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Given it seems both Vampires and Wws are receiving an update are you more willing to buy Greymoor?

Thevampirenight
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Since the cat is pretty much out of the bag Werewolf is getting an update by the looks of it and the same video shows off possible unadjusted vampirism numbers inadvertently reveals this. Does this make it so you are more likely to buy the chapter?
So Both Vampires and Werewolves are both getting huge love this chapter.
They just didn't bother telling us about the Werewolf Overhaul. :s When they should have.
So the poll has several options including an other option and one if you have greymoor the text is extra flavor because I had to refund it because I bought the wrong version and it cost me more money when I could have gotten the cheaper upgrade but soon after got the cheaper ditital collecters edition upgrade so I just re bought it after the refund and used the rest from the refund on crowns or subcription. So that is why that text is there because of myself and that is the poll option I'm choosing.
Edited by Thevampirenight on March 31, 2020 8:13AM
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Please add Fangs to Vampires.

Given it seems both Vampires and Wws are receiving an update are you more willing to buy Greymoor? 119 votes

Yes because of the Vampire Update I'm More likely to Buy it.
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EirikirGrianasteri 2 votes
Yes because of the Werewolf Update I'm more likely to buy it then if they didn't do a Werewolf Overhaul.
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StxcraybestQbikenAngelaWasp 4 votes
Yes because they are updating both skill lines is the only reason I'm considering it.
2%
ScardyFoxMetamonesp1992 3 votes
No the Vampire changes make me not want to buy it.
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peacenoteMyythBobby_V_RockitSshadowSscaleThannazzarpoeArgelornNoxavianLangestonTheFMObvaricator 11 votes
No the Changes that might make Werewolf Meta for the First time is the reason I'm considering not buying it now that I know about this.
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No because of other reasons.
49%
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Other.
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idkVevvevKalik_GoldgeneralmyrickNordic__KnightsYe_Olde_CroweCirantilleMerguezManMortiis13 9 votes
I already Bought the Chapter and not refunding it. (Unless I bought the wrong version)
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I'm buying the chapter but because of Skyrim alone. Not Vampirism or Lycanthropy.
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Cireousalainjbrennanb16_ESOHurbsterSewerFairySarannahKatahdinZeroXFFChaos2088JoelthasSephyrtomofhyruleAscarlJoinovikovaLuke_Flamesword 14 votes
  • GerStyler
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    No because of other reasons.
    I buy nothing until Performance is fixed !!!
  • Eifleber
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    No because of other reasons.
    Bad poll if 50% of the poeple vote the option "other"

    I miss the option

    o no because i don' t play werewolves or vampires and I don' t plan to

    Playing since dec 2019 | PC EU
  • JumpmanLane
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    No because of other reasons.
    oh HECK no lmao. The game is BROKEN and i don't think ZOS cares to fix it AT ALL.
    I already pre-ordered Greymoor AND I already got a refund lol. What else ya wanna know lol
  • SosRuvaak
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    No because of other reasons.
    Nothing they add will be good because the servers are run off hamsters that are at the end of their lifes. Or are disabled. Poor things.
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  • Fischblut
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    I already Bought the Chapter and not refunding it. (Unless I bought the wrong version)
    I bought this chapter mostly for Death Hound mount + pet, and for Jarl costume... :D
    I'm disappointed by everything else, based on fresh videos which we've got :/ Can't wait for PTS anyway.
  • Grianasteri
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    Yes because of the Vampire Update I'm More likely to Buy it.
    Not quite got an option to cover my stance... but I intend to purchase the DLC, the same as I have all the previous DLCs. The fact that Vampires are finally receiving a long over due update and full skill line, is an extremely welcome development and results in my being more excited about this DLC, than I think any other since Vvardenfell.

    I recently created a vampire themed character (magblade) specifically in preparation! I cant wait!
  • Danikat
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    No because of other reasons.
    I have one vampire I rarely play and no werewolves, so that's largely irrelevant to me and besides it's a base game update which everyone will get regardless of whether they buy the expansion or not.

    What's actually in the chapter seems surprisingly minimal; new map, new storylines and a collectible system, but that's basically what we'd expect from a story DLC. If they were charging £20 for it, about the same as Orsinium or Morrowind and Summerset after the stripped out the extras and put just the zone in the crown store as DLC then I'd buy it. But since it's £32.99 just for the standard upgrade (the cheapest version) I'm going to wait for a sale.
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  • Eifleber
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    No because of other reasons.
    Danikat wrote: »
    since it's £32.99 just for the standard upgrade (the cheapest version) I'm going to wait for a sale.
    Just buy a game key from a 3rd party key seller, I payed less than that for the collector's version.


