Delayed abilities and break free

Lortie · February 2020

The smoothness of the combat is what I loved about ESO and after this patch its kinda lost its magic. Pretty much prime-time lag in low pop and BGs. If this isn't fixed it kinda kills ESO for me tbh.

iCaliban · February 2020

MrWright72 wrote: »

The smoothness of the combat is what I loved about ESO and after this patch its kinda lost its magic. Pretty much prime-time lag in low pop and BGs. If this isn't fixed it kinda kills ESO for me tbh.

Well put. And precisely how many of us feel. This needs to be a priority fix for zos.

@ZOS_GinaBruno any chance you can let us know if you are aware of the issue?

snoozy · February 2020

same here. is it lag?

jadarock · February 2020

How would it be lag if it started with zos's patch?

It's their spaghetti coding ...the more they change how things work the worse performance gets.
It's pretty obvious not sure how this isnt evident to everyone

iCaliban · February 2020

snoozy wrote: »

same here. is it lag?

It appears to be an unintended side effect from the changes to block casting

Fur_like_snow · February 2020

Now it’s about which janky CC will bug out players this patch.

Try it yourself. Get a warden friend to hit you with artic blast then CC break then hit block. see long it takes between the break and when you actually start blocking. It forces you to sit thru the CC break animation so the warden gets 2-3 cheap shots on you in the meantime.

Stop messing with animations Zeni gawd. 🙄

iCaliban · February 2020

Fur_like_snow wrote: »

Now it’s about which janky CC will bug out players this patch.

Try it yourself. Get a warden friend to hit you with artic blast then CC break then hit block. see long it takes between the break and when you actually start blocking. It forces you to sit thru the CC break animation so the warden gets 2-3 cheap shots on you in the meantime.

Stop messing with animations Zeni gawd. 🙄

It isnt just artic blast. I have had trouble - same issue as you, being forced to sit through a long animation - breaking fossilize, streak, javelin, rune cage, dawnbreaker stun, etc. You get the point.

Lylith · February 2020

Opalblade wrote: »

I've been getting this too. Seems like sometimes even switching bars is delayed.

switching bars in pvp was always a crapshoot, it's just much worse now, esp if you counting on it for ani-cancel.

MirkoZ · February 2020

+1

iCaliban · February 2020

Lylith wrote: »

Opalblade wrote: »

I've been getting this too. Seems like sometimes even switching bars is delayed.

switching bars in pvp was always a crapshoot, it's just much worse now, esp if you counting on it for ani-cancel.

Everything appears to be not working. Bar swaps not going off, cant break free reliably, abilities not firing yet costing resources. Etc

iCaliban · February 2020

After speaking to guild members we have also discovered frequent issues with ultimates not casting if you attempt to bar swap cancel or block cancel.

precambria · February 2020

Without cancel in this game it will be completely unplayable, the combat feels broken which I am really hoping is lag but my ping is good lately. Performance fix = make the game play as slow as if it were lagging to the extreme to cover the fact it is, but than it also lags out and doubles up into a pile of flamed garbage.

Probably not what happened I actually fully expect it to be working in under 2 weeks, as much as it seems like they don't play this game for sure they have people who do and have since it came out, there is no way those people would let this stand lol

red_emu · February 2020

I think ZOS already mentioned several times, that they are keeping an eye on those changes and how they can produce additional bugs. You just have to wait it out. It'll be fixed eventually (like the running on top of a horse, weapon at your feet, etc 😉).

Granicus · February 2020

Not sure if this is related but sounds like it. In PvE not experiencing any perceptible lag I occasionally hit skills and they do not fire. When using Puncturing Sweep on my Temp, for example, it can mean I die, unnecessarily, since it’s my main heal (in some builds).

Since U25 I have also been getting roll/dodge ‘stuttering’ which usually causes death if I’m trying to avoid heavy AoE from Bosses. I’m also experiencing bar swapping problems too!

These are unintended side effects of a purposeful change by ZOS? Do they actually do much testing on their own PTS or simply wait for unpaid beta testers (Customers) to complain enough to prioritize the very few problems they will take action on? In their own good time. After new Crown Store trinkets.

themaddaedra · February 2020

I can confirm the delay myself as well. Had some unpleasant time in battlegrounds trying to figure out whatever is going on. Break free is super delayed, mostly causing you to rip before you even manage to break free. And more often than not, skills won't fire for a few seconds. Especially after barswap, if i'm not mistaken.

And it is not lag. Battlegrounds are never laggy of sorts anyway.

Fur_like_snow · February 2020

The animations are completely borked on CC break. In a zero lag zero addon situation I am still forced to sit thru the entire CC break animation before I have control of my character again.

Somehow they actually managed to make a worse version of the game.

