Do skins give an idea of your level of experience/expertise? If so which skin is the most impressive

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  • josiahva
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    Skins are cosmetic...they aren't impressive. Even if people cared about cosmetics, there are so many carries it simply doesn't matter.
  • Khrogo
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    I sometimes take note of skins/titles, but they don’t mean that much. For example, I ran nCR recently. Someone had the purple skin, and I watched them repeatedly run away from the group with Siroria’s fire. Which goes to show, anything can be bought. Lol.
  • redlink1979
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    With all the spamming that is made in chat from sellers, at this point skins mean nothing.
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  • Ishtarknows
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    Zmajas Shadow - vCR+3
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    I saw someone rocking a vCR3 skin in a random dungeon I was tanking. And they were probably dishing out a maximum dps of 15-20k. Spamming the same ability over and over again.

    Needless to say, I’m pretty skeptical with people “showing off” skins

    Maybe they gained their skin on a healer or tank? Not every support excels as a dd
  • KovalskyNestor
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.

    Maybe they gained their skin on a healer or tank? Not every support excels as a dd

    Honestly, I wouldn't think that is the case. Even healer mains and tanks know how to weave and not spam only one skill to kill a mob.
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    *cries in crown store skins*
  • Ringing_Nirnroot
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    Zmajas Shadow - vCR+3
    Purple since I doubt a lot of people buy carries for it and it’s hardest to get
  • NordSwordnBoard
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    As someone who has a handful of earned skins, and some from crates or the store I see them as a fun cosmetic. As others mentioned, way back when VMoL came out it was a badge of accomplishment. (Vampire was different, and many wanted to hide it) Not so much anynore. At one point the only skins you could have were earned and it set you apart from the crowd. When Hist dungeons came out, even those weren't easy and carries were not so readily available.

    I think the major turning point was selling them in the store, not carries for them. I remember a lot of the PvE/trial crowd being upset that skins became available (besides soul-shriven) to the rich and unskilled. Around this time is when I think skins lost their luster as a visible achievement. Selling a "B" version of the skin or mount in the crown store/crates led to it being about style not skill.

    Memba when someone earned a skin the first day it came out?
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  • Kiralyn2000
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    The thing is, they can only "mean something" to the parts of the viewing audience that actually know they mean anything.


    So even if there weren't carries, or crown store skins that looked similar, if you stood in the middle of town (or joined a pug), what % of the people around you would say "ooh, he's Impressive! He did Hard Content X!" and what % would just say "Huh. Weird skin. How Ugly/Cool/Silly." 10%/90%? 5%/95%?
    (heck, then there's the third fraction of the audience - the ones who don't even notice someone with a skin nearby. So maybe it's 10%/20%/70%. :D )


    Even when there was just one skin, how many people knew what it meant? Or do you take the position "well, the people who know what it means, are the only ones who matter; the rest are noobs/plebes/casuals/NPCs"?


    edit: personally, I've been playing since 2016, and I couldn't tell you the name of any skin you showed me, or if it's reward/event/crown. Never could. Honestly, beyond the first couple tiers of WoW Raid armor - because at the time, they were the only people posing in the center of town with Giant Flaming Shoulders, I've never really noticed the "rare accomplishment" displays of other players.

    Once there are enough visual options - motifs, costumes, dyes, transmogs, etc - it all blends into a chaotic display of Variety. No specific thing means anything, beyond the ones that take the neon-sign approach (like the guy in the lime green & pink plate armor). And they're only notable for their garishness.
    Edited by Kiralyn2000 on May 5, 2021 2:46PM
  • Nephthys
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    Many people don’t wear or like skins. They are meaningless in terms of success.
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  • sarahthes
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    Purple since I doubt a lot of people buy carries for it and it’s hardest to get

    Many people buy it, not so much because of the skin, but because they're looking for perfected Cloudrest jewelry.
  • Danikat
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    I don't think they've ever been about showing what you've completed or how well you did at it.

    They're cosmetic items, wear them if you like it or think it suits the character and don't use it if not, rather than trying to guess how strangers might choose to interpret it.
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  • magnusthorek
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    While I wanted them so badly because of the achievements they're associated with, I probably wouldn't use them because that would require me to pay for an Appearance Change just to change the hair colour to a matching one. So I stick with Meridia's Purified, the most beautiful in my opinion (I do have others, including dro-m'Athra, but it conflicts with the hair the same way)
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  • Vevvev
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    I personally find skins ugly and never use them. Only one I do use is the Moarmer Fish one since it can hide my vampire appearance while RPing. What make me think a player is skilled is when they have a title like the Flawless Conqueror or Spirit Slayer. Can't get a carry on those achievements and they are very hard to acquire.
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  • nukk3r
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    Vevvev wrote: »
    I personally find skins ugly and never use them. Only one I do use is the Moarmer Fish one since it can hide my vampire appearance while RPing. What make me think a player is skilled is when they have a title like the Flawless Conqueror or Spirit Slayer. Can't get a carry on those achievements and they are very hard to acquire.

