ensure that the DK cannot AoE snare make sure to ROLL out of the snare so you do not get immediately re-snared.

    Vampire DKs have an illusion of being really over powered, but that being said they have quite obvious strategies and weaknesses.
    But a single player canWenot stop a group from taking keeps, its impossible.

    The statement "zerging keeps with a small group" is a contradiction.

    The issue isn't tactics or strategy. There is no way to effectively counter a Vampire DK emperor with a small group of much weaker players. When you look at the V10, DK, Vampire, Emperor and scroll buffs combined, the advantage is overwhelming and the character becomes un-killable by anything but a very strong group of V10s which we did not have.

    Rolling out of snares, spreading out, trying to range him, spamming massive heals, none of those things worked. There was only one way to survive, and that was to run and hide. He would walk right into the middle of us and start playing music, allowing us to attack him for several seconds, then he killed us all. He was completely unconcerned about dying and not in the least bit afraid if us because he knew that none of us could kill him. He destroyed our siege and there was nothing we could do to stop him.

    Having 2 people siege a keep is suicide. There were a few other ADs there and less than a group of DCs, The DCs were hiding and camping shards and lorebooks. They were useless. The few AD that were there would have been strong enough to kill a small group of DC sieging a keep if we had split up. We could handle the few other AD that were there but the Vampire DK Emperor was impossible.

    Blackweb, its obvious you dont know how this style of PvP works, i read all the strat here and your still fixated on killing; this PvP is not kill kill kill, its strategy (take keeps, resources, ect) if you want to kill, go back to swtor. 16 ppl can destroy and win in a campaign with strat.
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  • Armitas
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    Gloran wrote: »
    @Armitas‌
    He explicitly rejected all advice and constructive critique, demanding a change because he opposes any process of adapting.
    So if I may oppose, i'm not being hypocritical. There are multiple ways of dealing with the situation he was facing. Demanding others to solve it, is just the lamest way of handling it.

    Why not speak like this? Seeing your post now and the one before I would think I am talking to two different people. This is the way to go about it. :)

    I think only a portion of the advice/critique was constructive. Of that advice I think people far overestimate it's viability, it's the most prudent but it is easily subverted. I definitely did not see any advice that would show the mechanic is balanced. I only play a DK and I must agree with the prevalent notion that we are imbalanced* even before emperor.

    (regarding banner/talons)
    Edited by Armitas on May 22, 2014 6:55PM
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  • blackweb
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    Blackweb, its obvious you dont know how this style of PvP works, i read all the strat here and your still fixated on killing; this PvP is not kill kill kill, its strategy (take keeps, resources, ect) if you want to kill, go back to swtor. 16 ppl can destroy and win in a campaign with strat.

    @RingobloodtheOld‌ it is obvious that you don't know what I know about PvP. No pvp guild I have ever led has been "fixated on killing" including our ESO guild. We have always been objective-oriented. ESO is no exception. We were trying to take keeps and grab scrolls. We did not skip any resource objectives.

    To understand Phoenix Battalion PvP, come to PS2 PHX OPFOR live-fire training (against veteran members of our outfit playing as the enemy factions) every Saturday during prime time. We are the only PS2 outfit that conducts live fire OPFOR training on a weekly basis that I know of. Our training is objective and team-oriented. We heavily stress the use of support classes (engineers who repair armor and supply ammo and medics who heal and rez) Getting kills is always secondary to attacking or defending the objective. One of our favorite things to do is to pit two squads against each other, each one with a spawn beacon, then we play capture-the-bacon(yes, we call it bacon, not beacon). The team that destroys the other teams beacon first wins.

    I think that it is safe to say that you have nothing to teach me about PvP guild leadership, organization, tactics or strategy.

    Edited by blackweb on May 22, 2014 6:40PM
  • blackweb
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    Gloran wrote: »
    @Armitas‌
    He explicitly rejected all advice and constructive critique, demanding a change because he opposes any process of adapting.
    So if I may oppose, i'm not being hypocritical. There are multiple ways of dealing with the situation he was facing. Demanding others to solve it, is just the lamest way of handling it.

