gariondavey wrote: »0 drops in 4 days from the gold box + 1 epic box each day.
@ZOS_Kevin do you know why this drop rate is lower than previous events?
I mean, you only opened 8 boxes it seems. That may be the reason why the drop rate is low, you haven't really participated in the event enough to have enough chances at dropping the pages.
FluffyBird wrote: »gariondavey wrote: »0 drops in 4 days from the gold box + 1 epic box each day.
@ZOS_Kevin do you know why this drop rate is lower than previous events?
I mean, you only opened 8 boxes it seems. That may be the reason why the drop rate is low, you haven't really participated in the event enough to have enough chances at dropping the pages.
Would you mind defining "really participating"?
FluffyBird wrote: »gariondavey wrote: »0 drops in 4 days from the gold box + 1 epic box each day.
@ZOS_Kevin do you know why this drop rate is lower than previous events?
I mean, you only opened 8 boxes it seems. That may be the reason why the drop rate is low, you haven't really participated in the event enough to have enough chances at dropping the pages.
Would you mind defining "really participating"?
I said, participated enough.
The commenter I replied to did the bare minimum to just get the event tickets. The style pages take a bit more effort than doing 4 quests over 4 days. And they should take that. They can be bought for tickets or gold from traders, or they can be earned by players who put in a bit of effort farming some boxes. It's a good thing they aren't handed out to players who just showed up to the event and really didn't go beyond that.
dFluffyBird wrote: »gariondavey wrote: »0 drops in 4 days from the gold box + 1 epic box each day.
@ZOS_Kevin do you know why this drop rate is lower than previous events?
I mean, you only opened 8 boxes it seems. That may be the reason why the drop rate is low, you haven't really participated in the event enough to have enough chances at dropping the pages.
Would you mind defining "really participating"?
I said, participated enough.
The commenter I replied to did the bare minimum to just get the event tickets. The style pages take a bit more effort than doing 4 quests over 4 days. And they should take that. They can be bought for tickets or gold from traders, or they can be earned by players who put in a bit of effort farming some boxes. It's a good thing they aren't handed out to players who just showed up to the event and really didn't go beyond that.
The commenter did more than me, I only do 5 characters, and have gotten a page every day, not everyone wants a bunch of toons, nor to spend all day on this game. I feel I've participated more than enough, more than the bare minimum for tickets, as that would be just 1 quest needed.
gariondavey wrote: »0 drops in 4 days from the gold box + 1 epic box each day.
@ZOS_Kevin do you know why this drop rate is lower than previous events?
I mean, you only opened 8 boxes it seems. That may be the reason why the drop rate is low, you haven't really participated in the event enough to have enough chances at dropping the pages.
Hvíthákarl wrote: »So far the feedback has been amazing! After giving it another thought today, and taking into account some stuff that's been said I've come with an idea, so hear me out:
They would be capped at three daily pages.
1st, golden event box: Guaranteed bound motif page you don't already own. If you've already completed it, you have instead a 50% chance to get any unbound event motif page from the golden box.
Purple boxes: 50% chance of getting any unbound event motif page. After that, you have a 10% chance of getting a third one so those interested in playing funny coin numbers would have to earn it.
Your thoughts? How would you improve it? Maybe you have a different idea?
gariondavey wrote: »gariondavey wrote: »0 drops in 4 days from the gold box + 1 epic box each day.
@ZOS_Kevin do you know why this drop rate is lower than previous events?
I mean, you only opened 8 boxes it seems. That may be the reason why the drop rate is low, you haven't really participated in the event enough to have enough chances at dropping the pages.
You have a much higher chance of getting it from the gold box, as far as I understand things.
FluffyBird wrote: »They are a limited time offering, you can't grind them over some long time, if the drop is low, you have to live in the game for the duration of event, which can only lead to burnout.
SeaGtGruff wrote: »Billium813 wrote: »Only open event boxes until you get a motif page. Then stop until 24hrs passes. There is an invisible 20 hour cooldown on page drops that players don't realize.
This does not fit my experience during this event.
On the first day of the event, I found two different pages of the event style on the same server (PC NA), by the same character (my main), from purple event coffers obtained just hours apart (if that long) by harvesting resource nodes and killing mobs on the way to the various fishing holes and scenic sites for the holiday quest.
There was not even a daily reset between the two pages; both were found before the daily reset which would have ended the first day of the event.
In contrast, I found no pages that day on the other server (PC EU). I did eventually find one page on the other server, but if I'm not mistaken it was on the third day of the event-- also found in a purple event coffer by killing a mob on the way to a delve. So far that's the only page I've found on that server, but I haven't been grinding resource nodes and mobs yet.
Was going to post how stupid this hidden 20h timer is... but I got another oaken style page less than 20h after getting one yesterday. So either it is an 18h or less hidden timer, or the droprate is just incredibly low with no timer. I love this, as this means we can keep farming those style pages if we want.