    Some people still buy them. It's risky and against ToS because the buyer needs to give login details to the seller but it's not that uncommon.
  • Odovacar
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    I honestly haven't equipped a skin in a long while tbh (skele poly is my fav, lol) and I have all earnable trial skins...but I've helped many get theirs and collected some nice coin along the way B)
  • Athan1
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    Honest question with zero provocation in mind, any examples of when/how it can be immersion breaking? Or is it a lack of in-game justification for them existing on a player characters, I'm actually interested as always reading this point on forum but don't remember being thrown off by any skin yet. I'm more concerned about some names and skimpy outfits myself, lol.
    Anything too extravagant (flashy mounts, glowing pets, extreme outfits, and neon skins) do not really follow lore and break immersion because no NPC has access to any of those. For example, I paid real money to get the Red Diamond skin because I thought it'd look cool. Apart from being ugly, what were these guardians even supposed to be? To connection to TES or ESO lore, just some random flavor text to sell an expensive skin.

    Look at the theme, color, and tones in a town. NPCs are normal people wearing plain clothes. Of course some special NPCs like kings and queens wear something fancier. And of course mages and Daedra may have flares and special effects on them. But how does it not break immersion when you see walking neon signs swarming cities, with glowing eyes and deformed skin? And so many of them, on top of it?

    For immersion, you need to dress and behave like an average person in Tamriel. Sure, every character has different circumstances, and one or two gimmicks make sense. E.g. you may have a rare curse placed on you that changes your skin. But usually, people put all extravagant features together on the same character, leading to neon signs. It can be an eye-sore at times.
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  • Kalik_Gold
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    Titles > skins to me. Plus titles stay on the character used. I like that each character has to earn it themselves. (Even if on same account)
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    Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige

    PvP:
    Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
    Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
    Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
    Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
    Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer

    PvP: (Specialty)
    Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
    Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
    Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
    Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden

    PvE:
    Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
    Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
    Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
    Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
    Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade

    Leveling...
    Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
    Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
    Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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    Passives of another race used. (RP)
    *Breton
    **Imperial




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    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

    Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
    PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion

  • Rudrani
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    Not only can people buy carries, but the very nature of a 12-person group is that people can GET carried. This is why I think dungeon titles and skins are more impressive (titles and skins from 4-person groups, especially 4-person trifecta titles, some of them are even cute and humorous.)
  • SilverBride
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    [ x ] I don't know one skin from another, nor do I care.
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  • wheresbes
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    I started to wear the one I got in vet DoM (earned it), nonetheless, I still experience people that want to do/redo dungeons with me (no death HM yeah, forget it) and people that kick me/complain, it's not very representative it seems :hushed:
  • Spawniaq
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    if you see people running /jumping around naked/bathtowel costume and with skin, they bought definately skin :D btw i am selling skins cheap on ps4/ Eu :D
    Edited by Spawniaq on May 6, 2021 11:30AM
    Ps4 / Eu
  • Anumaril
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    I would say it doesn't because I (and everyone I know) hates how ugly ESO's skins are, making you look like a glowing mess, so we don't use them. And plenty of those people I know are good PvPrs or PvErs.
  • JoDiMageio
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    Nope.

    As mentioned, you can pay for a carry, be carried by friends or guildies, etc.
    Also... they are, for the most part, ugly as heck, and a lot of people just don't wear them.

    Finally, skilled players don't always feel the need to show off skins (or titles for that matter), can only wear one at a time, so I don't think it's any indication of anything. You might have all the trifecta achieves, and still decide to not wear a skin and walk around with a Master Angler title.

    Imo, the only way to really know if a player is skilled or not is to see them in action.
    Edited by JoDiMageio on May 6, 2021 2:03PM
  • Thechuckage
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    Skins and titles are both useless. Only thing that matters to me is that you are fulfilling your role. That skin isn't keeping you alive when you stand in bad. The title isn't boosting your dps.
  • BXR_Lonestar
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    Not a good measure of skill/prestige. People pay for carries all the time.
  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    I try not to look at skins, I find them hideous and not impressive or showing experience at all. Most of them are immersion breaking and has such weird "lore excuses" for them. The only ones I find acceptable are the argonian skins on argonians, and the rare subtle lore fitting ones.
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  • Hal
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    The halls of fabrication literally kicked me out during the final boss battle.
    Every time I've played it, I crash on Final boss, so I've never gotten the stupid shiny tin-man skin, since I've TECHNICALLY never completed the final boss.
    *Blood pressure increases +40*

    Tbh though, if someone is wearing a fancy skin, I am trying to figure out their aesthetic, and if their entire ensamble is nice. Not if they're a better player or anything. I'm not great at the game, so others honestly don't require a fancy skin for me to assume that they're better than me. That's already a given imo.

    But if they can pull off those tacky skins in a fashionable way; now that's impressive.
    Edited by Hal on May 6, 2021 9:02PM
  • El_Borracho
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    Run too much content in this game with people wearing Sunspire or VMOL skins who spend more time being revived than helping the group to believe skins mean anything
  • LalMirchi
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    People pay for carries. No one cares.
    Skins are lucrative. While they are rather useless in my opinion there is a huge market for vanity items.

    https://afkgaming.com/articles/csgo/News/6326-most-expensive-csgo-skin-sells-for-record-dollar150k

    $ 150,000 for some in-game cosmetics, the mind boggles.
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