Proc Set Test - Vote for your perference

LightYagami

I just played in the no-proc Cyrodiil and found it really great.
I can't judge the server performance yet, but the game play is definitely much more interesting. Some of us already found that some "unkillable" enemies can be killed now.
What's your opinion (considering game play)?
(you may test for a few more days before voting)

LightYagami

I like the no-proc Cyrodiil, please make it permeant!

I really like the no-proc PvP, but the definition of proc sets may be a bit too tight now considering game play.

It may be good if the sets only granting X% of stamina / health / magicka can be used. Anyway, the current allowed list is still fine...

Please keep those sets doing something like "deals x amount of damage if you do some actions" no allowed in PvP.

techyeshic

I like the no-proc Cyrodiil, please make it permeant!

Maybe give this at least a day? Need to actually play it for long enough to see what people do.

RDMyers65b14_ESO

I like the no-proc Cyrodiil, please make it permeant!

Anything to get rid of crimson.

Vyseman

I like the proc Cyrodiil, Bring me back the proc party in Cyrodiil!.

Procs ofc. i want my Wild Hunt and monsterset back

FantasticFreddie

I like the proc Cyrodiil, Bring me back the proc party in Cyrodiil!.

I think Zos would get a lot of backlash if they banned all but 18 sets in Cyrodiil permanently, and rightly so-- people bought content specifically for some of these sets.

x48rph

FantasticFreddie wrote: »

I think Zos would get a lot of backlash if they banned all but 18 sets in Cyrodiil permanently, and rightly so-- people bought content specifically for some of these sets.

Like they care. The same argument is made every time they do massive changes and yet, every three months is another round. They are very good at ignoring it by now.

LightYagami

I like the no-proc Cyrodiil, please make it permeant!

techyeshic wrote: »

Maybe give this at least a day? Need to actually play it for long enough to see what people do.

I already said that from the very beginning..
"(you may test for a few more days before voting)"

LightYagami

I like the no-proc Cyrodiil, please make it permeant!

RDMyers65b14_ESO wrote: »

Anything to get rid of crimson.

Crimson is really annoying... May be the most OP set at PvP now... No skill at all... It just do everything for you...

kapachia

I'm neutral, either proc or no-proc would be fine.

Maybe allow only one procs set active at time? It will add diversity and not have a single light action causing chained 3 procs dam from it.

So consider allowing only one proc from either monster/two 5 pc proc sets. If someone wears all monster/mythic/5 pc sets, just have one random proc active.

notyuu

I like the no-proc Cyrodiil, please make it permeant!

I think a solid option would be making it so that in pvp proc sets 5th piece bonus is instead replaced with a stat bonus
for example
Zaan
1pc: +833 spell critical
2pc: When you deal damage with a light or heavy attack you have a 33% chance to fire a beam of flames dealign 2010 fire daamge every 1 second for 6 seconds, this damage increased by 100% for every second it fires, if you move more than 8 meters from the target the beam stops working, 18 second coodldown, does not function in PvP
2pc: in PvP grant +350 spell damage

WuChiWuGen

I like the proc Cyrodiil, Bring me back the proc party in Cyrodiil!.

Why buy content if we can't use the new gear? They shooting themselves in the foot.

phil.maricel08ub17_ESO

I like the no-proc Cyrodiil, please make it permeant!

techyeshic wrote: »

Maybe give this at least a day? Need to actually play it for long enough to see what people do.

The second I got hit with a light attack and had 2 different procs put on me was all the time I needed. Also watching a content creator light attack himself to over a million damage in a BG was also all the time I needed to see the proc meta completely ruin PvP.

techyeshic

I like the no-proc Cyrodiil, please make it permeant!

phil.maricel08ub17_ESO wrote: »

techyeshic wrote: »

Maybe give this at least a day? Need to actually play it for long enough to see what people do.

