Oh yes we remember, the Morrowind trailer guy casting frost mage spells which do not exist on the Warden class
It was a super hype chapter though. Back then it was nothing but excitement for chapters
SEINTDARKNES wrote: »For example I don't think a lot of people use expansive frost because you don't need a big area of effect, at worse you will cast the hability 1 more time so i don't see the point on using expansive frost.
You don't want to bark up that tree, I've had so many healers crucify me over suggesting reworking Expansive Frost Cloak, but if they say just gave the range to Ice Fortress and made the other morph something interesting like being melee'd while cloak is active chills the attacker and reduces their movement speed by 30% , I'd be down for that
Watching over the entire video, it only thing that actually made it to the abilities was the Bear. We didn't get the Frost Bolt thing or the Big Ice Shell Move, that would have actually been a cool ability. You might be able to argue the big AoE Frost Blast was an Amped up Northern Storm, but still there was some missed potential for sure
Watching over the entire video, it only thing that actually made it to the abilities was the Bear. We didn't get the Frost Bolt thing or the Big Ice Shell Move, that would have actually been a cool ability. You might be able to argue the big AoE Frost Blast was an Amped up Northern Storm, but still there was some missed potential for sure
I feel like the big Ice tornado in the animation is a cinematic version of the old Permafrost that froze/ stunned enemies.
SEINTDARKNES wrote: »Watching over the entire video, it only thing that actually made it to the abilities was the Bear. We didn't get the Frost Bolt thing or the Big Ice Shell Move, that would have actually been a cool ability. You might be able to argue the big AoE Frost Blast was an Amped up Northern Storm, but still there was some missed potential for sure
I feel like the big Ice tornado in the animation is a cinematic version of the old Permafrost that froze/ stunned enemies.
But it looks so cool like a frost nuke or something xD
Frost mini nuke for ultimate? Maybe like frost comet but the blast comes from your body like in the video, i know i know i dream a lot xD
I don't know man, Frost Wardens seem in a better place than Shock Sorcerers.
ESO_Nightingale wrote: »I don't know man, Frost Wardens seem in a better place than Shock Sorcerers.
Certainly, there's no argument there from me. however, we still lack the representation of damage skills within our own class when it's supposed to be the frost class, there's a lot of arguments to be made about shock sorcerers and how they really need support, for that i 100% back you. But at the same time, that doesn't invalidate our own points.
ESO_Nightingale wrote: »I don't know man, Frost Wardens seem in a better place than Shock Sorcerers.
Certainly, there's no argument there from me. however, we still lack the representation of damage skills within our own class when it's supposed to be the frost class, there's a lot of arguments to be made about shock sorcerers and how they really need support, for that i 100% back you. But at the same time, that doesn't invalidate our own points.
Fair enough. It's just like you pointed out, there have been several improvements for frost wardens over the years, and considering how seldom ZOS gives us what we want, my frost warden almost feels spoiled.
Not in the way that he's on par with proper builds, of course he isn't. Just compared to other neglected builds.
Besides finally making Arctic Blast a worthwhile stun, I still hope they'll give us a Frostbite Spider morph for our shalks. It just makes too much sense not to.
In general, instead of constantly reworking old skills, I wish they would just add new morphs. The morph system promised so much potential, but it remains virtually unused. Where's the harm in having 3 or 4 morphs per skill, or a 3rd morph stage? You can only have one morph per skill anyway, doesn't matter if it's 2 choices or 20. Just give us more choices, ZOS!
ESO_Nightingale wrote: »I don't know man, Frost Wardens seem in a better place than Shock Sorcerers.
Certainly, there's no argument there from me. however, we still lack the representation of damage skills within our own class when it's supposed to be the frost class, there's a lot of arguments to be made about shock sorcerers and how they really need support, for that i 100% back you. But at the same time, that doesn't invalidate our own points.
Fair enough. It's just like you pointed out, there have been several improvements for frost wardens over the years, and considering how seldom ZOS gives us what we want, my frost warden almost feels spoiled.
Not in the way that he's on par with proper builds, of course he isn't. Just compared to other neglected builds.
Besides finally making Arctic Blast a worthwhile stun, I still hope they'll give us a Frostbite Spider morph for our shalks. It just makes too much sense not to.
In general, instead of constantly reworking old skills, I wish they would just add new morphs. The morph system promised so much potential, but it remains virtually unused. Where's the harm in having 3 or 4 morphs per skill, or a 3rd morph stage? You can only have one morph per skill anyway, doesn't matter if it's 2 choices or 20. Just give us more choices, ZOS!
hmmmmm I wouldn't consider waiting 5 seconds for a Stun a "Worthwhile Stun".
Also if they just step back you have to recast, it's such a bad change
Just wait till a mDK reflects your stunning frost bolts back to you from Slab, then we'll really be having fun
Changed a long time ago.Ah.... I don't really play DK much but that's good to know
ESO_Nightingale wrote: »
So that means we need to have a Warden Ping Pong Match, too bad the damage doesn't accumulate, that could get ridiculous.
ESO_Nightingale wrote: »
SEINTDARKNES wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »
I think we can play ping pong but if we can do it who will be stun? The fist person to get the reflect projectile or the first person to drop the shields?
ESO_Nightingale wrote: »SEINTDARKNES wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »
I think we can play ping pong but if we can do it who will be stun? The fist person to get the reflect projectile or the first person to drop the shields?
It'd stun both of the players.
SEINTDARKNES wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »SEINTDARKNES wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »
I think we can play ping pong but if we can do it who will be stun? The fist person to get the reflect projectile or the first person to drop the shields?
It'd stun both of the players.
If that's the case i want to clarify that playing ping pong sounds fun but in a real fight will be really annoying, you will be giving free cc to everyone and if you encounter other warden you will get stun too.
I think this can have very hard repercussions in pvp for example imagine if for some reason warden become so popular that a large part of the community play as warden like rn dks on live, well imagine everyone using slab, this could have some hard repercussions and ppl can be so annoyed with the skill that they could opt to don't play with skills at range so we can assume we literally just erase range style of the game.
It could be very hard that realistically happen but it is there.