Just my guess.
If I planned any crossplay (like merging at least two platform servers), why would I update servers for both platforms separately?

This will never happen. The economies of each platform are so wildly different that there is no way to reconcile them without massive changes. No way Zos does this. Plus, Zos has a hard enough time with stable netcode on one platform, I cannot imagine them being able to pull this off seamlessly.

Bokila wrote: »

RicAlmighty wrote: »

This will never happen. The economies of each platform are so wildly different that there is no way to reconcile them without massive changes. No way Zos does this.

Thought about this, that is why i mentioned pvp only change. It would benefit the dying servers such as Xbox EU.

It's not a bad idea in theory. I cannot see them ever letting EU and NA cross play, the connection differences would be tough to resolve. I know it took Bungie a long time to get cross-play working for Destiny 2 and they use peer-to-peer networking through Steam. So I'd think it would not be an easy thing for the current Zos to accomplish given that they run their own servers.

It would seem sensible to think about merging xbox-eu with xbox-na if the numbers on eu are really that low but the fact they are doing the upgrade work on eu right now it seems that isn't on their agenda atm.

One of the biggest issues always brought up in these type of discussion is name duplications, so until one platform's player base has shrunk so small that the forced name changes would be minimal I cannot see anything being done.

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

While we don't have any news to share about cross-play or cross-save functionality at this time, we want to acknowledge that we do see this request often. We'd like to hear your thoughts on the reasons why you would like to see this functionality in ESO. What pain points are you running into that this would help solve? The feedback here is helpful for us to share with the team.

Since you posted at same time I did 😂
Benefit is finding groups, downside since PC can have add-ons there is possible griefing with console. Another game I play also has cross play but they try to also discourage add-ons and any harassment or griefing tends to lend to bans.

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

While we don't have any news to share about cross-play or cross-save functionality at this time, we want to acknowledge that we do see this request often. We'd like to hear your thoughts on the reasons why you would like to see this functionality in ESO. What pain points are you running into that this would help solve? The feedback here is helpful for us to share with the team.

1. It would fix the low activity problem on Xbox EU (not sure if the activity is an issue on any other platform but even if the playercount will drop on any other platform it would not feel noticeable in a crossplay setting.)
2. It would allow us to play with friends from different platforms. I recently had an irl friend that moved from Xbox EU to PC EU and would like to play together. We still share achievements between each other but it's not as good as playing together.
3. With the addition of a cross save feature i would be able to play eso on my account anywhere i wanted. You might have noticed that the handheld market is raising. I have a steam deck and it would be amazing to play eso on my account on the go but unfortunately i am limited by the platform i am playing on. I can't just carry the xbox and a monitor everywhere i go.
4. Having universal prices to any game related item. Item prices (even crown store item prices) are being given a price tag depending on the platform. I have seen alot of content creators either sharing tips on how to make gold, either just stating prices of things generally and it does not reflect the prices of the other platforms. Players could avoid getting scammed if there would be an overall price platform wise for anything and it won't happen without crossplay. Of course, it would be a major shift but would help in the long run.

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

While we don't have any news to share about cross-play or cross-save functionality at this time, we want to acknowledge that we do see this request often. We'd like to hear your thoughts on the reasons why you would like to see this functionality in ESO. What pain points are you running into that this would help solve? The feedback here is helpful for us to share with the team.

my beta monkey from PC - support said they can't give it to me on XBOX

pain points, hmm...:
> crowns (sadly platform shop locked)
> crown store purchases (same)
> mount training (probably longest "grind" without purchasing lessons)
> accumulated cosmetics through events or even streams (at least streams could be tracked and activated)
> gold and mats - this i can't see to happen without breaking console economy...
> probably for most people having only one account - how much it will take to level up and do again all quests (which is actually couple of months)
(> leveling skill lines on multiple characters without purchase from crown store)

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

While we don't have any news to share about cross-play or cross-save functionality at this time, we want to acknowledge that we do see this request often. We'd like to hear your thoughts on the reasons why you would like to see this functionality in ESO. What pain points are you running into that this would help solve? The feedback here is helpful for us to share with the team.

At this time, I am not running into any pain points that this would help solve. My play is PvE only on PS/NA, split between overland solo/duo questing, crafting, trials with guild, dungeons with either PUG or guild. There are enough folks on PS/NA now that I am able to find folks for groups (trials/dungeons).

Please do not implement cross-play between PS/NA and PC/Any, because of the PC add-ons. Unless of course you want to implement the popular crafting and combat add-ons for console!

Bokila wrote: »

tohopka_eso wrote: »

Don't forget the add-ons with PC as well.

