Alliance banner bought from Impresario is legion zero banner?

FierceSam · January 2020

Probably easier to do one design then recolour it than do 3 separate designs.

Shame it looks so rank in all 3 colours.

Sandman929 · January 2020

FierceSam wrote: »

Probably easier to do one design then recolour it than do 3 separate designs.

Shame it looks so rank in all 3 colours.

But they have the designs...the banners of all the factions are all over the place in Cyrodiil.

MurderMostFoul · January 2020

Sandman929 wrote: »

Someone else on console has apparently made one getting Emblems from alt accounts and it's the same banner...not an alliance banner, just this same ugly banner with a face and crappy coloring.

Lol, wut?

If that's the case, it's lame AF.

virtus753 · January 2020

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

Everyone please read, the impresario banners are not the full faction banners. The only way to get those is to combined 10 emblems and purchase the license with AP.

I agree that the description of the item in the impresario's inventory might make you believe otherwise, but those are only faction colored banners.

It appears that the banners with faction colors and symbols are acquired as follows:

Standard-Bearer Emotes

Show your colors with the Standard-Bearer emote! This new emote is earned by collecting 10 Standard-Bearer’s Emblems, found within the first Pelinal’s Midyear Boon Box you open each day per account. Once you have 10, you can combine them with a Standard-Bearer’s License (on sale for 50,000 AP) from Predicant Maera to create a Runebox with the emote for that character’s Alliance. Make sure to use it on a character of the Alliance whose banner you want to hold high!

This is not correct.

I bought the AD banner from the Impresario and then made the corresponding runebox, and the runebox says that emote is “already in your collection.” If the emotes were different, I would be able to use the runebox as well.

This is exactly in accordance with other event drops that are available at the Impresario’s as a convenience if you don’t want to farm them or buy them from other players.

anadandy · January 2020

Tatanko wrote: »

I'm far more interested in an Imperial banner myself, but I was also quite disappointed upon seeing the final appearance of these emote banners. They are not particularly attractive, and they have really no connection to their respective alliance outside of similar colors.

I completely agree. I got the "Covenant" standard on my DC PVP healer and was pretty disappointed that it was just the ugly Legion Zero banner in "Covenant Blue"

Donny_Vito · January 2020

This is just the outcome when they make the objectives for a reward too confusing for us mere plebs. Anytime you have to "combine" with another item to get the end result... you're asking for trouble. That is just too much to comprehend.

MurderMostFoul · January 2020

virtus753 wrote: »

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

Everyone please read, the impresario banners are not the full faction banners. The only way to get those is to combined 10 emblems and purchase the license with AP.

I agree that the description of the item in the impresario's inventory might make you believe otherwise, but those are only faction colored banners.

It appears that the banners with faction colors and symbols are acquired as follows:

Standard-Bearer Emotes

Show your colors with the Standard-Bearer emote! This new emote is earned by collecting 10 Standard-Bearer’s Emblems, found within the first Pelinal’s Midyear Boon Box you open each day per account. Once you have 10, you can combine them with a Standard-Bearer’s License (on sale for 50,000 AP) from Predicant Maera to create a Runebox with the emote for that character’s Alliance. Make sure to use it on a character of the Alliance whose banner you want to hold high!

This is not correct.

I bought the AD banner from the Impresario and then made the corresponding runebox, and the runebox says that emote is “already in your collection.” If the emotes were different, I would be able to use the runebox as well.

This is exactly in accordance with other event drops that are available at the Impresario’s as a convenience if you don’t want to farm them or buy them from other players.

So it's a trash emote from both sources, eh? I guess I won't be wasting any tickets at least.

oddbasket · January 2020

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

Everyone please read, the impresario banners are not the full faction banners. The only way to get those is to combined 10 emblems and purchase the license with AP.

I agree that the description of the item in the impresario's inventory might make you believe otherwise, but those are only faction colored banners.

It appears that the banners with faction colors and symbols are acquired as follows:

Standard-Bearer Emotes

Show your colors with the Standard-Bearer emote! This new emote is earned by collecting 10 Standard-Bearer’s Emblems, found within the first Pelinal’s Midyear Boon Box you open each day per account. Once you have 10, you can combine them with a Standard-Bearer’s License (on sale for 50,000 AP) from Predicant Maera to create a Runebox with the emote for that character’s Alliance. Make sure to use it on a character of the Alliance whose banner you want to hold high!

oddbasket wrote: »

The banners are the same, it's only the color is different. I got the covenant one with AP. The motif on the banner looks like the firedrake helmet.

From my reply above, I've said I bought mine with AP, they are no different ones to get.
You either get the 10 emblems and buy with AP, or you use tickets. They are the same.
Once you bought with AP, the one with ticket is redded out and you can no longer purchase it with tickets.

Strike_Maximus · January 2020

Donny_Vito wrote: »

This is just the outcome when they make the objectives for a reward too confusing for us mere plebs. Anytime you have to "combine" with another item to get the end result... you're asking for trouble. That is just too much to comprehend.