TheFM · February 2020

Welcome to the triple break free club!

Iskiab · February 2020

If you’ve been fighting against faction stacks this is the status quo. The only difference it looks like it’s spread to other parts of pvp.

iCaliban · February 2020

red_emu wrote: »

I think ZOS already mentioned several times, that they are keeping an eye on those changes and how they can produce additional bugs. You just have to wait it out. It'll be fixed eventually (like the running on top of a horse, weapon at your feet, etc 😉).

This is the feedback. Combat is in the worst states its ever been.

Iskiab wrote: »

If you’ve been fighting against faction stacks this is the status quo. The only difference it looks like it’s spread to other parts of pvp.

Pretty clearly stated several times in my post and others that this issue is new, unlike cyrodil lag, and is occuring in places that never had significant ability delay such as bgs.

coletas · February 2020

ykculnu wrote: »

iCaliban wrote: »

As we know, animation cancelling via blocking was changed this patch. This post is not about that.

Many guild members and myself have noticed frequent and consistently delayed abilities and lag when breaking free. Neither was supposed to be changed with the patch. Can we get some information on this?

I can't reliably cast toppling charge into jabs, crescent sweep, or really anything. My character just kinda sits there for 0.5 - 1 second and then starts to cast. My burst is basically dead.

happens to me exactly the same. everything goes after 1 second. Even block cancelling and LA... that LA goes 1 second after lol

RD065 · February 2020

Sometimes I can't use Endless Hail when stamina is full. Nothing happens. I have to press the button like 5 times. Other skills as well.

iCaliban · February 2020

RD065 wrote: »

Sometimes I can't use Endless Hail when stamina is full. Nothing happens. I have to press the button like 5 times. Other skills as well.

That is in line with what most people are reporting

Cinbri · February 2020

Idk how zos managed to ruin it in just 1 night. Played on 1st day right after update launch and everything was perfectly fluid for me with no problems mentioned above, but than next day and going on exactly same problems - skill delay for 1.5s, CC Break not work till you get through entire animations of CCs that can be stacked on you.
Even crafted Combatant set that CC Break for you to see if it caused by lag or smth on my side - and even automatic break free set don't break CC reliably, so it definitely not on our side.

zDan · February 2020

Theres been a skill delay since the end of midyear mayhem, they just wont go off after pressing them 5+ times

AMeanOne · February 2020

zDan wrote: »

Theres been a skill delay since the end of midyear mayhem, they just wont go off after pressing them 5+ times

Pretty sure they're all on PC, we got early access to the delay on console

iCaliban · February 2020

zDan wrote: »

Theres been a skill delay since the end of midyear mayhem, they just wont go off after pressing them 5+ times

Lag is common in eso. But im trying to keep this post focused on changes since the patch.

There is a significant delay and change in how abilities operate since tuesday even in normally lag free eviroments

JumpmanLane · March 2020

iCaliban wrote: »

zDan wrote: »

Theres been a skill delay since the end of midyear mayhem, they just wont go off after pressing them 5+ times

Lag is common in eso. But im trying to keep this post focused on changes since the patch.

There is a significant delay and change in how abilities operate since tuesday even in normally lag free eviroments

Yup. This. I’ve had block and skills related to block, break free for example and dodge roll simply not fire. Solo in a PvE dungeon with 84 ping and 60 FPS (60 hrz monitor).

It ain’t necessarily lag lol.

iCaliban · March 2020

JumpmanLane wrote: »

iCaliban wrote: »

zDan wrote: »

Theres been a skill delay since the end of midyear mayhem, they just wont go off after pressing them 5+ times

Lag is common in eso. But im trying to keep this post focused on changes since the patch.

There is a significant delay and change in how abilities operate since tuesday even in normally lag free eviroments

Yup. This. I’ve had block and skills related to block, break free for example and dodge roll simply not fire. Solo in a PvE dungeon with 84 ping and 60 FPS (60 hrz monitor).

It ain’t necessarily lag lol.

Hopefully the devs are aware of this and have a fix in place

precambria · March 2020

It's not just lag, or the fact my skills are locked out. The things I am seeing on my screen don't make sense as far as when damage happens or what skills are going off when, this in combination with the inability to use my own abilities or react to CC which just randomly hits multiple times in a row I just literally stand there and die trying to get one spell off. IT's 100% broken I'm not sure I even want to play this game if it does get fixed because this just shows they can break the game at any time and not even acknowledge that it happened.

imno007b14_ESO · March 2020

As I mentioned in another thread (that was closed), some of the abilities not firing issues seem to be related to LoS. I've noticed that abilities often won't fire if the camera is angled a little too far down or up, even if I'm standing directly in front of a target, and I don't recall this being the case before the patch.