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  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    I'm buying the chapter but because of Skyrim alone. Not Vampirism or Lycanthropy.
    even though i put this iam still unhappy with greymoor, as zos seems to have done things lazy again, it seems solitude has been copied and pasted from skyrim, you walk under the arch way to see the gallows to the right and the tavern to the left, even though skyrim is a thousand years into the future
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  • Hurbster
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    I'm buying the chapter but because of Skyrim alone. Not Vampirism or Lycanthropy.
    Only care about how quick they die if they get in my way. Never had any interest in playing one.
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  • colossalvoids
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    No because of other reasons.
    Interesting if people read carefully as first passive for vamp implies that 1-4 stages would increase skill cost by 5-20% and decrease ones from vampire tree. Idk how to like that at all even after some upgrades.
  • heaven13
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    I hope everyone who plans on buying this chapter just for vampire/werewolf realizes it comes with the patch update, not the chapter itself.
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  • Thevampirenight
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    I already Bought the Chapter and not refunding it. (Unless I bought the wrong version)
    heaven13 wrote: »
    I hope everyone who plans on buying this chapter just for vampire/werewolf realizes it comes with the patch update, not the chapter itself.

    Yeah I think many people know that. Its just playing the new storyline involving vampires and werewolves.
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    Please add Fangs to Vampires.
  • ScardyFox
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    Yes because they are updating both skill lines is the only reason I'm considering it.
    heaven13 wrote: »
    I hope everyone who plans on buying this chapter just for vampire/werewolf realizes it comes with the patch update, not the chapter itself.

    Its one in the same for me. If zenni fixes the game in ways that me and others alike have been begging for (for literally years), I will happily pay for the game in said regard. I put my money where I am happy basically.
  • CMDR_Un1k0rn
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    Before I vote, what has been said about werewolves?
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  • bearbelly
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    Where did you see that Werewolf is getting some adjustments?
    Do you think you could link a source instead of just saying so? Because it wasn't in any of the Preview videos done by the three content providers I watched.
  • Cirantille
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    Other.
    I am not buying an expansion I can not play due to this performance :joy:

    What am I gonna do with it, cuddle it in cold nights???

    Ps. These changes will be applied to base game since vampire and werewolf exist in base game.
  • Nordic__Knights
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    Other.
    Any changes they do to vampire or ww will be free to all players no matter if they get new chapter or just base game so really this has nothing to do with buying ANYTHING
  • Thevampirenight
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    I already Bought the Chapter and not refunding it. (Unless I bought the wrong version)
    It was shown in a video, Though I don't think the person noticed the actual changes so you have to pause the video to see it and keep pausing it.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUIKGkENMK0&feature=emb_title

    It starts at 7:40.

    Werewolf right now with the pounce ability as it is on live. Copied from my other thread.

    Roar with bloodlust to terrify up to 6 nearby enemies, fearing them for 4 seconds.

    Greymoor Pounce Ability.
    When you do it and then do it again within the next five seconds pounce will do this it will cast Carnage.
    The Second cast will add a bleed effect dealing damage for ten seconds and then do 400 or 450% More damage to enemies below 100% Health by the looks of it.

    Hircines Bounty- Right now it just does this Invoke the Huntsman's blessing, healing you for 45% of your Max Health.unmorphed.
    Greymoor Hircines Bounty will heal up to 10k health. While Slotted gain major brutality Increasing your weapons damage by 20 percent. This is as long as its on your bar you get a slotted major brutality.


    Roar right now Roar with bloodlust to terrify up to 6 nearby enemies, fearing them for 4 seconds.
    Greymoor- Roar will set enemies off balance for seven seconds along with fearing them.
    When slotted grants major savagery increasing your weapons critical rating by 2100 something.
    Peircing Howl Deals Crush enemy with a deafening howl, dealing 1139 Physical Damage Currently.
    Greymoor its getting increased to 7k and while enemies are facing you it does 10% more damage.
    The last one I couldn't see as he didn't show that off but I beleive that it too will be buffed.
    Edited by Thevampirenight on March 31, 2020 11:36AM
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    Please add Fangs to Vampires.
  • Wolfchild07
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    No because of other reasons.
    They will both get nerfed later anyway.
  • Gythral
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    No because of other reasons.
    No until PC-EU is a server worth playing on, not a total joke!
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  • Ye_Olde_Crowe
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    Other.
    I preordered the expansion so I have more content to explore once it goes live... just like I bought every other expansion so far.
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  • Nordic__Knights
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    Other.
    It was shown in a video, Though I don't think the person noticed the actual changes so you have to pause the video to see it and keep pausing it.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUIKGkENMK0&feature=emb_title

    It starts at 7:40.

    Werewolf right now with the pounce ability as it is on live. Copied from my other thread.

    Roar with bloodlust to terrify up to 6 nearby enemies, fearing them for 4 seconds.

    Greymoor Pounce Ability.
    When you do it and then do it again within the next five seconds pounce will do this it will cast Carnage.
    The Second cast will add a bleed effect dealing damage for ten seconds and then do 400 or 450% More damage to enemies below 100% Health by the looks of it.

