Delayed abilities and break free

Altyrann

Same problem here. PC EU. Put simply, pressing buttons doesn't result in anything happening so utterly destroying any enjoyment of doing more than farming boxes in Murkmire right now.

iCaliban

Altyrann wrote: »

Same problem here. PC EU. Put simply, pressing buttons doesn't result in anything happening so utterly destroying any enjoyment of doing more than farming boxes in Murkmire right now.

Never seen input delay like this even in no lag situations

oXI_Viper_IXo

imno007b14_ESO wrote: »

As I mentioned in another thread (that was closed), some of the abilities not firing issues seem to be related to LoS. I've noticed that abilities often won't fire if the camera is angled a little too far down or up, even if I'm standing directly in front of a target, and I don't recall this being the case before the patch.

Except it happens with skills that don't even require a target, they just don't go off.

Fur_like_snow

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L_Nici

It is especially annyoing against templars with Toppling Charge, till you broke free you have eaten 2 Spearspamms already and are basically dead.

heaven13

I haven't even bothered trying any form of PvP since the patch but PvE is a giant mess.

• Wall of Elements - charged magicka, timer starts, but no animation and no visual effects
• Shards - shards has been somewhat buggy since Elsweyr with the animation happening and ground circling closing but no shards actually casting but since U25 it has been 10x worse
• Purifying Light - won't cast, won't cast, won't cast, oh wait, there it goes, even though I said eff it and moved on it my rotation
• Light Attacks - lol, maybe, about half the time they should be going off
• Ultimates - no one needs these, right?
• Movement - wait, you want to MOVE? I get weird 'root' with no animation or visual cue but am just glued to the floor and can't use skills, only light attack, for about a second until the game realizes that why yes, I AM pushing the wasd keys.

I've done very little content since U25 because I am absolutely fed up. It's not engaging or fulfilling to (attempt to) participate in content, particularly harder vet stuff, and have so many things working so unreliably. I've got a vAS+ in about 30 minutes and am dreading it. Luckily, I at least have a great group of friends (who are all experiencing the same issues) but even good friends can't keep you doing stuff you dread forever. If this isn't fixed, sooner rather than later, I can't imagine I will be playing much longer.

ykculnu

Pretty shocked that there hasn't been a single Zos post on any of these threads regarding this issue.

Captain_Slaymore

I'm sure they are aware. Last night, even with the target tabbed and in range, abilities would not fire, ranged attacks especially. Seems to come and go randomly. They said there would be a patch tomorrow, hopefully we get the patch notes before then.

iCaliban

Captain_Slaymore wrote: »

I'm sure they are aware. Last night, even with the target tabbed and in range, abilities would not fire, ranged attacks especially. Seems to come and go randomly. They said there would be a patch tomorrow, hopefully we get the patch notes before then.

Afaik the patch is only aimed at fixing cyrodil crashes

Artorias24

Somehow really feels strange. Pre patch i could easily break a CC and block or Dodge the next incoming attack/ult. Now i eat an ult and execute before i can counter....

Jarndyce

Definitely things are off. Can't mention anything that hasn't already been said. Zos needs to address this.

iCaliban

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/514830/pc-mac-patch-notes-v5-3-5#latest

Nothing in the notes about input lag

Waynerx8

ykculnu wrote: »

Pretty shocked that there hasn't been a single Zos post on any of these threads regarding this issue.

ZOS never respond to things like this, purely because have no clue what they are doing.

olsborg

I fear zos did this on purpose to make 1vXing even harder, they clearly want everyone to run in tightly packed ballgroups or zergs.

sparafucilsarwb17_ESO

The input lag is really horrible on PC EU. I returned to the game after a long break hoping that some of the performance issues were solved after update 25, while some of them certainly are better the input lag has made me stop playing again. I will wait till it's fixed. Too bad I already paid a sub and paid for all the chapters I did not have.

deepseamk20b14_ESO

When on my magsorc, my character will do part of the skill animation then stop and the skill doesn’t fire. Tested it in BG last night. Flat even terrain no obstructions, I couldn’t even place curse and have the time mages wrath wouldn’t fire. Casting a skill after ward took abnormally long time, bad delay. In cyrodiil I found I would “streak in place”, not actually go anywhere. Also crashed within 5 minutes.

Melee seems to be not as bad. My Stamblade and MagDK have had some issues but not to the extent my ranged characters had. Again, last night, I went to fire my spectral bow and I got stuck in the animation but it wouldn’t fire, I had to weapon swap to fix it. Also got stuck in the channeled acceleration animation and have to bar swap, bar swap back and recast.

I’ve also noticed sometimes I run out of stamina when I know I shouldn’t run out. Playing as normal then boom, out of steam after just a few skills. Apparently others having this issue where stem regen go to 0.

There is no counter play to stuns/knockdowns that come from gap closers at the moment. Example: someone from max distance can cast shield charge on me and where I would normally time it to dodge or block, as soon as they cast it, my character becomes frozen. Can’t dodge, can’t block, it’s like the game decided “eh, it’ll probably hit anyways”. I have noticed it happens to other players when I leap on them as well. They can’t react.

Deaths have been Buggy. Last night I had “delayed deaths” where I would be alive, turned a corner to LoS, realize I can’t heal up, then suddenly die. Look at damage recap and it would be something that hit me seconds before I dropped.

