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Character flagged for rename? Why god, why?

  • Vikes546b16_ESO
    Ooh, I wonder if this means the Nord I saw the other day named Mighty Longpenis has to get a name change too. That'd be a shame.
  • starkerealm
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    Bunk wrote: »
    Paks_ESO wrote: »
    Go read the CoC Behavior policy please. You can find it in the support section by searching for "naming policy".
    Could you read it for me? Thanks.

    Well, I can't read it to you... I just tried and it didn't work.
  • Tipsy
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    Vez wrote: »

    Prohibiting names that Zenimax wants to reserve and names that are offensive is enough. Anything more is completely arbitrary and impossibly restrictive. No matter what Nintendo believes, they do not own all uses of the name "Mario" and they can't possibly sue Zenimax for a player using it.

    Agreed..Names like Mario is pushing it too far I think
    Then nearly all names would be prohibited Frank,Michael,David,Hildegarde
    Those names are prefectly fine and are not disturbing like;
    'lux skywalker' 'kyleiscool' 'ferfgofdfdf' fieslfroofds' 'eedd' 'rrtt' 'vampireking'
    those are the kinds of names that are disturbing


    Edited by Tipsy on April 24, 2014 1:40AM
  • Sakiri
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    Glurin wrote: »
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    Glurin wrote: »
    Has there ever actually been a copyright/trademark suit filed over a player's character name in any game?

    Well....
    eq2wire.com/2013/07/24/character-blocked-from-eq2u-due-to-trademark-claim/

    :neutral_face:

    Yeah that made me laugh.

    Personally, Id have forwarded it to SOE, got Brad to write up a mail with information to contact their legal department and then lol'd.

    Guy would have run like a wuss from a letter by them.

    Thing is, it's not just this one guy. Groups like RIAA, MPAA and their ilk are very, very, very trigger happy when it comes to copyright claims. There's even firms that file tons of lawsuits, but don't actually represent the people they say they do.

    Then there's also cases like Marvel suing NCsoft over the ability to create characters similar to Marvel trademark characters.

    That said, there is a tendency among many players to be a little "unimaginative" when it comes to creating a character. Like they're trying to figure out how many different ways they can spell Gandalf.
    Yes, however most of these trolls flee when faced with legal letters. Theyre hoping youre an idiot.

    I had a landlord try that with a comfort animal. Theyre protected under ADA for matters regarding housing, but dont get full service animal status for accessibility, ie: I cant take her to the mall with me.

    They tried to hope I was an idiot. "Would you like my lawyer to contact you?" got thier butts in line quick.

    Same goes for most of the trademark and copyright trolls.
  • Valethar
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    Has there ever actually been a copyright/trademark suit filed over a player's character name in any game?

    Marvel Comics tried to sue the devs behind City of Heroes for player generated clones of licensed characters. It later came out that some of the characters had actually been made by investigators working for Marvel's lawyers.

    Yup. The really ironic part is that Marvel went with Cryptic to develop their MMO shortly after the settlement.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Heroes#Suit_by_Marvel
    Edited by Valethar on April 24, 2014 1:42AM
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  • starkerealm
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    Valethar wrote: »
    Has there ever actually been a copyright/trademark suit filed over a player's character name in any game?

    Marvel Comics tried to sue the devs behind City of Heroes for player generated clones of licensed characters. It later came out that some of the characters had actually been made by investigators working for Marvel's lawyers.

    Yup. The really ironic part is that Marvel went with Cryptic to develop their MMO shortly after the settlement.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Heroes#Suit_by_Marvel

    There was a conspiracy theory going around years ago that Marvel's real goal was to actually get control of Cryptic for themselves. Sort of like how Wizards of the Coast ate TSR. Afterwards they went to Cryptic to develop a Marvel MMO, though I'm not sure when development went sour and Cryptic moved to the Champions IP.
  • Tipsy
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    Are Marvel Comics and City of Heroes both super hero titles?with same style of grahics perhaps too
    Even if you wanted to recreate Mario for example,you'd have a hard time
    Actually makes me curious how close one can gets,not very close I think since its a total different style.
    But it actually makes me wonder...

