Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Did skins mean anything before?


(seriously, outside the "competitive trials scene", did the average player even know enough to see a skin someone was wearing, and realize that it meant anything other than "I think this looks cool"?)

edit: case in point

Atm only the Dawnbringer totems and Godslayer mount (and soon the Rockgrove fleshripper mount) are “prestigious” like that.

I've no idea what the first one is, or what the second one looks like.

I have no idea what a skin even is or what one looks like.

No. Skins are mostly ugly imo except maybe meridian.

I am very proud of my vMOL skin.

got all except vCR+3 yet and not using any of them on characters I play except sometimes when lvling under 50lvl char to break some immersion by wearing veterant content skin with personality on character not viable to even enter into this content :>

(Almost) all seem to be well hdiden fashion abominations!

So much envy in here, either you dont have the skill to get the skins or the money to buy them.

90% of times (other 10% are probably sold accounts) it's an indication in a pug that the player can learn at least and probably have some semblance of how the game works and actively showing it, zmaja one being obviously the hardest to get, shame it rarely looks good.

For me personally zone chats filled with wts are nothing more than an indication that there are a lot of able groups, not that they have a lot of customers and especially customers that will use the skin to show off later. After participation in one of those carry runs myself I have an impression that it's mostly for gear farming or suiting needs of roleplayers getting themed skin or a furnishing, maybe now it's not the case anymore but it was year or two back then. That person even shown us their themed house and talked about the concept later, for ones interested in it (like 5-6 of us?)

Personally using skins for a themed characters or if I feel like being glowy/darker for some outfit related reason and not to show what I've done (but when I've got my first vmol clear and vhof back then it was surely for a show off lol, still like how they both look on a darker dunmeri skin)

Athan1 wrote: »

and break immersion

Honest question with zero provocation in mind, any examples of when/how it can be immersion breaking? Or is it a lack of in-game justification for them existing on a player characters, I'm actually interested as always reading this point on forum but don't remember being thrown off by any skin yet. I'm more concerned about some names and skimpy outfits myself, lol.

I'm torn between options: "Dungeons skins" and "People pay for carries"

If somebody has trial/dungeon skin, I can't know how they got it. But even if they got it by skill, I know that I could get it too. It's impossible for me to get into veteran trial groups, simply cause I don't use voice chat. So no matter my personal skill, I can't find other 11 people who are not afraid to do content without voice

Once I could get into vAS + 0 without being on voice chat, simply because the guild group was short of 1 person and they couldn't find anyone else. They were often dying, so based on my observations, voice chat didn't help them Unlike them, I was familiar with mechanics thanks to lot of normal runs + helpful videos from Youtube.
Sadly, we can't have skin for simple vet clear in that trial

I got into vMoL once with same group, for same reason. It was unbelievable luck for me, cause vet clear rewards the skin there I almost never use this skin, but it looks cool:



Luckily, it's rather easy to get into dungeon/arena group without voice chat So these rewards are not out of my reach.

Only two times I saw people freaking out without voice chat in dungeons: one time somebody in pug said "we won't clear this dungeon without voice chat" when group finder ported us into vWGT And other time somebody asked if we can get into voice chat, when we reached final boss in vRoM He didn't even know that boss herself calls out the start of statue mechanic - he was so used to hear other group members calling out mechanics for him.

The first dungeon skin I was really proud of was Spiderkith. It is needed when I want to have a "zombie cheerleader" look on my stamplar



And it's permanent look of my "necromancer at heart" vampire sorcerer. Before Greymoor and awful changes to vampirism, she was often undisguised vampire at 4th stage - with striking pale look.
Since Greymoor, she is always vampire on 1st stage, and that look is not good for her. So she has to wear Spiderkith skin permanently:



I'm proud of all my skins, but at the same time I understand that for other people seeing those skins doesn't mean anything.
Even Soulshriven skin had lot of value when it was rare drop from Molag Bal I got it back in those days. Nowadays it's greatly devalued by being in runebox + being sold for tickets during IC events... I still sometimes use it on my stamplar, my main PvP character - it was her who got that skin to drop back in the days

Fischblut wrote: »

It's impossible for me to get into veteran trial groups, simply cause I don't use voice chat. So no matter my personal skill, I can't find other 11 people who are not afraid to do content without voice

Just a heads up on this one, keep searching if you have an actual interest in it as it's actually possible, but would require not a typical group but a decent people and even better friends or ones that can treat you like one from the very beginning.

Possibly it requires more skill to have a start without a voice as you need to perform better than anyone else or at least on par to get a spot but it might be worth it for you. You'll have way better chances to get into just starting group than an already formed and clearing one but that should be obvious:)