The second I got hit with a light attack and had 2 different procs put on me was all the time I needed. Also watching a content creator light attack himself to over a million damage in a BG was also all the time I needed to see the proc meta completely ruin PvP.

Trust me. I am not a fan of the meta, but I know enough to ask what unintended side effects occur. It's not just damage or heal procs they disabled

CSose

You should wait until near the end of the test to make this poll. We are only about 12 hours into the test right now.

Tommy_The_Gun

I like the no-proc Cyrodiil, please make it permeant!

Great and stuff, but... is it just me, or "break free" / CC break does not work ?
30K stamina and can not do it... did they changed something recently ?

I am pretty sure that both of my mice buttons are working...

the1andonlyskwex

I like the proc Cyrodiil, Bring me back the proc party in Cyrodiil!.

I don't think completely breaking a majority of the sets in the game in PvP is a good idea.

If ZOS is going to make that permanent, they're going to have to explicitly give people separate PvP loadouts, and probably totally disconnect PvP gear from PvE gear (as in, the only gear allowed in PvP will have to be earned in PvP, with some sort of baseline gear provided when you join a campaign for the first time).

colossalvoids

I like the no-proc Cyrodiil, please make it permeant!

Can't even believe that pvp can be that fun again. Strange times for sure.

SshadowSscale

I like the no-proc Cyrodiil, please make it permeant!

kapachia wrote: »

Maybe allow only one procs set active at time? It will add diversity and not have a single light action causing chained 3 procs dam from it.

So consider allowing only one proc from either monster/two 5 pc proc sets. If someone wears all monster/mythic/5 pc sets, just have one random proc active.

This could be a good idea by allowing you to use either a monster set or a mythic or a 5 piece or a weapon set with a proc but not all 4 at once...

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Great and stuff, but... is it just me, or "break free" / CC break does not work ?
30K stamina and can not do it... did they changed something recently ?

I am pretty sure that both of my mice buttons are working...

Been broken for years multiple bug reports and all you get is an email telling you to not spread false rumors... rip

caperb

I like the no-proc Cyrodiil, please make it permeant!

I would like to keep Vicious Death though

Nordic__Knights

I'm neutral, either proc or no-proc would be fine.

with how zos treats procs and what all falls under proc sets id say sets need an re work more then we need none proc pvp atm , now if they are able to re work what an proc is then having none proc pvp might be ok but under the sets atm that aint proc related 15/500 sets that leaves way to many sets useless and thats bad for game

SshadowSscale

I like the no-proc Cyrodiil, please make it permeant!

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

with how zos treats procs and what all falls under proc sets id say sets need an re work more then we need none proc pvp atm , now if they are able to re work what an proc is then having none proc pvp might be ok but under the sets atm that aint proc related 15/500 sets that leaves way to many sets useless and thats bad for game

I am sure that a lot of sets will be adjusyed if the data show a significant enough improvement in performance with no procs with will give us more set and on top of that all cyrodil sets will be reworked to not be procs and possibly bgs and ic sets to if zos adds the no proc condition to all of the pvp zones

Yuke

Who *** cares, still lags like ***.

Prax3des

I like the proc Cyrodiil, Bring me back the proc party in Cyrodiil!.

If the game's going to be lagging just as bad, and it has been this afternoon & evening, I'd rather be lagging with my procs than not.

Nordic__Knights

I'm neutral, either proc or no-proc would be fine.

SshadowSscale wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

with how zos treats procs and what all falls under proc sets id say sets need an re work more then we need none proc pvp atm , now if they are able to re work what an proc is then having none proc pvp might be ok but under the sets atm that aint proc related 15/500 sets that leaves way to many sets useless and thats bad for game

I am sure that a lot of sets will be adjusyed if the data show a significant enough improvement in performance with no procs with will give us more set and on top of that all cyrodil sets will be reworked to not be procs and possibly bgs and ic sets to if zos adds the no proc condition to all of the pvp zones

there aint any i just logged in and geared out went into pvp and nothing changed other then not dealing with procs but lag is still bad was jumping/skipping around with skills not going off while solo on an ress fighting nothing but npcs 2 keeps away from frontlines where the fight was going on
SO NO PROC SETS BEING IN OR OUT MAKES GAME BETTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOPE THEY CAN GET AN REAL FIX AT SOME POINT AS NOTHING HAS HELPED BUT TO UP THE SERVER USE/POWER FOR PVP ZONE LIKE FOR EVENTS

silky_soft

I like the no-proc Cyrodiil, please make it permeant!