    Hircines Bounty- Right now it just does this Invoke the Huntsman's blessing, healing you for 45% of your Max Health.unmorphed.
    Greymoor Hircines Bounty will heal up to 10k health. While Slotted gain major brutality Increasing your weapons damage by 20 percent. This is as long as its on your bar you get a slotted major brutality.


    Roar right now Roar with bloodlust to terrify up to 6 nearby enemies, fearing them for 4 seconds.
    Greymoor- Roar will set enemies off balance for seven seconds along with fearing them.
    When slotted grants major savagery increasing your weapons critical rating by 2100 something.
    Peircing Howl Deals Crush enemy with a deafening howl, dealing 1139 Physical Damage Currently.
    Greymoor its getting increased to 7k and while enemies are facing you it does 10% more damage.
    The last one I couldn't see as he didn't show that off but I beleive that it too will be buffed.

    WOW i dont think ZOS is going to like that coming out they themselves aint even said ww was getting touched at all yet they touched every skill
  • Thevampirenight
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    I already Bought the Chapter and not refunding it. (Unless I bought the wrong version)
    I acuatlly didn't noticed it at first I was going to make a thread about how werewolves were being treated by the justice system but I took a second look as I wondered if they were going to change anything and saw the skills and went and looked at how it works on live right now ironically I think it was the same person that likely runs that website that show cases how abilities work that I got the current live werewolf stats from.

    There is major changes to the Werewolf and it could be clearly seen as day if you looked at it.
    So that is when I knew they are improving werewolves. That is when changed and posted that other thread so others would know about it because werewolves do need it and players are actually quitting or uninstalling because of how they are treated.
    Some refuse to buy Greymoor because of what has been done to werewolves, this along with my excitement at seeing these changes to the werewolf. Is why I shared it.
    So it looks like they are coming and its nice that they are and Zenimax should have told us about this sooner.
    Edited by Thevampirenight on March 31, 2020 12:12PM
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    Please add Fangs to Vampires.
  • Crixus8000
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    No because of other reasons.
    SosRuvaak wrote: »
    Nothing they add will be good because the servers are run off hamsters that are at the end of their lifes. Or are disabled. Poor things.

    This

  • peacenote
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    No the Vampire changes make me not want to buy it.
    There are multiple reasons as a loyal customer that I have not yet bought the expansion. I picked the vampire changes because it is the point of the poll but these are my frustrations with the game right now:

    - LA/HA proposed changes don't seem good for healing and, as usual, the role seems to have not been considered in this design
    - I * like * the way vampire is currently, for a variety of reasons, and while I am not against improvements I am unhappy with the loss of functionality I enjoy. I would have preferred another vampire line while leaving the current one mostly intact.
    - I dislike the trend of making certain abilities criminal acts
    - I am extremely unhappy that queuing with friends in BG's was removed

    Honestly performance issues aren't even my biggest gripe. It is the steady stream of simplification and LOSS of features. I understand that sometimes things need to be sacrificed for balance but now things are just flat out being removed. Horrible strategy for paying customers.

    Also I am wondering what happens to your current vampires if you don't buy the expansion. Do they stay as-is or will we LOSE access to the functionality and be reset to non-vampiric characters? If it is the latter... oh look, another LOSS.
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  • Faulgor
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    Neither the Vampire nor the Werewolf changes are part of the Greymoor chapter, though.
    They come with the base game update and are therefore free.
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  • relentless_turnip
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    No because of other reasons.
    It looks like they have done a great job on this chapter and watching the reveals yesterday only reminded me how excited I am to play it.
    Then I was overcome with a great sadness as I remembered how broken the game is...
    I cannot buy it until they fix performance.
    Even if they could get it to dragonhold standard I would buy it.
  • Nordic__Knights
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    peacenote wrote: »
    There are multiple reasons as a loyal customer that I have not yet bought the expansion. I picked the vampire changes because it is the point of the poll but these are my frustrations with the game right now:

    - LA/HA proposed changes don't seem good for healing and, as usual, the role seems to have not been considered in this design
    - I * like * the way vampire is currently, for a variety of reasons, and while I am not against improvements I am unhappy with the loss of functionality I enjoy. I would have preferred another vampire line while leaving the current one mostly intact.
    - I dislike the trend of making certain abilities criminal acts
    - I am extremely unhappy that queuing with friends in BG's was removed

    Honestly performance issues aren't even my biggest gripe. It is the steady stream of simplification and LOSS of features. I understand that sometimes things need to be sacrificed for balance but now things are just flat out being removed. Horrible strategy for paying customers.

    Also I am wondering what happens to your current vampires if you don't buy the expansion. Do they stay as-is or will we LOSE access to the functionality and be reset to non-vampiric characters? If it is the latter... oh look, another LOSS.

    the chance will happen no matter what its not something you'll have to pay for but you will feel its effects
  • technohic
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    No because of other reasons.
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