The whole combo of items in the past has been fine, it's just something about this event that is not made entirely clear. People where expecting alliance banners with their alliance on them, not recolored legion zero ones. If these banners where previewable and the descriptions made clearer ect there would be fewer issues. They should have never been called "alliance standards" they should be called legion zero alliance banner or something like that and never reffed to as an "alliance standard.
The people came for alliance standards they left with what essentially is a legion zero banner.

edited for spelling

Strike_Maximus · January 2020

SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »

another over-complicated event mess. classic

FierceSam wrote: »

The very definition of both

Rip-off, and

Spectacularly bad management

No one who is spending tickets on these expects them to be anything other than the final, actual banners.

Plus they look really cheap.

Another great ZOS own goal

The event is not a mess and it has nothing to do with bad management, let's not be so dramatic and cynical folks. The event is not overcomplicated. Description of items made players believe they were getting an alliance banner, not a legion zero one, THAT'S THE ISSUE. The banners don't look "cheap" they just don't match their descriptions, a legion zero banner colored for an alliance is not that alliance's "standard" an alliance's standard is the banner with that alliance's logo and colors the ones everyone knows that are all over Cyrodiil, that's what the players were expecting.

max_only · January 2020

Strike_Maximus wrote: »

SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »

another over-complicated event mess. classic

FierceSam wrote: »

The very definition of both

Rip-off, and

Spectacularly bad management

No one who is spending tickets on these expects them to be anything other than the final, actual banners.

Plus they look really cheap.

Another great ZOS own goal

The event is not a mess and it has nothing to do with bad management, let's not be so dramatic and cynical folks. The event is not overcomplicated. Description of items made players believe they were getting an alliance banner, not a legion zero one, THAT'S THE ISSUE. The banners don't look "cheap" they just don't match their descriptions, a legion zero banner colored for an alliance is not that alliance's "standard" an alliance's standard is the banner with that alliance's logo and colors the ones everyone knows that are all over Cyrodiil, that's what the players were expecting.

So even if I get 10 emblems and spend 50k AP it is still just a color coded Legion Zero banner?

That sucks bro.

Nord_Raseri wrote: »

All 3 Alliance banners are the Legion Zero banner, just red, blue, or yellow.(I have all 3)

Smh

Hoolielulu · January 2020

Well my emote doesn't even work so I have double the regrets.

FierceSam · January 2020

Strike_Maximus wrote: »

SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »

another over-complicated event mess. classic

FierceSam wrote: »

The very definition of both

Rip-off, and

Spectacularly bad management

No one who is spending tickets on these expects them to be anything other than the final, actual banners.

Plus they look really cheap.

Another great ZOS own goal

The event is not a mess and it has nothing to do with bad management, let's not be so dramatic and cynical folks. The event is not overcomplicated. Description of items made players believe they were getting an alliance banner, not a legion zero one, THAT'S THE ISSUE. The banners don't look "cheap" they just don't match their descriptions, a legion zero banner colored for an alliance is not that alliance's "standard" an alliance's standard is the banner with that alliance's logo and colors the ones everyone knows that are all over Cyrodiil, that's what the players were expecting.

Well it does feel like bad management when

You have an event to promote PvP but don’t open enough campaigns to satisfy demand, or

Describe a central reward in such a confusing way that almost everyone who gets it will be disappointed because it’s not what they expect it to be.

Because if it were well managed, someone would have addressed both these issues and you’d have fewer pop locked campaigns and loads of players happily playing with their ‘Legion Zero Alliance Banners’.

And while I imagine it might be a challenge to match campaign numbers to demand, it would have been the work of minutes to amend the promo copy for the event to reflect the reality of the banner emotes.

That’s what is so frustrating about this because, once again, ZOS manage to snatch success away from their own grasp.

mb10 · January 2020

Here I was worried that I won’t make the 10 emblems and would only be at 9 but if the final result is that absolutely awful recolour of a banner then I’m not missing out on a thing 😂

max_only · January 2020

So the correct color is red...? eh. Is it at least RED or is it that pale washed out pink?

Dusk_Coven · January 2020

Sandman929 wrote: »

Why is it not just the Alliance banners? You know, with the actual Alliance symbols? Would that have been too much to ask so instead we get these stupid face banners?
Finally something I actually wanted from an event and ZOS fumbles it.

Especially when Legion Zero is Imperial (?) and not associated with any of the alliances. https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Legion_Zero

Strike_Maximus · January 2020

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

Why is it not just the Alliance banners? You know, with the actual Alliance symbols? Would that have been too much to ask so instead we get these stupid face banners?
Finally something I actually wanted from an event and ZOS fumbles it.

Especially when Legion Zero is Imperial (?) and not associated with any of the alliances. https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Legion_Zero

Well while they are imperals, they are imperal deserters working for molag bal so it more molag bal related then anything.

FierceSam · January 2020

Strike_Maximus wrote: »

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

Why is it not just the Alliance banners? You know, with the actual Alliance symbols? Would that have been too much to ask so instead we get these stupid face banners?
Finally something I actually wanted from an event and ZOS fumbles it.

Especially when Legion Zero is Imperial (?) and not associated with any of the alliances. https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Legion_Zero

Well while they are imperals, they are imperal deserters working for molag bal so it more molag bal related then anything.