From an OCE perspective playing in NA prime. It's significantly better. We can actually get some skills off instead of just running around and dying. Lots of lag in huge fights, but we can actually do something. Nothing like before, no dc or desync yet.

master_vanargand

I like the no-proc Cyrodiil, please make it permeant!

I play with CP Cyrodiil of PC NA. (3 alliance is full)
The game balance is good and fun.
But server performance is bad.
It may be due to heal skills.

Lord_Draevan

I'm neutral, either proc or no-proc would be fine.

Ideally there would be proc campaigns and no-proc campaigns, like how there's CP and no-CP campaigns. That way everyone's happy.
Based on what I've seen so far, I'd personally pick the no-proc campaigns, but I get others would want procs enabled.

TPishek

I'm neutral, either proc or no-proc would be fine.

It doesn't really matter if there are proc sets active or not if skills aren't working and I'm constantly being kicked to the login screen. This hasn't affected performance in a positive way in the slightest.

LightYagami

I like the no-proc Cyrodiil, please make it permeant!

notyuu wrote: »

I think a solid option would be making it so that in pvp proc sets 5th piece bonus is instead replaced with a stat bonus
for example
Zaan
1pc: +833 spell critical
2pc: When you deal damage with a light or heavy attack you have a 33% chance to fire a beam of flames dealign 2010 fire daamge every 1 second for 6 seconds, this damage increased by 100% for every second it fires, if you move more than 8 meters from the target the beam stops working, 18 second coodldown, does not function in PvP
2pc: in PvP grant +350 spell damage

I'd like to see similar changes too.
Natures of PvP and PvE are far different from each other but the two game modes are adopting the same set of gears - it's one of the factors making PvP balance of this game so horrible.

Some sets might be created for fighting dungeon or trial mobs or bosses, but they perform extremely overpowered in PvP.
For example Crimson maybe a good PvE tank set but it's broken-strong in PvP.
If ZOS nerf the set for balancing PvP, PvEers will be unhappy; If ZOS keep the set as it is for PvE, PvPers will be unhappy.

One of the solutions making both sides satisfied could be simply separate some bonuses in PvP / PvE.
If the sets are used in PvP, they should not directly deal damage for you, but they can ASSIST you.

Personally I don't like proc sets, however I understand that as some people mentioned, ZOS want players to buy new contents for new gears, so it's unlikely they'll remove all proc sets in Cyrodiil...
I'm not any kind of programmers and I have no idea about how difficult it is to code different set bonuses, but I hope they'll at least do something for PvP (if they still care)...

Syrpynt

kapachia wrote: »

Maybe allow only one procs set active at time? It will add diversity and not have a single light action causing chained 3 procs dam from it.

So consider allowing only one proc from either monster/two 5 pc proc sets. If someone wears all monster/mythic/5 pc sets, just have one random proc active.

This is stupid. Look:

One of my PvP characters was running:
• Maelstrom Battleaxe
• Master's Dual Wield
• Blood Drinker
• Unleashed Fury

If only one of those is active at a time, It's still overpowered. I'm a PROC USER IN CYRO only because everyone else was using them and they're stronger than base-stat sets!! It was *dumb*! I am tired of so much cheese in Cyro, I'm willing to give up my own proc builds to see skill beat skill (which is what PvP should be about, not who farmed longer than who, or who has more gold).


edited myself for profane language.