    I am all for adapting to anything but a single player wiping the floor with large groups.

  • RazzPitazz
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    Yeah when you get in close to DK, you are only helping them more then helping yourself.

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  • galiumb16_ESO
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    Niminion wrote: »
    Every day I watch this happen with DKs aoe'ing groups of players and then they still have the resources to go 1v1 with anyone that is left over. I stand at range nuking for 5-10 seconds while the DK chews up all in melee, then I have to stop when my spells start to reflect back at me, then I get charged and killed in a couple seconds. Even in a 20 man vet group we get charged by a single DK and then must res 5,6,7 people after he finally goes down. Add this to dead and unbalanced Cyrodiil servers and ESO is bleeding pvp players every single day.

    The issue is that regardless of how OP the DK and its combinations with vamp and emp may or may not be, when you folks post your examples that make your group look incompetent, your credibility on the topic goes out the window.
  • Milf_Hero
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    blackweb wrote: »
    I am Blackweb, leader of Phoenix Battalion, a 3000+ member multi-gaming community with guilds in Guild Wars 2, SWTOR, Planetside 2 and ESO. I have been leading large-scale pvp for more than 10 years. Our PS2 outfit has over 1500 members. We regularly have 100+ members online during prime time in PS2 organized down to the platoon and squad level. In one recent alert, the TR and VS factions stopped fighting each other just to counter Phoenix Battalion and our 3 platoons. To say the least, we know what we are doing in world pvp.

    Our current campaign, Hopesfire is dead so we are looking for a new campaign. We tried out Volendrung sunday night. We went in with about 16 gulid members, all on TeamSpeak together, some lowbies, some veterans. We were very organized with multiple strong healers.

    While assaulting an AD keep that contained a scroll, we encountered the AD Vampire Emperor DK. The AD had all of the scrolls on the map. In a matter of seconds, he easily wiped all of us. Even our strongest veterans could not kill him, our healers could not heal through his damage. We went to another keep, he showed up there with the same result. Game over, we quit the campaign and have no plans to return.

    We had one geared sorcerer healer that almost killed him. He got him down to 5% but ran out of steam before he could kill him. The Vampire DK Emperors health regeneration was insane. He could stand still, take damage and out-regen everyone's damage but our most geared sorcerer. Then it became a resource race that the sorcerer lost because of the combination of stacking buffs on the Vampire DK Emporer with full scroll and Cyrodill buffs. Just too much.


