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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2u7rWqSrBY Quite literally no practical application where crystal blast is better than frags, outside apperently role playing immersion. The opportunity cost is too high. A sorc using crystal blast as their main burst skill is not only not gonna kill anything, but actually likely to get themselves killed in the process.
Case in point, the first clip of this video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2u7rWqSrBY
Quite literally no practical application where crystal blast is better than frags, outside apperently role playing immersion. The opportunity cost is too high. A sorc using crystal blast as their main burst skill is not only not gonna kill anything, but actually likely to get themselves killed in the process.
Case in point, the first clip of this video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2u7rWqSrBY
Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »I always used Crystal Blast because the AoE damage just makes it much higher dps than any procced Crystal Fragments and I use it more as a spammable. It also clears adds away very well with that AoE, especially when used in melee range in the middle of a rugby scrum of enemies. A 1-second cast time matching the 1-second global cooldown isn't bad at all. It actually seems quite fast.
It's not likely to be interrupted more than once in a short duration even in pvp due to CC immunity and other factors. In pve, it's just awesome.
Quite literally no practical application where crystal blast is better than frags, outside apperently role playing immersion. The opportunity cost is too high. A sorc using crystal blast as their main burst skill is not only not gonna kill anything, but actually likely to get themselves killed in the process.
Case in point, the first clip of this video:
MehrunesFlagon wrote: »Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »I always used Crystal Blast because the AoE damage just makes it much higher dps than any procced Crystal Fragments and I use it more as a spammable. It also clears adds away very well with that AoE, especially when used in melee range in the middle of a rugby scrum of enemies. A 1-second cast time matching the 1-second global cooldown isn't bad at all. It actually seems quite fast.
It's not likely to be interrupted more than once in a short duration even in pvp due to CC immunity and other factors. In pve, it's just awesome.
if you were in a pug pve group you would be kicked.in pvp dead in seconds.
Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »Quite literally no practical application where crystal blast is better than frags, outside apperently role playing immersion. The opportunity cost is too high. A sorc using crystal blast as their main burst skill is not only not gonna kill anything, but actually likely to get themselves killed in the process.
Case in point, the first clip of this video:
You forgot to mention you meant only in pvp.
In PVE, crystal blast isn't risky and is a LOT more dps anytime there is more than one target close by, while helping to clear the extra targets.
I think everyone here supporting Crystal Fragments means in pvp or is sadly misinformed in pve.
Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »Quite literally no practical application where crystal blast is better than frags, outside apperently role playing immersion. The opportunity cost is too high. A sorc using crystal blast as their main burst skill is not only not gonna kill anything, but actually likely to get themselves killed in the process.
Case in point, the first clip of this video:
You forgot to mention you meant only in pvp.
In PVE, crystal blast isn't risky and is a LOT more dps anytime there is more than one target close by, while helping to clear the extra targets.
I think everyone here supporting Crystal Fragments means in pvp or is sadly misinformed in pve.
Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »Quite literally no practical application where crystal blast is better than frags, outside apperently role playing immersion. The opportunity cost is too high. A sorc using crystal blast as their main burst skill is not only not gonna kill anything, but actually likely to get themselves killed in the process.
Case in point, the first clip of this video:
You forgot to mention you meant only in pvp.
In PVE, crystal blast isn't risky and is a LOT more dps anytime there is more than one target close by, while helping to clear the extra targets.
I think everyone here supporting Crystal Fragments means in pvp or is sadly misinformed in pve.
But in that time you could have also just used a lightning heavy attack to deal similar damage and restore magika.
MehrunesFlagon wrote: »Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »Quite literally no practical application where crystal blast is better than frags, outside apperently role playing immersion. The opportunity cost is too high. A sorc using crystal blast as their main burst skill is not only not gonna kill anything, but actually likely to get themselves killed in the process.
Case in point, the first clip of this video:
You forgot to mention you meant only in pvp.
In PVE, crystal blast isn't risky and is a LOT more dps anytime there is more than one target close by, while helping to clear the extra targets.
