What if I say NO? The problem with the latest patches is not proc sets, but Malacat. Playstyle where proc sets are used has the right to be, but should not be the only one. This test also exposed the problems of class balance, where if you are not a stamina warden / necromancer / dk, playing pvp is basically pointless.

I don't care either way, I just want them to fix the lag. Drop stadia if you have to, just make Cyrodiil playable again outside of 4am to 10am.

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I really like the no-proc PvP, but the definition of proc sets may be a bit too tight now considering game play.

It may be good if the sets only granting X% of stamina / health / magicka can be used. Anyway, the current allowed list is still fine...

Please keep those sets doing something like "deals x amount of damage if you do some actions" no allowed in PvP.

Agreed, those sets with conditions on user (like Clever Alchemist, etc.) rather than on enemy, would be nice to have.

Much better experience overall. At very large fights there is still lag, but overall the balance seems to be much better. No cheesy situations anymore where you wonder what just happened within two desincs.

I don't mind proc sets to some extend.
Currently I think proc sets are doing too much for a player, all damage proc sets should get some big nerfs in Cyrodiil or be disabled.

I don't have anything against stat based procs like eternal vigor, seducer, warmaiden, balorgh etc.

The general free damage procs (like vate inferno, crimson, venomous etc) can happily go and the free heal procs (like earthgore, good riddance).

There are simply too many sets that are disabled. Sets specifically for Cyrodiil / PvP have been disabled. Only having like 5% all sets available in PvP is a big joke.
There are sets, the should be nerfed and / or disabled. Sure. I agree with that. Yet, the current tests are a joke.

The tests are even worse when taking into account, that additional calculations are added by enabled cross healing again.
Disabling proc sets and enabling cross healing again falsifies the results. [snip]

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I returned in ESO pvp a bit earlier this year after almost 3 years break, and when my husband, who returned as well after a break, asked one of the famous pvp playes on EU what is the meta today, the answer was 'procs + mala = win'. Like in the old days, when viper, red mountain, selene, etc. ruled the cyro. So when I heard that in a few weeks comes this no proc test, I wanted most definitely to take part in it.

Yep, the performance is probably the same, it's hard to say anything about that, because I also changed the country of living, and playing pvp from Russia was always a nightmare. It was always laggy in prime time and it is still so, just a bit better, comparing to Russia.

Speaking about proc sets, playing without them is like a breath of a fresh air. It feels different. Ball groups are finally killable and tanky players are not so tanky anymore. I totally love this, and would love to have such a campaign in Cyro. I would, however, rework or reconsider sets like Alteration Mastery, Seducer, etc. (those, that are not damage/heal proc sets). And a few more other pure stats sets would be awesome to have; to have a bit more variety in builds, including combinations with regen and armor/health in one set, or pure weapon/spell damage sets and so on, so that it would be possible, let's say, to make a full group with specified roles (healer, rapid, damage, support, etc.) with those sets. Or just make whatever you want. Right now the choice is slightly limited.

But overall I like cyro without procs. Make Cyrodiil great again

Okay, after playing a week I think I can definitely say that I personally prefer Cyro without the proc sets. However, as there are a lot of players who like playing with them I'd hope to see that the current no-CP campaign runs with procs disabled and the rest of the campaigns run as usual. It can be called the ultimate level playing field campaign or whatever.

Of course it'd be nice to have some proc sets enabled. For example my most fun joke build was sorc with Prisoner's rags, I'd like that kind of stuff to be still possible...

Although performance remains horrible, I LOVE the no-proc set meta. It feels like pure PvP. If I die, it's because I did something stupid, not because of idiotic, un-counterable proc damage. It is becoming clear who were relying on proc sets to carry them.

I sincerely hope they keep this true non-proc meta (with loosened restrictions on sets like Seducer, etc.). If not, it will be a sad time in Cyro.

I like procs because I'm bored of just using the same 3 abilities that are the only thing making my characters different from one another.

Simply tone them down. Make them scale with stats, so they are more of a utility, than an absolute must to stay competitive.

I miss my ring of the wild hunt, the other sets ? Not so mutch i can do without them

I think the real issue and item that needs to be looked at is "Proc Damage Sets". I think most players would be happy and could live with no free proc damage in the game from sets. The current implantation is simply too broad and takes away tons of flavor from ESO PVP. Pick a flat stat combo and run with it as of this test.