    I play in Volendrung. My home campaign. I am in the guild that runs with the Emperor if AD does have the keeps to get it. He is not a vampire. hasn't been in a long time. He had it for a day and dropped that sh*t like a hot potato. Even when he was a vampire which was before I was in his guild, it wasn't even the month of may. SOOOO all you idiots that run into a good DK who automatically think they are vampires are r*tards. Sorry for the name calling but it kinda pisses me off a little. You need to pick up your skill to compete. Blackweb you said you brought in 16 people, some lowbies? well automatically count those people as useless cannon fodder. Specially if this was like their third or fourth time out in cryodiil. secondly, some vets? Were they good? because even some vets out there have barely pvp'd as well. If you come in fresh off that PvE n*pple then you gonna find its hard to run against people that aren't NPCs. But back to the emperor, he is a DK. Built to fight groups. Its a good thing he is so strong because the AD side (which he plays for) has barely any one on it. Most nights we can barely get 10-15 people on. Let me repeate, BARELY 10-15. So we are looking at an average of 8 people for sure. While DC brings in full raid groups or split groups. Even if we go to fight one of those split groups, even that group has more numbers than who we have on atm. So we need good players. players that can fight uneven numbers. EP barely tries anything. They have about as many numbers as AD did. Not until l8ly because guess what they did? Brought in bunch of f*cking vet 10 guest-ers to take the whole map and while using exploited bugs like the caltrop to block AoE damage from siege and player skills. Ill have to be a little bit more specific in their group make up. It had various ranks in them but you could find at least 5 vet tens in the groups they had with most of them being over vet 5. There was about 40 maybe 50 EP guest-ers vs 15 AD and the 20 DC that might have been on that night. That was on the 20th of may. We the AD of volendrung, our home campaign are at the top of the leaderboard because THIS is our home campaign. DC may zerg us, EP may zerg us, exploit every bug, but I know that our AD emperor and his guild play it fair and square. We don't have numbers. WE often fight DC and EP and win fights over keeps before they whine and call in even more numbers. That's when we are beaten back and spawn camped. We are given no room to breath. When we come back from being pushed back we let the other sides keep a couple of their own keeps. We don't spawn camp them. why because we don't want to kill our home server. EP and DC have no problem calling in other guesting clans that have no feelings for Volendrung to smash other factions continuously for days. This is what kills servers. *** like that. SO before you start complaining about one person. Talk about bringing 40+ guest-ers into a campaign were the numbers use to be at least close to even to take every keep and holding for weeks on end with out any breathing room, waking up earlier to take all the keeps, and spawn camping. Take your huge zergs to wabbajack, Aerials bow, or some other f*cking huge pop server where 50+ man zergs is the norm.
    Edited by Milf_Hero on May 23, 2014 10:46AM
    You name it, and ill kill it.
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    If you come across the skilled group of AD in volendrung ill give you a hint on how to kill them. The hint is: don't use silver bolts or any of that other anti monster ***. We aren't Vampires or WW's. Well, two of us are but its because they are part of some ww guild or some ***. Anyways, don't go in like Vanhelsing thinking you are gonna steam roll a group of AD players.
    Edited by Milf_Hero on May 22, 2014 8:15PM
    You name it, and ill kill it.
  • blackweb
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    ***_Hero wrote: »
    If you come across the skilled group of AD in volendrung ill give you a hint on how to kill them. The hint is: don't use silver bolts or any of that other anti monster ***. We aren't Vampires or WW's. Well, two of us are but its because they are part of some ww guild or some ***. Anyways, don't go in like Vanhelsing thinking you are gonna steam roll a group of AD players.

    Thanks for the heads up. I am experienced at leading world pvp in general but I do lack experience in Cyrodill specifically. My experience in other games tells me that one player wiping large groups is OP regardless of the reason.

  • Dudis
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    Emperors are supposed to be OP but they are hardly gods.


    Hell, me and a friend (v10 templar and DK) ran into an emperor and a couple of his friends on EU Auriels Bow today. Sorc, vamp, nearly 5k HP, all that good stuff...

    We chased him around for a good 5 minutes, killing a bunch of his friends in the process with him popping in and out of the fight dropping bat ults which we easily dodged.
    We eventually caught him with no stamina and killed him pretty much during one knockdown. He barely damaged us at all other than when he dropped ults.
  • RingobloodtheOld
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    blackweb wrote: »

    Is it so hard to understand? He has played Planetside. He knows how world pvp works.

    I will assume you are not being sarcastic :pensive:

    I have led PvP in

    Planetside 1
    WoW
    WAR
    AoC
    Aion
    RIFT
    SWTOR
    Guild Wars 2
    Planetside 2
    ESO

    ESO, GW2 and PS2 all have a lot of things in common. I think that PS2 and GW2 are the best implementations of World PvP at this time.

    But yet he and 16 other ppl he is leading cant kill one VR10 Vamp DK.

    Edited by RingobloodtheOld on May 23, 2014 4:50PM
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  • Bane_of_Fringe
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    blackweb wrote: »
    I am Blackweb, leader of Phoenix Battalion, a 3000+ member multi-gaming community with guilds in Guild Wars 2, SWTOR, Planetside 2 and ESO. I have been leading large-scale pvp for more than 10 years. Our PS2 outfit has over 1500 members. We regularly have 100+ members online during prime time in PS2 organized down to the platoon and squad level. In one recent alert, the TR and VS factions stopped fighting each other just to counter Phoenix Battalion and our 3 platoons. To say the least, we know what we are doing in world pvp.

    Our current campaign, Hopesfire is dead so we are looking for a new campaign. We tried out Volendrung sunday night. We went in with about 16 gulid members, all on TeamSpeak together, some lowbies, some veterans. We were very organized with multiple strong healers.