I think everyone here supporting Crystal Fragments means in pvp or is sadly misinformed in pve.
sorc has enough aoe damage.you would be gimping your single target if you chose blast over frags
Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »Quite literally no practical application where crystal blast is better than frags, outside apperently role playing immersion. The opportunity cost is too high. A sorc using crystal blast as their main burst skill is not only not gonna kill anything, but actually likely to get themselves killed in the process.
Case in point, the first clip of this video:
You forgot to mention you meant only in pvp.
In PVE, crystal blast isn't risky and is a LOT more dps anytime there is more than one target close by, while helping to clear the extra targets.
I think everyone here supporting Crystal Fragments means in pvp or is sadly misinformed in pve.
But in that time you could have also just used a lightning heavy attack to deal similar damage and restore magika.
MehrunesFlagon wrote: »Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »Quite literally no practical application where crystal blast is better than frags, outside apperently role playing immersion. The opportunity cost is too high. A sorc using crystal blast as their main burst skill is not only not gonna kill anything, but actually likely to get themselves killed in the process.
Case in point, the first clip of this video:
You forgot to mention you meant only in pvp.
In PVE, crystal blast isn't risky and is a LOT more dps anytime there is more than one target close by, while helping to clear the extra targets.
I think everyone here supporting Crystal Fragments means in pvp or is sadly misinformed in pve.
But in that time you could have also just used a lightning heavy attack to deal similar damage and restore magika.
not to mention being *** on sustain.
Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »MehrunesFlagon wrote: »Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »Quite literally no practical application where crystal blast is better than frags, outside apperently role playing immersion. The opportunity cost is too high. A sorc using crystal blast as their main burst skill is not only not gonna kill anything, but actually likely to get themselves killed in the process.
Case in point, the first clip of this video:
You forgot to mention you meant only in pvp.
In PVE, crystal blast isn't risky and is a LOT more dps anytime there is more than one target close by, while helping to clear the extra targets.
I think everyone here supporting Crystal Fragments means in pvp or is sadly misinformed in pve.
But in that time you could have also just used a lightning heavy attack to deal similar damage and restore magika.
not to mention being *** on sustain.
I'm in heavy armor with the passive for more magicka return from heavy attacks with a restoration staff and that passive and the CP passive, if I'm using Crystal Blast or any other skill spamming.
That definitely lessens those problems a lot.
https://youtu.be/RixBfUXquzcMystrius_Archaion wrote: »I always used Crystal Blast because the AoE damage just makes it much higher dps than any procced Crystal Fragments and I use it more as a spammable. It also clears adds away very well with that AoE, especially when used in melee range in the middle of a rugby scrum of enemies. A 1-second cast time matching the 1-second global cooldown isn't bad at all. It actually seems quite fast.
It's not likely to be interrupted more than once in a short duration even in pvp due to CC immunity and other factors. In pve, it's just awesome.
Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »MehrunesFlagon wrote: »Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »Quite literally no practical application where crystal blast is better than frags, outside apperently role playing immersion. The opportunity cost is too high. A sorc using crystal blast as their main burst skill is not only not gonna kill anything, but actually likely to get themselves killed in the process.
Case in point, the first clip of this video:
You forgot to mention you meant only in pvp.
In PVE, crystal blast isn't risky and is a LOT more dps anytime there is more than one target close by, while helping to clear the extra targets.
I think everyone here supporting Crystal Fragments means in pvp or is sadly misinformed in pve.
But in that time you could have also just used a lightning heavy attack to deal similar damage and restore magika.
not to mention being *** on sustain.
I'm in heavy armor with the passive for more magicka return from heavy attacks with a restoration staff and that passive and the CP passive, if I'm using Crystal Blast or any other skill spamming.
That definitely lessens those problems a lot.
I'm sure you have some parses or DPS tests to back those up. Surely, all the mag sorcs using Crystal Frag competitively in PvE must have it wrong.