    Perhaps if someone used names like Andraste from Dragon Age it could cause more problems,although that character has never been displayed :/
    Edited by Tipsy on April 24, 2014 1:59AM
  • loco
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    There is no legal basis to sue for trademarked player generated names.
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    loco wrote: »
    There is no legal basis to sue for trademarked player generated names.
    You say that like it's ever stopped an overly litigious jackass from sending out demand letters.

  • loco
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    loco wrote: »
    There is no legal basis to sue for trademarked player generated names.
    You say that like it's ever stopped an overly litigious jackass from sending out demand letters.

    Counter sue for harassment.

  • Valethar
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    Tipsy wrote: »
    Are Marvel Comics and City of Heroes both super hero titles?with same style of grahics perhaps too

    Even if you wanted to recreate Mario for example,you'd have a hard time

    Actually makes me curious how close one can gets,not very close I think since its a total different style.

    Actually, with the character generator for City of Heroes, it was ridiculously easy to create characters that resembled some Marvel and DC characters so closely that there was little doubt who there were supposed to be. There were regular costume contests specifically for that purpose, with people creating disposable characters that they'd delete afterward.

    My brother and I did Power Man and Iron Fist for one such contest. I saw several variations on those, as well as The Wasp, Ant Man, Capt. America, Ms. Marvel, Sgt. Rock, Wolverine and numerous others. It wasn't hard at all.

    They may not have been exact duplicates (though my brother and I did a fairly good job on ours) but they were certainly close enough that anyone familiar with the characters knew exactly who they were.

    Edit: Found an old screenshot from one of those. You can see my brother and I, as well as someone with an Optimus Prime character in this pic.

    coh001.jpg
    Edited by Valethar on April 24, 2014 3:27AM
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  • shadoshryke
    Art Vandelay, from Vandelay enterprises? I am wondering what other names you had though! :)

    Art Vandalay from Sienfeld. Still seems a fine name that should be allowed.

    But I'm more than happy for ZMO to block stupid, juvenile names en-masse though.

    Unfortunately, the specific combination can be seen as breaking copyright/intellectual property laws and restrictions.

    It happens in almost every MMO that is founded by companies that don't want to lose a lot of profit by having to settle a non-sense law suit. These type of lawsuits costs time and money over a couple years even if you are in the right.
  • Tipsy
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    Superhero's are not in line with elderscrolls and therefore should not be allowed.

    But no way that Nintendo could sue ZOS if a character with a moustach showed up called Mario.
    There are several Mario's with moustach like Mario Cimarro,Mario Falcone,...
    Nobody should be allowed to have copy rights to Mario
    Whatever Mario is designed in ESO is in the boundaries of their design tools.
    Only if the player would roleplay and show itself as that exact Mario it would be wrong.

    I wonder about Miss Scarlett too,alias Kasandra Scarlet,alias Josephine Scarlet,alias Lesley Ann Warren,alias Crimson Lady,..
    what are they going to do about it if a character is somewhat shady and has multiple names?
    One of my characters is based on the first character that gets murdered in my all times favorite game of the 90's
    It's of a game serie they stopped producing and to me it means alot to keep the memory alive
    The series died,so I play a character that bears somewhat the same name of the first character that died in the game
    Though that is where the similarity stops.And nobody knows or even remembers the game anyway

    Ofcourse if someone is roleplaying Darth Vader in elder scrolls this won't do,at all.Wrong setting,different genre,style,...
    Edited by Tipsy on April 24, 2014 5:11AM
  • AngryNord
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    Ooh, I wonder if this means the Nord I saw the other day named Mighty Longpenis has to get a name change too. That'd be a shame.

    What do People think when the give their character a name like that in an MMO...
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