    While assaulting an AD keep that contained a scroll, we encountered the AD Vampire Emperor DK. The AD had all of the scrolls on the map. In a matter of seconds, he easily wiped all of us. Even our strongest veterans could not kill him, our healers could not heal through his damage. We went to another keep, he showed up there with the same result. Game over, we quit the campaign and have no plans to return.

    We had one geared sorcerer healer that almost killed him. He got him down to 5% but ran out of steam before he could kill him. The Vampire DK Emperors health regeneration was insane. He could stand still, take damage and out-regen everyone's damage but our most geared sorcerer. Then it became a resource race that the sorcerer lost because of the combination of stacking buffs on the Vampire DK Emporer with full scroll and Cyrodill buffs. Just too much.

    Our sorcerer who almost killed him finally gave up and said "OP as f**k".

    I think that sums it up. That sorcerer is one of the best ESO players I have ever seen. He is the only one who could survive against the Emperor for any length of time because he is a Resto staff healing sorc who puts out good damage and he is a VERY strong healer.

    The current scroll and emperor and domination mechanics reward camping and piling on. The weak get weaker, and the strong get stronger. When one player can camp an entire zone and easily wipe large groups of enemies, the game mechanics that enable him to do so must be called broken.

    Zenimax, you are incentivizing bad behavior by the winning faction and giving the losing faction no incentive to fight back. I do not blame the vampire emporer, I blame the game mechanics that enabled him to camp an entire world pvp zone by himself.

    Recommendations:

    - Reduce all Emporer buffs by at least 50%.
    - Balance all Vampire abilities with all other classes abilities. A vampire should not be able to out-heal or out-dps any other class or weapon abilities.
    - Incentivize the out-numbered faction with bonus alliance points, experience and stat buffs.
    - The scroll bonuses are fine, leave them where they are.
    - Add incentives to play in low pop campaigns such as experience, AP, stat and healing buffs for low pop campaigns.

    At this time, there are only two active NA campaigns in Cyrodill, Bloodthorn and Wabbajack. All of the others are dead because of extreme imbalances caused by the game mechanics mentioned above.

    Stay out of the bats?

    EDIT: I mean seriously, you can't know wtf you're doing if you just get pushed out by one emp... Obviously don't understand ESO, so maybe you should stay to Planetside 2 or something, or learn the game before raging hard at mechanics like life-steal. Vamps have been nerfed too, so you obviously *** up by getting involved in the bat swarm or something.

    EDIT2: Wow, so you're just bitching about game mechanics? Because obviously you're too pro at these games for it to be a fault mistake? Sure he's OP, emperor needs to be that way, and when you let him exploit like he seems to be doing, it's only your fault. Comaetilico probably made a good exact assumption. The evidence that one of your guys brought him down to 5% health gives in that you all just fed him ulti and life-steal. This elitist *** coming from other games isn't going to mean much here. He's OP, not invincible. You're falling prey to nerfed mechanics and crying to nerf them more. I see the same stuff when a sorc streak/atronach bombs the *** out of a huge 'organized' group and they go off somewhere and cry about it. Sure, they're exploits, but there is a way around, and swarming the vamp never worked out.
    Edited by Bane_of_Fringe on May 23, 2014 5:47PM
    Characters:
    Bane of Fringe Vr-14
    Casts as Hatchling Vr-5
    Shinobu-chan Vr-1
    Holo the Wise and Cunning Vr-5
    Soft Rose Vr-1
    Svaedstrom Lowbie
    Man in the Fringe Vr-2
    Batul Gra-Sharob Vr-1

    Previous vets:
    Jade Blossom Vr-1
    Man in the Fringe Vr-5
    RAGE
  • frwinters_ESO
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    With a resume like yours that you posted up there, I will agree your doing something wrong. Why do you need to post your resume anyway?

    "Ive been playing games since age 6 with super mario borthers, then caselvania, then link to the past, then moved to playstation blah blah blah"

    If you cant kill your emporer and on a dead campaign move to a non dead campaign. Whats the problem?
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