I don't know what's worse, getting no event page, or getting the same one 3 days in a row....sigh
FluffyBird wrote: »gariondavey wrote: »0 drops in 4 days from the gold box + 1 epic box each day.
@ZOS_Kevin do you know why this drop rate is lower than previous events?
I mean, you only opened 8 boxes it seems. That may be the reason why the drop rate is low, you haven't really participated in the event enough to have enough chances at dropping the pages.
Would you mind defining "really participating"?
Billium813 wrote: »FluffyBird wrote: »They are a limited time offering, you can't grind them over some long time, if the drop is low, you have to live in the game for the duration of event, which can only lead to burnout.SeaGtGruff wrote: »Billium813 wrote: »Only open event boxes until you get a motif page. Then stop until 24hrs passes. There is an invisible 20 hour cooldown on page drops that players don't realize.
This does not fit my experience during this event.
On the first day of the event, I found two different pages of the event style on the same server (PC NA), by the same character (my main), from purple event coffers obtained just hours apart (if that long) by harvesting resource nodes and killing mobs on the way to the various fishing holes and scenic sites for the holiday quest.
There was not even a daily reset between the two pages; both were found before the daily reset which would have ended the first day of the event.
In contrast, I found no pages that day on the other server (PC EU). I did eventually find one page on the other server, but if I'm not mistaken it was on the third day of the event-- also found in a purple event coffer by killing a mob on the way to a delve. So far that's the only page I've found on that server, but I haven't been grinding resource nodes and mobs yet.Was going to post how stupid this hidden 20h timer is... but I got another oaken style page less than 20h after getting one yesterday. So either it is an 18h or less hidden timer, or the droprate is just incredibly low with no timer. I love this, as this means we can keep farming those style pages if we want.
Perhaps my experience is just anecdotal evidence, but I will repeat again that I don't seem to have any issue getting 1 style page per day from opening 5-8 Society of the Steadfast's Munificence Coffers. Maybe after the first style page drop, the odds drop more for each additional page per 20 hours... I'm not sure, but I do know that in the past, I used to open 100 boxes a day, farming events and in the last 2ish years I have noticed that after the 1st page, it just isn't worth it anymore.
For dailies coffers, AFAIK there IS a 20 hour cooldown on motif page drops.
This is what I do:
- I only open daily reward coffers and event coffers after 11pm CST, PC NA, every day, before the daily reset.
- I open them all at once, not as I get them.
- I stop opening coffers, that have the same name, once one contains a motif (daily reward coffers) or style page (event coffer). The rest I save until the next day.
Hero's of High Isle
Day 1: 6 boxes to get Style Page: Oaken Order Belt
Day 2: 5 boxes to get Style Page: Oaken Order Guards
Day 3: 8 boxes to get Style Page: Oaken Order Bracers
Day 4: 3 boxes to get Style Page: Oaken Order Bracers
To me, this feels pretty much the same from each event this year. I'll trade the duplicates (if I can) for ones I am missing, but by the end of the event, I should have all the pages.I don't know what's worse, getting no event page, or getting the same one 3 days in a row....sigh
From my experience, this is the biggest issue. They just need to make the drops "random", but curated. They need to be random, even while curated, so that players can't farm specific pages that are more expensive like they do for sticker book drops. If every player had the same curated drop order, the last 1-2 pages would be SUPER expensive and the first 5 would be peanuts.
Gaebriel0410 wrote: »I just go around to sightsee and kill things, harvesting a node here and there, and the boxes drop plenty for me.
Not sure if there's a timer on anything, I found two Oaken Order pages quickly after another the other day. The Steadfast pages are definitely not on a timer, I found like 4-5 pages yesterday and I just did the three dailies and ran around for an hour afterwards.
Necrotech_Master wrote: »older events did have the problem of outfit pages being too common
jephrine paladin and a few others were so insanely common i had multiple copies of each in storage and couldnt hardly sell them for like more than a few hundred gold if they sold at all
but i find the newer ones to be a little too rare because its hard to even collect them all yourself without buying or trading in guilds/zone chat
so they need a good balance between the pages being so common that they become worthless clutter, and so rare that it makes it impossible to finish the set without immense amounts of farming or burning a lot of tickets on the pages
Kiralyn2000 wrote: »
I guess it all depends on what the intended goal the devs have for the event. Is it for everyone who participates to get a set of the style? Or is it for only the fortunate/rich to get them? If it's the first, then the rates are too low.
DirtyDeeds765 wrote: »I like that they're kinda rare. Why do you think they should be abundant? Just because they were in the past?
I think its cool that they're not dropping every other box. Makes them more valuable, in a financial sense and otherwise.
You aren't entitled to style pages. Earn them.