Drummerx04 wrote: »This is kind of a no brainer. The 1 second cast time is not necessarily easy to interrupt, but the problem is the lack of mobility and defense required to use it. The delay and movement snare under decent enemy pressure is just too risky, the skill becomes essentially untrustworthy.Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »I always used Crystal Blast because the AoE damage just makes it much higher dps than any procced Crystal Fragments and I use it more as a spammable. It also clears adds away very well with that AoE, especially when used in melee range in the middle of a rugby scrum of enemies. A 1-second cast time matching the 1-second global cooldown isn't bad at all. It actually seems quite fast.
It's not likely to be interrupted more than once in a short duration even in pvp due to CC immunity and other factors. In pve, it's just awesome.
You know what else clears adds in pve? Literally everything.
Crystal blast may seem fast, but I repeat my position. It's just not really reliable outside of Xv1 situations or as an opener (I'll often open with a hard casted frag). Easily the majority of players that spam crystal blast in cyrodiil are summarily killed with little resistance. The only time such spamming is effective is when there is no way to get to the caster because he's behind 20 of his friends...
Plain and simple, this is a nerf and in no way makes blast actually look better. I guess it's hard to say exactly how badly this will impact sorc play in cyrodiil, but as always good players will manage, bad-average players will feel weak af.
Cast time skills are inefficient, to the point where they are a big handicap. They are too risky (and again inefficient) to use in pvp, will get you interrupted/killed. Case closed.
Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »MehrunesFlagon wrote: »Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »Quite literally no practical application where crystal blast is better than frags, outside apperently role playing immersion. The opportunity cost is too high. A sorc using crystal blast as their main burst skill is not only not gonna kill anything, but actually likely to get themselves killed in the process.
Case in point, the first clip of this video:
You forgot to mention you meant only in pvp.
In PVE, crystal blast isn't risky and is a LOT more dps anytime there is more than one target close by, while helping to clear the extra targets.
I think everyone here supporting Crystal Fragments means in pvp or is sadly misinformed in pve.
But in that time you could have also just used a lightning heavy attack to deal similar damage and restore magika.
not to mention being *** on sustain.
I'm in heavy armor with the passive for more magicka return from heavy attacks with a restoration staff and that passive and the CP passive, if I'm using Crystal Blast or any other skill spamming.
That definitely lessens those problems a lot.
I'm sure you have some parses or DPS tests to back those up. Surely, all the mag sorcs using Crystal Frag competitively in PvE must have it wrong.https://youtu.be/RixBfUXquzc
Almost 60% of his damage also damage nearby targets, just from seeing the top of his combat metrics. Crystal blast is a waste a time, be it PvP or PvE. There is a reason no one uses this - and it's because it's an absolute bottom-tier skill that does worse while being stupidly expensive.
Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »MehrunesFlagon wrote: »Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »Quite literally no practical application where crystal blast is better than frags, outside apperently role playing immersion. The opportunity cost is too high. A sorc using crystal blast as their main burst skill is not only not gonna kill anything, but actually likely to get themselves killed in the process.
Case in point, the first clip of this video:
You forgot to mention you meant only in pvp.
In PVE, crystal blast isn't risky and is a LOT more dps anytime there is more than one target close by, while helping to clear the extra targets.
I think everyone here supporting Crystal Fragments means in pvp or is sadly misinformed in pve.
But in that time you could have also just used a lightning heavy attack to deal similar damage and restore magika.
not to mention being *** on sustain.
I'm in heavy armor with the passive for more magicka return from heavy attacks with a restoration staff and that passive and the CP passive, if I'm using Crystal Blast or any other skill spamming.
That definitely lessens those problems a lot.
I'm sure you have some parses or DPS tests to back those up. Surely, all the mag sorcs using Crystal Frag competitively in PvE must have it wrong.https://youtu.be/RixBfUXquzc
Almost 60% of his damage also damage nearby targets, just from seeing the top of his combat metrics. Crystal blast is a waste a time, be it PvP or PvE. There is a reason no one uses this - and it's because it's an absolute bottom-tier skill that does worse while being stupidly expensive.