I have 300 gb internet and a PC that costs as much as some cars so it’s not on my end. Before this patch there were issues but it was playable for the most part (though cyrodiil lag has always been bad, but BG’s was fine). Whatever the hell they did borked this game.

I’m not mad ZoS, I’m just....disappointed....

iCaliban

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/513685/current-known-issues-update-25-updated-2-25

Not currently listed in known issues.

We really could use acknowledgement that this is unintended and being looked at @ZOS_GinaBruno

Dottzgaming

This issue needs more attention and im glad to see other people start talking about it.

Between the huge ability delays, constant crashes, disconnecting on blocking too frequently, trying to play this game is becoming way more effort than it needs to be.

These are emergency level issues. I know that Cyro / misc crashes are being worked on with today's incremental (we'll have to see if it actually fixes the problems), and disconnecting on blocking is currently being worked on too, which are good signs. but with that being said, this ability delay and skills just not firing needs to be identified and talked about, even just saying "we are aware of this" will go a long way so we know a fix is in the works. This isnt lag. There is something else going on here.

This also isnt just a pvp issue, it effects everything. It definitely feels worse in PvP from my experiences (both BGs and Cyro i feel it equally), but i had a couple times when i was parsing one of my characters the whole parse got screwed up because skills just wouldnt go off. you can see the key being pressed on my skill bar, but nothing happens, and my character just gets "stuck".

I've even had issues where ive gotten locked out of certain skills for minutes at a time. on my mDK, for about 5 minutes, i was able to use every skill except my Ferocious Leap. I could use my more expensive back bar ultimate, all of my skills, but leap would just not go off.

I dont know what is going on (my guess is it has to do with the block changes), but all i know is that the issues we are seeing with ability lag are ruining the flow of combat in game, and it is something that needs to be looked at ASAP.

precambria

TBH it feels much better now since patching this morning, they took bg down for a bit prior to that it was lagging out bad but at the very least it is showing improvement, blocking is more responsive break free IS WORKING at this rate within a month the game might actually be in a better state than it was in terms of performance.

If cyrodil actually becomes playable I would say this all has been worth it.

iCaliban

precambria wrote: »

TBH it feels much better now since patching this morning, they took bg down for a bit prior to that it was lagging out bad but at the very least it is showing improvement, blocking is more responsive break free IS WORKING at this rate within a month the game might actually be in a better state than it was in terms of performance.

If cyrodil actually becomes playable I would say this all has been worth it.

Are you seeing improvements in abilities casting when they should? Block casting ults?

precambria

iCaliban wrote: »

precambria wrote: »

TBH it feels much better now since patching this morning, they took bg down for a bit prior to that it was lagging out bad but at the very least it is showing improvement, blocking is more responsive break free IS WORKING at this rate within a month the game might actually be in a better state than it was in terms of performance.

If cyrodil actually becomes playable I would say this all has been worth it.

Are you seeing improvements in abilities casting when they should? Block casting ults?

Yes considerable improvements in responsiveness of skills and actions, ULTS still can still just not work sometimes, block feels much less glitched you can block cast it drops block when switch bars for a split second. There are some CC which are hitting while in roll dodge, mostly flame clench but it has fully stunned me out of a roll but it's harder to tell since 90% of my times being stunned is from streak right now there is mostly sorcs in bg

Stevie6

Yep, been having lag spikes while in the server 400 to 15000 ms. Even when is sits around 60ms, just hitting lA or any skill nothing works. Smash keys a hundred times and still nothing. Then another lag spike! Feels like I'm moving thru molasses while walking, running, or riding.

1. memory leak
2. Polling Items too frequently
3. Data inputs not being interpreted or acknowledged by the server
4. NEED A ROLL BACK to about 2 years ago when things worked and was fun to play.
5. DID I miss anything?

Sarousse

@iCaliban

I had exactly the same problem this week-end. The pop was 3 2 2 and ping at 80ms.

Then I removed my addons and didn't have anymore problem.

I suspect one addon to be the core source of this problem but I'll make extended testing before telling its name.

It might be a coincidence tho.

I'll report here when my testing will be done.

Sarousse

Ok it wasn't related to this addon.

Just tried without addons again and it's the same problem.

The netcode is totally *** up. I have constantly to mash up buttons during 2-3 seconds for my abilities to fire off as soon as I enter combat in Cyrodiil.

Never had this before the Harrowstorm patch.

@ZOS_GinaBruno are devs aware about this ? The game is unplayable, even in low pop campaigns, with 70 ms ping.

iCaliban

Sarousse wrote: »

@iCaliban

I had exactly the same problem this week-end. The pop was 3 2 2 and ping at 80ms.

Then I removed my addons and didn't have anymore problem.

I suspect one addon to be the core source of this problem but I'll make extended testing before telling its name.

It might be a coincidence tho.

I'll report here when my testing will be done.

Only addon I play with in pvp regularly is action duration reminder. Game is unplayable without it so...

Sarousse

It was this addon. But tried without any addons and still got the problem.

technohic

So this is worse after today's patch? Or we talking what started with the initial patch last week?

Rhorlak_Wulfmare

Definitely feels clunkier since the update

Noxeee

It was fine pre today's patch. Combat in PvE and PvP is clunky/delayed/broken now.

D0PAMINE

Im still having issues with skills not firing off, as well as delays when activating them. Blocking is still not reliable. I'll try to use block and it does input.