So not only are you not “proudly waving your Alliance’s banner”, you’re actually waving a banner for Molag Bal?

The hits just keep on coming...

Varana · January 2020

FierceSam wrote: »

Strike_Maximus wrote: »

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

Why is it not just the Alliance banners? You know, with the actual Alliance symbols? Would that have been too much to ask so instead we get these stupid face banners?
Finally something I actually wanted from an event and ZOS fumbles it.

Especially when Legion Zero is Imperial (?) and not associated with any of the alliances. https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Legion_Zero

Well while they are imperals, they are imperal deserters working for molag bal so it more molag bal related then anything.

So not only are you not “proudly waving your Alliance’s banner”, you’re actually waving a banner for Molag Bal?

The hits just keep on coming...

Exactly.

This is really bad design.

anadandy · January 2020

max_only wrote: »

So the correct color is red...? eh. Is it at least RED or is it that pale washed out pink?

Pale washed out pink. "Covenant Blue" is a pale washed out blue as well. Disappointing all around - as someone said above - so much for "proudly waving your Alliance's banner"

Sandman929 · January 2020

Seems like there's not going to be any response regarding the washed out non-Alliance banners, which is pretty much what's expected at this point from ZOS "communication".

It'd be great if there were actual alliance banner emotes at some point, maybe in a future event or (can't believe I'm saying this) crown store. I don't think many people were expecting crappy Imperial banners that are slightly tinted to show some sort of Alliance leaning political stance. Terrible idea, whoever came up with that one.

FierceSam · January 2020

Sandman929 wrote: »

Seems like there's not going to be any response regarding the washed out non-Alliance banners, which is pretty much what's expected at this point from ZOS "communication".

It'd be great if there were actual alliance banner emotes at some point, maybe in a future event or (can't believe I'm saying this) crown store. I don't think many people were expecting crappy Imperial banners that are slightly tinted to show some sort of Alliance leaning political stance. Terrible idea, whoever came up with that one.

So agree. Because it would be quite awesome to see a whole bunch of players marching towards a keep all with flaming Alliance banners flapping.

... then getting splayed with multiple meatbags obv.

essi2 · January 2020

Guess I'm selling the emblems, I wanted an EP banner not a Legion Zero banner...

Why are they referred to as Alliance Banners if they aren't?

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_KaiSchober

Cavedog · January 2020

I was sad to find this out today, but all three "faction" banners are identical except for the color. ...it's pretty disappointing, and it's not a faction banner, it's just that factions color.

*edited, see post below

Fischblut · January 2020

Well my emote doesn't even work so I have double the regrets.

Does it mean that our characters can't use these emotes if they are from different alliance? For example, AD character won't be able to use red and blue banner emotes?

I don't want to waste gold on runeboxes with these emotes if they are locked like this...

Sandman929 · January 2020

Cavedog wrote: »

I was sad to find this out today, but all three "faction" banners are identical except for the color. ...it's pretty disappointing, and it's not a faction banner, it's just that factions color.

....but if you read through this thread, the issue is clarified. We use the lame banner emote purchased for 5 event tickets in combination with 10 of the daily widgets from the event, and it makes a faction banner.

Actually if you read through this thread you'll see that the lame banner emote purchased for 5 event tickets is the same lame banner emote for 10 Standard Bearer Emblems.

xxthir13enxx · January 2020

Sadly I’m no longer surprised by this...

And I won’t be surprised when the new Siege item in next chapter comes out it’ll be used for fishing or some such...

SpacemanSpiff1 · January 2020

essi2 wrote: »

Guess I'm selling the emblems, I wanted an EP banner not a Legion Zero banner...

Why are they referred to as Alliance Banners if they aren't?

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_KaiSchober

that's a good question. does somebody not know what the alliances are? nobody reviewed it before pushing it live?

FierceSam · January 2020

xxthir13enxx wrote: »

Sadly I’m no longer surprised by this...

And I won’t be surprised when the new Siege item in next chapter comes out it’ll be used for fishing or some such...

Dude, don’t diss the Cod War... it was serious.

Siege Fishing... it’s a thing.

Cavedog · January 2020

Sandman929 wrote: »

Cavedog wrote: »

I was sad to find this out today, but all three "faction" banners are identical except for the color. ...it's pretty disappointing, and it's not a faction banner, it's just that factions color.

....but if you read through this thread, the issue is clarified. We use the lame banner emote purchased for 5 event tickets in combination with 10 of the daily widgets from the event, and it makes a faction banner.

Actually if you read through this thread you'll see that the lame banner emote purchased for 5 event tickets is the same lame banner emote for 10 Standard Bearer Emblems.

So, yepper.

I wasn't 100% sure what was going on. So I went and built the emote for a faction using the "permission" that is purchased for 50k AP plus the 10 daily tokens....it is IDENTICAL to the emote you purchase for 5 event tickets. I can no longer purchase the emote I built as well. The emote you build is IDENTICAL to the emote you buy.

So, one more question now though...can a toon display a banner that is a different color than their alliance? ...I'm guessing they can, since the banner doesn't have the alliance emblem on it, it just has the legion zero emblem on it.