Personally, add-ons don't bother me. I see why it would be a problem for some people but just being able to have eso on the go on a steam deck as an xbox player would outmatch any "disadvantage" brought by the add-ons.
I also think that it would be amazing for casuals because generally they don't care about add-ons.

I can agree with you on that: If addons stay untouched, I'd personally support crossplay options. Unfortunately the upcoming balance-discussion seems inevitable, so I remain sceptical.

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

While we don't have any news to share about cross-play or cross-save functionality at this time, we want to acknowledge that we do see this request often. We'd like to hear your thoughts on the reasons why you would like to see this functionality in ESO. What pain points are you running into that this would help solve? The feedback here is helpful for us to share with the team.

honestly, cross play would be the worst thing to happen to ESO, the servers would simply collapse under the strain. the state of the game as it is would have to be completely reworked and re coded to facilitate cross play which would open up other issues too. Addons would have to be completely removed from pc or there would have to be a way to access them on console, removing addons from pc would not go down well with pc players.

over all the game is not and should not accommodate cross play. while people are constantly asking for it, i dont think they fully understand the logistics and issues that would come with adding cross play, the game just simply is not made for it, its too old.

Xandreia_ wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

While we don't have any news to share about cross-play or cross-save functionality at this time, we want to acknowledge that we do see this request often. We'd like to hear your thoughts on the reasons why you would like to see this functionality in ESO. What pain points are you running into that this would help solve? The feedback here is helpful for us to share with the team.

honestly, cross play would be the worst thing to happen to ESO, the servers would simply collapse under the strain. the state of the game as it is would have to be completely reworked and re coded to facilitate cross play which would open up other issues too. Addons would have to be completely removed from pc or there would have to be a way to access them on console, removing addons from pc would not go down well with pc players.

over all the game is not and should not accommodate cross play. while people are constantly asking for it, i dont think they fully understand the logistics and issues that would come with adding cross play, the game just simply is not made for it, its too old.

This is pretty much how I feel as well. Right now, the game runs really well for me (no endgame or pvp - not part of my playstyle/idea of fun) - except when there's a free to play thing, combined with events; with crossplay that would be how it would run all the time, and sorry, but I'm not a masochist.

I'd go back to Skyrim and Oblivion, and hope TES 6 releases before I'm too old to play computer games.

freespirit wrote: »

It would seem sensible to think about merging xbox-eu with xbox-na if the numbers on eu are really that low but the fact they are doing the upgrade work on eu right now it seems that isn't on their agenda .

Why would merging NA and EU servers be sensible? One continent would be greatly disadvantaged by lag and the time differences would mess with things like prime time and maintenance scheduling, not to mention things like double the number of guilds bidding on guild stores with not enough to go round etc

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

While we don't have any news to share about cross-play or cross-save functionality at this time, we want to acknowledge that we do see this request often. We'd like to hear your thoughts on the reasons why you would like to see this functionality in ESO. What pain points are you running into that this would help solve? The feedback here is helpful for us to share with the team.

Speaking from the perspective of one of the smallest servers (xbox eu), there are many situations where it’s not easy to play efficiently.
- Empty Cyrodiil
- Empty Imperial City
- Non-instantaneous ToT queues
- Long wait for dungeon queues

(I was actually very surprised ToT didn’t launch as a global service.)

Another big advantage would be that the experience for non-primetime users would improve. Yes, during primetime I want to play with users from my time zone. Yes, I want to prog trials with users from my time zone. But what if I want to play at 4am for some reason. My timezone is dead, but somewhere else in the world thousands of users are online. What about people who can only play during morning hours, etc.

Being able to fire up the game on pc as a console player can be interesting for testing purposes. Even though I prefer to play with fewer addons, it’s sometimes very important to use them for testing purposes, as the game communicates many mechanics very poorly to the player. (Great that you show us our dps after parsing for 3 mins, why not show us a full cmx-like results screen, so we can actually see where we are missing damage. Bind it to an expensive pro dummy and you don’t have to worry about a casual ever getting confused by it.)

Also there is a big difference between merging servers, enabling crossplay for certain content, and just enabling cross save. The latter two would be tremendously less complex and dangerous than merging servers, but give many of the same benefits.

Cross-save: Just being able to log in with my toons on xbox na or pc eu would already solve some of these issues.

Cross-play: Being able to queue into dungeons or tot games with players from other servers, or making pvp zones from other servers available to us would vastly improve much of the gaming experience.

Crossplay without merging databases would be hard, it depend a lot on how the architecture is set up. Do they copy part of the account data to the physical servers or is all using one huge database?
In the later no, they have to merge, if not it might be possible but hard.